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Dana Wierzbicki says that she was raped at Disney World. The twenty four year old pet groomer from Chicago posts her claim on the fem-site http://www.xojane.co.uk/it-happened-to-me/disney-rape

Those who have tears, prepare to shed them:



I had heard about the Disney College Program from a few friends that had an amazing time working for the company and thought it would be better than nothing. Add the unlimited access to their theme parks, warm weather, and four extra months to figure out what to do with my life and it sounded pretty ideal.

I was accepted into the program and arrived in mid-August. After a few days of orientation, I started work on Main Street U.S.A. in the Magic Kingdom.

Three weeks into the program, I was raped by one of my co-workers.

I don’t feel a desire to share every detail from that night, but I’ll give you the bare bones: He and I went to a party together, we went back to his apartment later, and I said “no,” but he wouldn’t stop.

For two months I kept everything that happened that night to myself. I told my roommates that things went fine and I had a good night. I didn’t know how to feel about what happened. In the beginning, I told myself it was a misunderstanding; maybe he hadn’t heard me. I blamed myself; I should have yelled louder. I should have pushed harder. I should have punched him and ran out of the room. I always thought that if I was ever raped I would beat the guy up. Does that mean I wasn’t raped?

I tried to talk to him about that night. I thought if we could “work it out,” we could still have some great friendship and I could sweep that one bad night under the rug. I honestly thought it would be easier to befriend my rapist than to deal with everything that comes with a person admitting they were raped.

When I tried talking to him, he said he was too drunk to remember what happened that night. I didn’t believe him, but that was where our conversation ended. After that I still had to see him at work nearly every day, all while being reminded that I was working at The Happiest Place On Earth. I cried a lot in the bathroom and prayed I would get horribly injured (I specified “not fatally”) on the job so I could go home without any further question.

I finally decided to talk to someone after the first time I ran into him outside of work. He showed up at my friend’s Halloween party dressed as the Phantom of the Opera, which made seeing him that much more unnerving. I spent the rest of the night watching him hit on girls, worrying, and wondering whether or not I should tell my co-workers what happened.

I made an appointment to see one of the counselors in Disney’s Employee Assistance Program. I tried to be optimistic. Of course they’ll listen to me. It’s Disney, a company built on childhood innocence and happiness. Wouldn’t they want to fire an accused rapist immediately? (Spoiler Alert: No.)...

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I recounted everything that happened that night while the counselor stayed silent and seemed at least mildly sympathetic. When I told her we had been drinking, her face changed from “concerned” to “you made a mistake.” Still, I told her, I said "no" the entire time and he never listened.

The first thing she said to me was “Well, now you know not to be hanging around boys in the middle of the night. You know what they want.”

Take a few seconds and re-read that. Now let’s unpack it.

A certified counselor was insinuating that it was my fault that my coworker decided to rape me -- as if I should have known better than to interact with any man after dark. Not only that, but she was advising me to approach every interaction with a man as if he is a potential rapist, including every man that works at Disney World. If I react to a man with anything less than hostility after sundown, whatever happens is my fault.

I told her that “no” means “no” whether it’s day or night. That was apparently too radical an idea for her, as she said nothing in reply. She continued to make excuses for my rapist. She asked where he was from and I told her, “France.” She remarked that “cultural differences” were probably part of the problem, telling me that the French have a “different view of love” than we Americans do.

It was at that point that I completely let go of any hope that this woman would help me.

Still, I told her that I was worried for the girls he was hitting on and didn’t know what to do. She apparently took that to mean I was jealous that I wasn’t getting his attention, because she told me to show up at the next party looking hot and make him jealous.

“You’re a pretty girl. I’m sure you get all the boys.”

I was stunned. Why on earth would I want to make my rapist feel jealous? That sounds like it would make my rapist angry and want to assert his dominance over me and the situation in a sexual way. And if I followed that advice and he raped me again, they would probably just tell me I should have known better than to dress so sexy around him. I stayed silent and took a card with our next appointment written down. I never showed up, and instead filed a complaint against her...

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and finally:


Over the next few days, I had a breakdown that led to me telling my parents what happened in a frantic, panic attack-induced phone call at three in the morning. They encouraged me to tell the company what happened and said they would fly me home the moment I said I wanted to leave. I ultimately decided to stay another week to report the assault and get all my things together.

