Post: #1

To what degree do you guys think your job, and specifically your work environment and attire make an impression on women ?


I will present my situation as a template and maybe you guys can post yours.


I work in oil and gas in northern Alberta, they pay is more than I could get anywhere else but basically I always look like shit. Now when I go into cities, I see guys who work at cell phone stores in the mall looking pretty sharp in a shirt and tie. I cant help but think they are better "suited" to picking up despite making less money.

Women are superficial so the image is very important. Lately I have been considering transitioning into a sales role in an urban center for 2 reasons

1) I can dress well everyday

2) I think PUA is selling. Whereby a good PUA will also be a good Salesman. Salesmen are always talking and interacting with people, conversing and projecting image.

Post: #2

My work is almost entirely male dominated, the way it should be.

Due to my work environment being male oriented, their isn't much chance to game at work. Sure theres some females here and there that we end up interacting with, but none are that special and I don't shit where I sleep. However, a good percentage of the guys I work with are quasi red pill. I have learned many things about game from interacting with the older more experienced guys. The line of work calls for some limited travel, but more importantly gives me tons of interesting stories to talk about. Working out is also included in my daily work duties, so I get paid to stay in shape.

We wear uniforms to work, uniforms that always gain a lot of attention wherever we go. Most of that is errands on the way to and back from work. Post work grocery shopping is money.

The line of work itself is a big DHV. It is rare for a woman to not be impressed and ask follow up information about it. I then hit them with a few select stories, and proceed to game.

I also videotape some of the jobs we do with a Gopro or Contour camera, that makes for easy bait to get them back to my place to watch the videos.

Overall, my line of work increases my attractiveness level and definitely puts certain girls on easy mode (One specifically told me the initial reason she banged me was because of it), but solid game is still required.

Post: #3

Biggest lie ever told.

That you need money, you need to look like money, in order to fuck bitches.

You don't.

Now has my suit wearing gotten me some pussy that I might not have gotten otherwise? Possibly. But I don't spend my time ironing a 3 button jacket into a 3 roll 2 because I might impress some random chick @ seminar or conference. I do it cause I need to look right to talk to clients, colleagues, opposing counsel, and judges. The guys @ the top of the pecking order, the super rich clients, they don't wear suits. They wear whatever the fuck they want to.

In the world I'm in, where every dude is rocking a suit, the women flitting around the scene get more charged up when then damn UPS dude drops off a package, or the water cooler guy changes out the Ozarka. Real talk.

And the Verizon rep in the loud tie and too big dress shirt with the name tag isn't getting pussy cause he's "business casual".

WIA

Post: #4

Bro, this is a non-issue. If you feel under-dressed, suit up. But to answer your question, yes my pick-up improved but not for the reasons you laid out.

The biggest improvement is money. I can buy girls shit. Sushi aint cheap. Drinks for her and her cockblock GF are not cheap. I don't spend time worrying about a 20$ cover charge. I can slip a bouncer a 50 for getting me in past the line when I am rolling through late. I can park at valet w/out tripping out about the 8 dollar charge. That type of stuff. Lets you not sweat the small stuff which translates into big "game improvements".

The suit is ancilliary- because yes, "power clothing" conveys status- but the key underlying determinate in my improved success is increased cashflow. If I was broke, rolling around in a suit wouldn't solve anything.

Edit- I knew a mechanic that used to mack mad women. He had a T-shirt w/his company logo and used to swoop mid 20 year olds. Its all how you swag it.

Post: #5

(06-08-2013 10:16 AM)DVY Wrote:  Bro, this is a non-issue. If you feel under-dressed, suit up. But to answer your question, yes my pick-up improved but not for the reasons you laid out.

The biggest improvement is money. I can buy girls shit. Sushi aint cheap. Drinks for her and her cockblock GF are not cheap. I don't spend time worrying about a 20$ cover charge. I can slip a bouncer a 50 for getting me in past the line when I am rolling through late. I can park at valet w/out tripping out about the 8 dollar charge. That type of stuff. Lets you not sweat the small stuff which translates into big "game improvements".

