Pretty intense weekend:

Lost my car/house/work keys, blacked out Wednesday night at bars, main girl got a little feisty at a bar, put her in check the next morning, never to do that again. (First time it happened)

2 of my boys in 6+ year relationships broke up with their girls.

Bro 1 was engaged, found out she was cheating, he did some digging, called her out, she admitted it, moved out, started dating another dude right after. Girls are so fucking shady.

Thing is they just got way too comfy, lived together, been together way too long. I always thought they were a great couple, but just shows you, you never know.

I did tell him he avoided a horrible investment, divorce, alimony, and a headache. Which he completely agreed, I could tell he had some red pill insights post mortem.

Bro 2 was a long distance relationship, wasn't engaged, he found some convos of her bff's boyfriends friend texting his girl. Called her on it "he's just a friend" routine, he dumped her.

Good move but he tried coming back, to which she said "I don't see a future of us anymore" huge red flag to me. The poor guy is blaming himself for not treating her well, taking her out and maintaining their relationship.

I echoed the same reasoning I did with Bro 1, but he's pretty bummed, I can't get to him. I warned him not to get back with her, it wont ever be the same, and she's thirsty for attention.

I also told him no contact rule, she's being shady, and I'd be she's fucked or going to fuck that dude....then run back to comfort.

I straight told him....do you want to be a provider and be used or a be a lover?

I also found this weekend, the girl I dropped a red pill nuked on has a boyfriend.....whose stationed in a different country. I knew there was something suspect with her heading out there, I just laughed when her best friend told me about it, and said "so I fucked a girl who had a BF" she said "all you did was sleep in a bed with her" (referring to the first night me and her hungout) Apparently her BFF doesn't know we fucked, so I stayed silent after that.

Once again funny how shady girls can be. I always say - girls will always be single for the right guy to come around. (Whether to fuck or lock down).


Also I'm having a scare:

I'm scared I might of caught something from that raunchy Tinder girl last week, I got a few zit like things on the base of shaft, I'm tripping hard.

Headed to urgent care to get it checked out, I also found a tiny lump on the right side of my groin where my leg joins, I don't know if it's scar tissues or something else.

Kaotic i have had similar bumps but they usually disappear after a couple of days. Wait a day or 2 then check it out.

On another note i went clubbing yesterday. Approached and made out with 1 girl. Petit little thing but with short hair which sucks. A lot of progress from having a severe case of approach anxiety and over thinking

Got investigated by my girlfriend about my nocturnal escapades.

My girlfriend leaves for 3 days. I am at the hotel with my mistress (day 1, 11:45 PM), I get a text: "Honey where are you?" to which I respond "Home, doing some work."
And I get the dreaded response: "I am home and you are not here! Don't lie to me!" Oops. Gotta be quick to game on this one.

I explained that our recent fights wanted to make me try something different and go away for a while, but not to worry, I won't cheat (shhhh!). I said that I was at a local hotel in Bangkok, 30km from there, and I don't know the name because I asked "cheap hotel" to a taxi driver. She seems skeptical and asks for pictures of the hotel room. My mistress is sleeping in the bed. I make her move out and take pictures of the room with only my belongings in view. I accidentally find out that a picture where we see her handbag is being transferred. I quickly remove the battery of the phone to interrupt the transfer. I triple-check all pictures and send it to her. She seems more relaxed, and tells me, "tomorrow morning I have questions for you. And you won't like me if you answer wrong".

Anyway I come home and apologize for being away for too long (and hide the fact that I banged 3 girls that day). Cute words did the trick. Problem solved.

Don't be intimidated by investigations.

(11-29-2014 08:17 AM)KC4 Wrote:  Kaotic i have had similar bumps but they usually disappear after a couple of days. Wait a day or 2 then check it out.

They looked like whiteheads, went to urgent care doc checked it out, said it didn't look like herpes or molloscum.

Did a swab culture, he'll find out in a few days, until then he gave me a 7 day prescription for Valtrex. I'm praying it's not some STD like herpes.

Let's hope for the best brother ^^

Rolling dolo for the first time tonight in ny. Any quick advice from seasoned players for a first timer?

Tinder chick with a fucking stripper body is dtf. Unfortunately, she's 18. I'm 27.

I've never gone down that low. It's honestly something that I would keep from my friends. That's how embarrassed I feel.

I know she's legal but fuck. Anything ending in the word "teen" is just...it doesn't sit right with me.

I don't know what to do.

So A professional client asks me a non professional question about dating.

Typical professional chick is dating blue collar dude.
He doesn't want to commit.

