Post: #1

Kickstarter link here

Required Salon hit piece on it here

I'm not sure what to think about this. Good for this guy for leveraging kick starter, but I am a little surprised that, given the crowded space, there are people willing to do this.

Not sure if he has any insights, but it does support the notion that there is money on the table that perhaps certain folks on this forum would do well to take advantage of.

Post: #2

Surprised it hasn't been banned.

WIA

Post: #3

Can someone explain to me how Kickstarter is not a scam? Why does the guy need to raise money to write a book? There's a pretty well-established formula for writing and selling a book: first you write it, then you sell it. This is even easier these days with e-books and self-publishing.

But this guy is basically selling the book before he writes it. On top of that, as far as I can tell he says 50% of the book is just shit he's already posted on reddit. What the fuck?

He's raised $16k for this so far. This would be like Roosh making a Kickstarter asking for donations for publishing his "Best of Roosh" e-book.

Honestly this smells like shit. I have no idea who this guy is, but he strikes me as a bullshit artist: here's a guy who's been in the game since only 2010, whose only claim to fame is posting on reddit and who's selling a book he hasn't even written. Sounds like just another "internet game guru" bullshitter to me.

Post: #4

Anita Sarkeesian raised over 150k dollars just to make some retarded youtube videos, so why not?

Post: #5

Google Kickstarter Kobe beef jerky to see a scam that almost made it through Kickstarter.

Post: #6

Shady cat.

How to write a book:

1. Turn on a computer

2. Write it

3. Market it

The End

Post: #7

I thought of doing this months ago.

Guess I shoulda got off my ass....

Post: #8

can someone tell me more about kickstart?

so lets say a project gets funded. what happens to those who gave funds? do I need to give the money back? or give them some type of discount? Whats in it for the person giving money

Post: #9

What guys like this understand and accept is that most dudes are tricks and simps, so just like girls can hustle those dudes, so can guys by giving them "tips" on how to "get" said girls.

Hustle hard Ken.

Post: #10

(06-19-2013 11:38 AM)scorpion Wrote:  Can someone explain to me how Kickstarter is not a scam?

Would you want the government to come in and regulate it?

More power to this guy.

WIA

Post: #11

Send me money!

Goals:

Jim Norton Fan will post a one liner if you send me $1000.

I will post a two to three line funny, witty post for $5000.

I will start a thread for $10,000.

For $100,000 I will post a thread like 2Wycked.

I'll be waiting for your contributions.

Post: #12

(06-19-2013 11:38 AM)scorpion Wrote:  Can someone explain to me how Kickstarter is not a scam? Why does the guy need to raise money to write a book? There's a pretty well-established formula for writing and selling a book: first you write it, then you sell it. This is even easier these days with e-books and self-publishing.

But this guy is basically selling the book before he writes it. On top of that, as far as I can tell he says 50% of the book is just shit he's already posted on reddit. What the fuck?

He's raised $16k for this so far. This would be like Roosh making a Kickstarter asking for donations for publishing his "Best of Roosh" e-book.

Honestly this smells like shit. I have no idea who this guy is, but he strikes me as a bullshit artist: here's a guy who's been in the game since only 2010, whose only claim to fame is posting on reddit and who's selling a book he hasn't even written. Sounds like just another "internet game guru" bullshitter to me.

Agreed, this guy is completely full of shit. Anyone who thinks this book will have good advice is guaranteed already a hopeless loser with women.

Post: #13

Guy found a niche dispensing knowledge for free on reddit and is using it to make money. Someone shoot him.

Post: #14

The vast majority of the pledges are essentially prepurchasing the book.

Kickstarter is good for not only funding an enterprise but also testing the waters.

Post: #15

(06-19-2013 02:44 PM)UgSlayer Wrote:  Guy found a niche dispensing knowledge for free on reddit and is using it to make money. Someone shoot him.

Reddit: a credible source of dating advice

Post: #16

It's a great publicity stunt. He always raised $16,000 and sold several hundred copies of his book.

Now we're talking about it.

Others are talking about it.

More will be talking about it.

If it was a deliberate student, all I can say it: "Well played, sir."

Post: #17

He also sold 10 skype consults at $100 per session.

What is the market rate for those sorts of consults?

Post: #18

(06-19-2013 02:52 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-19-2013 02:44 PM)UgSlayer Wrote:  Guy found a niche dispensing knowledge for free on reddit and is using it to make money. Someone shoot him.

The internet: a credible source of dating advice

Fixed that for you

Post: #19

(06-19-2013 03:02 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  He also sold 10 skype consults at $100 per session.