The suit is ancilliary- because yes, "power clothing" conveys status- but the key underlying determinate in my improved success is increased cashflow. If I was broke, rolling around in a suit wouldn't solve anything.

Edit- I knew a mechanic that used to mack mad women. He had a T-shirt w/his company logo and used to swoop mid 20 year olds. Its all how you swag it.

Company logo?

Post: #6

My career has gotten me laid a lot. That said, I know a lot of people with the same career track with eternally dry cocks.

Post: #7

(06-08-2013 12:36 AM)T5_Income Wrote:  Women are superficial

Superficiality stops where your dick begins. If they like it, they don't give a flying fuck what you do or don't have, as long as they have you.

Post: #8

When I was a little kid, I saw a waiter in a very nice uniform working in a fancy restaurant. I told my dad, I wanted to be like him.

He knew I said that because I just looked at what he was wearing as a kid.

now, how old are you?

Post: #9

Listen to WestIndianArchie.

If you're the dirty, sweaty manual labor guy, *you're* the guy the office girls are fantasising about lol!

Post: #10

VIP Hosting = more pussy than you know what to do with.

Suited of course, but in the past I did construction, UPS, just about every damn job imaginable and I've always pulled.

Work with what you got. Make $ bro, don't trip about what a chick thinks.

Post: #11

(06-11-2013 12:01 AM)RichieP Wrote:  Listen to WestIndianArchie.

If you're the dirty, sweaty manual labor guy, *you're* the guy the office girls are fantasising about lol!

Yeah, but the sweaty, manual labor girl at the office is fantasizing about me, the guy in the suit.

Oh, wait...

Post: #12

(06-11-2013 12:06 AM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  VIP Hosting = more pussy than you know what to do with.

Suited of course, but in the past I did construction, UPS, just about every damn job imaginable and I've always pulled.

Work with what you got. Make $ bro, don't trip about what a chick thinks.

You based in Hollywood?

Post: #13

Agreed. Money is ultimately more important. As the Chinese say, " to be rich is glorius"

Post: #14

clothing buyer at a large multinational retailer.

paid to attend fashion shows in europe / negotiate contracts with suppliers in asia.

probably above average in terms of a career that presents opportunities to pick up.

Post: #15

My career helps a lot. Then again, I live in a place were the saying for ladies is that "the odds are good, but the goods are odd." So being a stable lawyer among criminals, runaways, fishermen and roughnecks helps out quite a bit.

As people have mentioned before, being the guy who sticks out is good.

Post: #16

(06-08-2013 12:36 AM)T5_Income Wrote:  To what degree do you guys think your job, and specifically your work environment and attire make an impression on women ?


I will present my situation as a template and maybe you guys can post yours.


I work in oil and gas in northern Alberta, they pay is more than I could get anywhere else but basically I always look like shit. Now when I go into cities, I see guys who work at cell phone stores in the mall looking pretty sharp in a shirt and tie. I cant help but think they are better "suited" to picking up despite making less money.

Women are superficial so the image is very important. Lately I have been considering transitioning into a sales role in an urban center for 2 reasons

1) I can dress well everyday

2) I think PUA is selling. Whereby a good PUA will also be a good Salesman. Salesmen are always talking and interacting with people, conversing and projecting image.

I feel your pain man, we spend all of time in coveralls getting covered in mud, bitumen and all kinds of other shit then go home with dirt under our finger nails and grease all over our hands. It would be nice to work in a cleaner environment and wear nice clothes to work everyday, but you don't want to be working for $15 selling phones at the mall. Work for awhile longer in the oil patch, save up some fat cash then if you want, go back to school or see if your company has an office gig you can do in downtown Edmonton or especially Calgary. Or you can do what I do and work seasonally and fuck off to some nice place wherever you want and you can dress as you want, no body in the new city has to know that you're a blue collar dirt bag, like me. The guy at the mall wearing a pink shirt slanging Iphones probably only gets two weeks off per year and likely can't afford to travel anyway.