It was good that I gave myself a week to get the situation straightened out, because it was impossible to find out where to report a sexual assault within the company. There was no information about how to report a sexual assault in the college program, nor any resources for who to contact.

I tried calling every department that sounded like they might deal with sexual assault, but ended up in an endless loop of transferred calls until I finally gave up. I went to the front desk of my apartment complex in search of an answer. The look on the guy’s face when I arrived and asked “Hi, do you know where I go to report a rape?” told me he had absolutely no idea. He gave me the number for department I already called. Eventually I had to ask one of my managers, and thankfully she knew who to contact.

I made an appointment to meet with Cheri in Employee Relations. When I got to her office, I wrote down my statement recounting everything that happened the night of the assault and waited to be called in. Unfortunately, she handled the situation even worse than the counselor had.

“You were drinking?”

Yes, I’m over twenty-one. That is legal.

"Why didn't you scream? If his roommates were home, they would have heard you."

Thank you for your brilliant insight. I haven’t beaten myself up enough for that already.

"Why didn't you push him off you? You said he wasn't that big."

I froze. The rape took me a little by surprise.

"Why did it take you this long to report the assault? Are you sure you're not reporting this as a rape because you wanted him to be your boyfriend and he said no?"

… Fuck you.

"Now what I don't understand is why you didn't call the police first."

Because of literally everything you’re saying to me right now.

Those were the things I thought, because I was crying too hard to answer her in the moment. I was told they would still carry out an investigation, but I had little hope anything would come of it. I left her office and immediately booked my flight home.

About a week after I got home, I received a letter that said my complaint had been “noted” in the counselor’s file. I decided to make a follow-up call to Employee Relations and get an update on my investigation. I was told my case was closed, but that they were not able to tell me what actions they had taken. I immediately contacted one of my co-workers asking if he had recently seen my rapist at work. He told me, “I saw him yesterday. He was fine.”

I’m still floored by how unsupportive Disney was during every step of that process. This is a company with tens of thousands of people working for them just in Orlando, including thousands of college-aged adults living on their premises with very little supervision.

There is no information on how to report a sexual assault and seemingly no one competent enough to handle the situation when someone figures out how. To be honest, I feel more violated by the way Disney treated me than I feel from being raped, and I’m worried for every other person that has been in my situation.

These past nine months have been incredibly difficult; “Disney” is not an easy name to escape, along with constant reminders of the time I spent there. However after all this time, I’ve managed to turn all of the bullshit in this situation into an immense amount of self-confidence and self-love that I have never felt before.

It’s difficult to ask every person that reads this article to stop supporting a company that is so pervasive in pop culture (though be my guest, as they say). Nevertheless, I have a feeling that with enough publicity over how poorly their company handles sexual assault accusations, Disney might actually do something proactive about it.

So if you would, share this article wherever your online presence may be. We’ll see what happens.

Ok Dana I’ll spread the word

By the way, in her “xojane profile” Dana describes herself as “a unicorn goddess” who loves cats.


Although Diana states that she was over twenty one years old at the time, she has seen fit to highlight her post with a rather misleading photo of a young child, under the title: “I Was Raped at Disney World And Nobody Cared”

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It's interesting that she goes to see the counselor with the assumption that all it should take is her word to ruin a man's life.

Post: #5

Cheri in Employee Relations asked her very legitimate questions, and if this had made it to the legal system, she'd have to answer every one of those questions multiple times. And why did she expect there to be a specific policy on how to report sexual assault, as opposed to simply a procedure for reporting any incident? I know that there isn't really "typical" behavior for an assault victim, but in her case, wanting to discuss, and "work it out" with her accused attacker makes it hard to take action against the young man.

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The women in these rape stories always conveniently leave out the part about how they came to wind up naked and alone in bed with the guy if they had no intention of having sex with him.

It's really amazing how they refuse to accept any responsibility for their decisions. No one forced her to get drunk with a guy she hardly knew. No one forced her to go back to his room. No one forced her to get in bed with him. No one forced her to undress. Why would she do all these things if she had no intention of having sex? Is she fucking retarded? Does she get off on leading men on and then denying them sex at the last second?