What is the market rate for those sorts of consults?

I'm sure you could easily get 100 bucks per session if you got your name out there.

I don't use reddit so I don't know what it's all about, but it seems to me that whatever reddit he posts on is sort of like the mASF message boards back in the day. The guy made his name using reddit as a medium, gained a large following, and is benefiting off of that. Successful hustle. I don't understand the hate. Not much different than writing a blog or uploading youtube videos to sell seminars or books, like most guys in the pua industry are doing these days. He just used one of the most visited websites in the world to advertise his shit, whether he did it intentionally from the start or decided that he could make some money off of it after doing it for a while is unknown but I don't care.

People feel they are getting value by donating to his kickstarter, so both parties benefit. Guys on here should be inspired by this sort of entrepreneurial ingenuity, not writing it off as some sort of scam.

Post: #20

Sounds like some people are jealous.

Shit, most of us here have probably written a book's worth of pickup advice, but the market on this forum is so saturated, who'd buy Random Pickup Guide X from Forum Member Y?

Maybe we should all start branching out, find markets that aren't full of pickup vets, and start slinging ebooks at them. POF forums, anyone?

Post: #21

I'd say that the guy outsmarted all of us. He just made 16K and counting.

He's making bank in a market that is already totally played out since 2005/2006 by making it sound really hard to publish a book while in fact you can do it for free.

Post: #22

This market isn't saturated it's more along the lines of barely even touched. I remember a friend who had a online porn site said it was saturated in 1995...

Post: #23

Feminist predictably calls it assault: http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/...ing-women/

Does sound a bit too aggressive to be effective though.

Post: #24

A few comments from the signers of the petition started by the feminist above:

Quote:Andrea W

9 sec ago

Although I believe strongly in freedom of speech, I also believe strongly in human rights. Teaching someone to be dominant over another is assault, rape, and slavery (if not of the body but of the mind). PLEASE don't let all this money which could go to positive good go to a project that promotes violence.

Julia F

21 sec ago

NO ONE NEEDS A HOW TO SEXUAL ASSAULT GUIDE, IT WILL ENSURE MORE SEXUAL ASSAULT.

According to her website " UPDATE: Teenagers all over the country have started signing the petition via SMS, and we've almost reached 30,000 signatures. Keep signing and sharing! "

They likely signed it without reading anything other than the short paragraph Miri posted to distort the author's book on game into a 'sexual assault manual':

Quote: Sex
Pull out your cock and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER. Don’t ask for permission, GRAB HER HAND, and put it right on your dick.

Guess what! That’s sexual assault. “Forcing” her to “rebuff your advances” is sexual assault. “Grabbing her hand” and “putting it right on your dick” unless she’s consented is sexual assault. And while many people do indeed find it arousing when someone desires them, sexual assault is not arousing; it is assault, it is violation of others’ bodies, and it is a crime.

But if the reader goes thru the chapter overview he'll see that this comes after he has fingered the girl while they're both naked. Not only that, but one of the paragraphs before it even describes how " NO! means no"

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/commen...ation_sex/

Post: #25

(06-20-2013 02:29 AM)PoosyWrecker Wrote:  A few comments from the signers of the petition started by the feminist above:

Quote:Andrea W

9 sec ago

Although I believe strongly in freedom of speech, I also believe strongly in human rights. Teaching someone to be dominant over another is assault, rape, and slavery (if not of the body but of the mind). PLEASE don't let all this money which could go to positive good go to a project that promotes violence.

Julia F

21 sec ago

NO ONE NEEDS A HOW TO SEXUAL ASSAULT GUIDE, IT WILL ENSURE MORE SEXUAL ASSAULT.

According to her website " UPDATE: Teenagers all over the country have started signing the petition via SMS, and we've almost reached 30,000 signatures. Keep signing and sharing! "

They likely signed it without reading anything other than the short paragraph Miri posted to distort the author's book on game into a 'sexual assault manual':

Quote: Sex
Pull out your cock and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER. Don’t ask for permission, GRAB HER HAND, and put it right on your dick.

Guess what! That’s sexual assault. “Forcing” her to “rebuff your advances” is sexual assault. “Grabbing her hand” and “putting it right on your dick” unless she’s consented is sexual assault. And while many people do indeed find it arousing when someone desires them, sexual assault is not arousing; it is assault, it is violation of others’ bodies, and it is a crime.

But if the reader goes thru the chapter overview he'll see that this comes after he has fingered the girl while they're both naked. Not only that, but one of the paragraphs before it even describes how " NO! means no"

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/commen...ation_sex/

Looks like I fell for a quote mine. Shame on me.