Actually what I think is an even bigger issue and I was speaking to one of the RVF members in Edmonton about this last weekend is this: we spend the majority of our time working with a bunch of rough, uneducated red neck tradesmen and the women on these sites aren't much better. Then we have a few days off and we drive or fly to a nice city but we have a hard time adjusting to the new environment and end up speaking to people as if they're a welder or pipe fitter, every second word is fuck and it can be hard to engage in conversation with a "normal girl".

I just spent the past seven months around normal, educated, well traveled people, now I"m back on site and its time to readjust. Guys who've been to prison or spend long times away from home in the military can probably relate.

Post: #17

That is definitely a good point in regards to associating with the people up here in the Oil Patch. They say you can judge a person by the company they carry and I can say I am fearful of the daily conversations with these roughnecks trickling into my sub-conscious. I sometimes talk to my inner self and stay focused to not get caught up as it seems 90% of the people here make 100k but 90% don;t even have 10k saved up or worse are in debt.

I was glad to here the is a fellow RVF member who is focused and travels and takes advantage of the money up here rather then succumbing to the trap of monthly payments of lifted diesel trucks.

It doesn't take much savings to fund a good lifestyle, especailly in cheap places like BKK.

For example $50,000 invested i CHB.TO would provide you with $262 per month for doing absolutely nothing.

http://ca.ishares.com/product_info/fund/...ew/CHB.htm


$262 isn't much here, but It can pay for a modest bachelor in A suburb of BKK, or save up $150,000 and then you are earning almost $800 a month for doing NOTHING.

Basically that is my goal of coming up here.

Post: #18

Your job doesn't matter, your ability to tell a story does.

Guys who can't paint a verbal picture in my line of work come off as a khaki short wearing park ranger, put the same job in my hands and I'm an exotic traveler that faces death and danger at every turn.

Most women buy into stereotypes, link your stories and work to the positive ones and it doesn't matter what you do.

OP for example Girl says "What do you do?" "I work in oil and gas" Oh no you don't, this is your job: "I travel all over Alberta trying not to get electrocuted, blown up or set on fire"

Post: #19

I agree with the other posts. It is about how you tell the girl what your job is rather than what you actually do.

I'm a lifeguard. I've also been a bartender. Obviously they aren't the best paid job but I can use it to get a girl interested.

Post: #20

I'm doing (non-paying) creative stuff now, barely living off investments. Women are very interested when I say I make films, even though I qualify it right from the start that it's "micro" budget.

If I hade a miserable 7-10k to make a feature so I could pay cast and crew $50 per day each, with $100 per day for DOP and sound, they would practically be throwing panties at me. And I'm old!

They're just so totally controlled by their vanity that the idea of being in films overrides all their YoungTallCool seeking programming. If they are being paid, it legitimizes it for them so they can feel "professional" and be sluts at the same time.

Post: #21

(06-11-2013 12:08 AM)CaP7 Wrote:  

(06-11-2013 12:01 AM)RichieP Wrote:  Listen to WestIndianArchie.

If you're the dirty, sweaty manual labor guy, *you're* the guy the office girls are fantasising about lol!

Yeah, but the sweaty, manual labor girl at the office is fantasizing about me, the guy in the suit.

Oh, wait...

It is about contrast. My cute taqueria waitress game is unfadeable.

Office girls want that muscular/doing shit/primal alpha thing - for a quick run into the supply office

Blue collar chick working a service job, would like nothing better than a decent looking suit to come into her life and make shit much easier for her.

Put either bitch in heels and a mini-skirt @ a club, and the office-alpha and the mechanic lion get turned into no-name chodes.

That is the game.

WIA