It's like if I walked into a bank with a mask and a gun and just stood around for awhile, then acted indignant when the cops came and arrested me. "I wasn't going to actually rob the bank," I would explain. "I was just thinking about doing it."

I mean look at this shit:

Quote:A certified counselor was insinuating that it was my fault that my coworker decided to rape me -- as if I should have known better than to interact with any man after dark.

No, you fucking idiot, she isn't telling you not to interact with men after dark, she's telling you not to get shitfaced drunk and jump naked into bed with a man you hardly know if you don't want to have sex with him.

Is that really such a difficult concept for women to understand?

The sheer refusal to take the most basic responsibility for their personal well-being is truly flabbergasting. Like children, they simply want to live in a cocoon of perfect safety where they are free to indulge in all their narcissistic, self-aggrandizing fantasies with zero accountability.

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No, let's really unpack this.

If I'm hanging out with my friend and she takes interest in my wallet, thinks its cool and wants to have a look and I say "no, you can't" as I hand it to her, at which point she looks it over and hands it back after five minutes with all the cash still inside it, have I been robbed?

I'm really confused by all these women who weren't sure if they were raped at first.

If you gotta ask, was I raped, you probably weren't.
If you think that a clarifying conversation will make it all better, you weren't raped.

Sure, someone may have taken advantage of your vulnerabilities.
Sure, someone may have been ungracious in bed.

But if you had sex with someone and they were able to remove your clothing, put their penis in your vagina and vigorously pleasure themselves with your body, the odds of them not leaving bruises and cuts in the process of overpowering you is unlikely.

Personally, I make a huge point out of confirming interest in continuing before escalating sexually if that escalation involves anything that could be "considered rape" later.

But the truth of the matter is that girls say "no" all the time and they engage in physical behaviour seconds later that says "yes."

Personally, this pisses me off because it gives women the justification to claim that they were raped ("I said no"), but it is a reality in a world were adults drink together before "hanging out."

No, this girl wasn't raped. She was just pissed that the dude wasn't interested in anything more from her than one-time sex. If he'd cooked her breakfast in the morning, scorned all other women going forward and began to fulfill the duties of dear boyfriend, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

She's just ashamed that she didn't get good value for her sexual currency.

If I started bitching about being mugged two months after the fact, people would be suspicious of my stupid story as well.

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I am not really sure why she is contacting disney instead of the police, the rape didn't happen at work, and was not at a work related event.

I am not unsympathetic but she went about this all wrong: call the cops, get a rape kit

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(06-17-2013 05:42 PM)master_thespian Wrote:  I am not really sure why she is contacting disney instead of the police, the rape didn't happen at work, and was not at a work related event.

I am not unsympathetic but she went about this all wrong: call the cops, get a rape kit

I think because they live in Disney-provided housing also, so it occurred on Disney property.

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(06-17-2013 05:42 PM)master_thespian Wrote:  I am not really sure why she is contacting disney instead of the police, the rape didn't happen at work, and was not at a work related event.

I am not unsympathetic but she went about this all wrong: call the cops, get a rape kit

Also take pictures of all injuries. It's not just rape, after all; its sexual assault.

Surely there must be some evidence from when he overpowered you and forced you to have sex against your will, right?

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(06-17-2013 05:16 PM)His Imperial Majesty Wrote:  "Why did it take you this long to report the assault? Are you sure you're not reporting this as a rape because you wanted him to be your boyfriend and he said no?"

… Fuck you.

By far my favourite part. It's really genius on her part: she includes a question that is pure logic which she has no fucking answer for, and an unnecessary/inflammatory question from the counsellor. She responds "Fuck you" to the combined two sentences even though it only addresses the second sentence.

Every day it takes to report it should cut its reliability in half. Which means after 2 months.... less than one in a billion chance it happened. Seems fair.

Seriously, what's her response to "Why did it take you so long"? There's no logical reason. People don't report thefts, car accidents, any kind of criminal acts months after the fact....

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(06-17-2013 05:41 PM)Suits Wrote:  If you gotta ask, was I raped, you probably weren't.

This. End of discussion. Case closed.

I'll say one thing, no man that has been pinned down and fucked in the ass in a prison shower has any question about whether he was raped.

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I always thought that if I was ever raped I would beat the guy up. Does that mean I wasn’t raped?


Why do these broads have this belief that they can kick a guys ass? Do they not realize the average man can beat the living shit out of them if he wanted?