The twist here isn't that he's some proletarian player, he's actually a bit introverted, but emotional. According to her, he makes love to her. Her typical cock is the typical corporate macho man. So she actually appreciates the tenderness.

So she continues to bag on his lack of sexual prowess, his lack of academic paper.

But she's hung up on this guy because he doesn't see a future with her.

Even though intellectually she agrees, and all of her hater friends agree, she's like WHY?

WHY DOESN'T HE LOVE ME?


This guy isn't running game, just being his honest authentic self, but this "catch" who between the lines hates this guy is totally his play thing.

WIA

(11-30-2014 02:56 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Tinder chick with a fucking stripper body is dtf. Unfortunately, she's 18. I'm 27.

I've never gone down that low. It's honestly something that I would keep from my friends. That's how embarrassed I feel.

I know she's legal but fuck. Anything ending in the word "teen" is just...it doesn't sit right with me.

I don't know what to do.

I'm 28 and I have fucked 18 and 19 year olds in the past year and I would surely want to do it again when I'm 38, 48 or 58.

(11-30-2014 04:03 PM)LouEvilSlugger Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 02:56 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Tinder chick with a fucking stripper body is dtf. Unfortunately, she's 18. I'm 27.

I've never gone down that low. It's honestly something that I would keep from my friends. That's how embarrassed I feel.

I know she's legal but fuck. Anything ending in the word "teen" is just...it doesn't sit right with me.

I don't know what to do.

I'm 28 and I have fucked 18 and 19 year olds in the past year and I would surely want to do it again when I'm 38, 48 or 58.

Yeah. I don't judge anyone else who bangs outside of their age gap. Especially now when cougars are celebrated in society but if it's an older man/younger woman he's a pervert.

And when I was that age, I was always Mr. Friendzone. Now that I've come into my own and have a working knowledge of game, I can, if I choose to, go on a revenge tour and bang younger girls who didn't give me the time of day when I was their age. It is a very tempting offer.

I just can't shake the fact that it's shooting fish in a barrel. Firstly, she's the aggressor and I'm running don't fuck it up game, but if I take it up a notch to running actual, focused game...well then, game over.

Part of me can't shake the feeling that I'm manipulating this girl. I'm trying hard to shake it. I told one of my friends in confidence about this situation and he questioned my sexuality.

Really trying to find a way to do this and be alright with it mentally.

(11-30-2014 02:56 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Tinder chick with a fucking stripper body is dtf. Unfortunately, she's 18. I'm 27.

I've never gone down that low. It's honestly something that I would keep from my friends. That's how embarrassed I feel.

I know she's legal but fuck. Anything ending in the word "teen" is just...it doesn't sit right with me.

I don't know what to do.

Seriously? Mate, get on that. Worry about your morals later.

(11-30-2014 02:56 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Tinder chick with a fucking stripper body is dtf. Unfortunately Fortunately, she's 18. I'm 27.

...

I know she's legal but fuck. Anything ending in the word "teen" is just...it doesn't sit right with me.

I don't know what how I should go about this

There we go.

(11-30-2014 04:37 PM)Mister X Wrote:  ...

I just can't shake the fact that it's shooting fish in a barrel. Firstly, she's the aggressor and I'm running don't fuck it up game, but if I take it up a notch to running actual, focused game...well then, game over.

Part of me can't shake the feeling that I'm manipulating this girl. I'm trying hard to shake it. I told one of my friends in confidence about this situation and he questioned my sexuality.

Really trying to find a way to do this and be alright with it mentally.

You're going to voluntarily turn down some 18 year old pussy - which is, might I add, an opportunity that many men your age wish they could have - just because of what other people might think of you? Like your friend, even I'm starting to question your sexuality.

(11-30-2014 05:17 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 02:56 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Tinder chick with a fucking stripper body is dtf. Unfortunately Fortunately, she's 18. I'm 27.

...

I know she's legal but fuck. Anything ending in the word "teen" is just...it doesn't sit right with me.

I don't know what how I should go about this

There we go.

(11-30-2014 04:37 PM)Mister X Wrote:  ...

I just can't shake the fact that it's shooting fish in a barrel. Firstly, she's the aggressor and I'm running don't fuck it up game, but if I take it up a notch to running actual, focused game...well then, game over.

Part of me can't shake the feeling that I'm manipulating this girl. I'm trying hard to shake it. I told one of my friends in confidence about this situation and he questioned my sexuality.

Really trying to find a way to do this and be alright with it mentally.

You're going to voluntarily turn down some 18 year old pussy - which is, might I add, an opportunity that many men your age wish they could have - just because of what other people might think of you? Like your friend, even I'm starting to question your sexuality.

Hahaha.