You see it a lot in comments. "Oh, I would have kicked his ass." "I will beat any guy's ass that looks at me." etc. etc.

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(06-17-2013 05:53 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-17-2013 05:41 PM)Suits Wrote:  If you gotta ask, was I raped, you probably weren't.

This. End of discussion. Case closed.

I'll say one thing, no man that has been pinned down and fucked in the ass in a prison shower has any question about whether he was raped.

As a man who is the victim of one rape attempt (yes, she attempted to hold me down and have her way with me), poor bedroom manners that feminists would define as rape (she stuck her finger in my ass and wouldn't remove it when I said "no;" I had to physically defend my ass-ginity), and one sexual assault (a old man tailor got handsy with me in a fitting room; I had to physically remove his hands from my penis and balls because he did not respond to my verbal commands), I can tell you that I was immediately certain in all three cases that my physical body was being violated in a way that I did not appreciate.

I immediately issued verbal commands demanding that my preferences be respected and followed them up with defending myself physically.

None of this required any special "female self-defense" training. In all three cases, my reaction was instinctive.

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lol this site is full of bullshit

http://www.xojane.co.uk/sex/5-things-to-...-his-dicks

Post: #16

I read this as, "I said no, but then I let him have sex with me."

Post: #17

Classic example of buyer's remorse. Move it along folks nothing to see here.

Post: #18

Cheri was just being nice in saying that "French men have different views on love" when she meant "French men have heard that all American girls are sluts".

Post: #19

Of course she wasn't raped,. Just a standard pump and dump.

She even told all her friends the next day that she had had a great time.

She says at the start: “I don’t feel a desire to share every detail from that night, but I’ll give you the bare bones”

I suspect two of the things she’s leaving out are 1) she stayed at his all night 2) he used a condom.

After the event she still wanted to have a “friendship” with this guy.

He is not interested and blows her off.

The hamster begins to do its thing but is still in a low gear because she still sees him every day and still has some hope that in time, he might give her another try.

Then after being ignored for two months she sees him at a party.
She sits there all night just watching him laughing and joking with other chicks.

Slowly the hamster starts to spin faster and faster. Until bingo! I WAS RAPED!! Two moths ago!

She still doesn’t call the police though. If you read between the lines, she just wants to get him sacked. Coz this guy needs to be punished not because he raped her but because every time she sees him shes reminded of what a slut she is.


On a serious note: This chick is dangerous to every guy she meets. Unfortunately the next guy she tries to punish with a false rape accusation, will be up against an experienced bitch. Worse still, because this case didn’t go to the police, no record was made.

With any luck her next boyfriend will google her name and find this post.

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She should have chosen a less misleading title. Raped at Disney World sounds like the guy in the Goofy suit cornered her in the Magic Kingdom and had his way with her. What if fact happened was she had a drunken hookup that she regretted while working for Disney.

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She basically screwed herself over by publishing this story online and to top it off on a sad excuse for a website like xojane. Her only reason for putting this story online was to get sympathy and validation for her foolish actions, which she may very well get on many hamster fueled sites such as xojane and jezebel. However, anyone with the patience and eye to carefully re-read the article a 2nd time with a dose of common sense will see she's full of it. With that being said I'm bookmarking this thread on my phone so that in the future anytime anytime I hear someone preaching about rape statistics, crying about female oppression, or spewing claims of rape that I believe to be false I'll show them this thread and watch as the hamster goes flying.

Post: #22

She probably looks like one of the wicked step sisters. Uglies don't get raped.


   

Post: #23

(06-17-2013 06:28 PM)Hades Wrote:  Cheri was just being nice in saying that "French men have different views on love" when she meant "French men have heard that all American girls are sluts".

Yep, basically every non American guy in the world thinks all american girls are sluts.

Post: #24

Definitely an instance of cultural misunderstanding. Let it be a warning to all French men - sometimes, somehow, American women misunderstand consensual sex as rape...

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(06-17-2013 07:32 PM)liberman Wrote:  

(06-17-2013 06:28 PM)Hades Wrote:  Cheri was just being nice in saying that "French men have different views on love" when she meant "French men have heard that all American girls are sluts".

Yep, basically every non American guy in the world thinks all american girls are sluts.

I wonder why...