Well one of my fears is attachment. If she's comparing me to guys her age, obviously I'm a seasoned vet. I don't want a situation where I just see it as a fwb situation but she starts falling for me and drama ensures. a 27 year old involved in drama with a girl who's not even legally old enough to drink is embarrassing in my eyes.

Apart from that, I don't know. The kind of men I've typically seen chasing much younger tail are not guys I would exactly call players. They're usually chasing girls that age for several reasons, but namely because they can't compete within their age group. So they have to target girls that have lower expectations...where owning a car or your own place is enough to get you halfway to a notch.

But there's a difference between actively chasing much younger girls and just taking what falls in your lap. And I guess if I don't make a habit of it...I don't know.

I'm all conflicted here. Way too much thought going into this situation.

(11-30-2014 05:31 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Hahaha.

Well one of my fears is attachment. If she's comparing me to guys her age, obviously I'm a seasoned vet. I don't want a situation where I just see it as a fwb situation but she starts falling for me and drama ensures. a 27 year old involved in drama with a girl who's not even legally old enough to drink is embarrassing in my eyes.

Apart from that, I don't know. The kind of men I've typically seen chasing much younger tail are not guys I would exactly call players. They're usually chasing girls that age for several reasons, but namely because they can't compete within their age group. So they have to target girls that have lower expectations...where owning a car or your own place is enough to get you halfway to a notch.

But there's a difference between actively chasing much younger girls and just taking what falls in your lap. And I guess if I don't make a habit of it...I don't know.

I'm all conflicted here. Way too much thought going into this situation.

American chick, 18, on Tinder? Yeah, pretty sure you can safely discount the "getting-attached" deal. Smash away brah

HSLD

Dude, it's nothing to be embarrassed about, bang this girl the fuck out !

Nothing like banging 18 year old pussy, it's legal, it's tighter (usually).

Bang her and keep it to yourself if you're scared to tell people.

I'm 28 and I've banged 18-20 year olds on tinder, I have no regrets at all.


If a girl is on Tinder more than likely she's not looking for an LTR or will get attached.

Thanks dudes. After sleeping on it I feel a lot better.

Met up with this Ukranian girl. She had big tits and nice body. She's talking about her friend and turns out her friend also flirted with me on okc. She said how she doesnt kiss on the first date because she's very conservative. By the end I was making out with her but I didn't at all feel into it, this pattern has been repeating in other dates. I don't know what wrong.

She wants to see me again but i probably won't see her.

(12-02-2014 05:18 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  Met up with this Ukranian girl. She had big tits and nice body. She's talking about her friend and turns out her friend also flirted with me on okc. She said how she doesnt kiss on the first date because she's very conservative. By the end I was making out with her but I didn't at all feel into it, this pattern has been repeating in other dates. I don't know what wrong.

She wants to see me again but i probably won't see her.

Nomad just wrote a post on this regarding the lack of desire.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-42906.html

Also showing desire as well:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-42907.html

He gave me some really good insight when I messaged him, perhaps you should do the same !

Looking for some insight here.

So I'm in the gym the other day and I see this cute chick doing bench and close-grip bench. Knowing I had to do that as well since I was hitting triceps, I amble over and hit my sets pretty well on a bench next to her. When I use heavier weight, I need a spot to help me so my hands don't slip inside and I don't die. So I asked her to give me a spot and I do the first without much of a hitch. Another set later and the last one is a bit weaker than before and she helps the bar back up and I go about my day.

Fast forward a few days and I see a profile on OkCupid of a good-looking chick. One of her pictures is of her doing pull-ups at my gym.

I send her a message and she says that those are the same bars I am thinking of and then in another message, she says that she remembers giving me a 'spot' at the gym. She put quotes around spot, which is one of my hang-ups.

Anyway, I sent back two messages to her saying how small of a world it is and that I did need a spot since I didn't want to kill myself. Then another about pull-ups and such.

Haven't got a message back after the last one I sent.

Wondering if I should message again and drop my number to her saying I hate that site, wait it out, maybe see her at the gym again.

Thoughts?

What were the time intervals between you and her sending messages?

Usually sending two messages in a row is too many - let alone three.

Sending yet another one will really come off as being desperate.

The time to push for logistics was on the second message, at most - not the fourth (let alone fourth in a row.)

If you don't want to run the risk of looking desperate I'd wait it out. Give it a couple days and if she doesn't reply, try again by pushing right for logistics. Then it's a yes/no deal and there's nothing left you can do.

Take it as a learning experience.

HSLD

She responded relatively quickly to my first message, then about two minutes later sent the other one saying how she recognized me from giving me that spot. I had no idea that was her until she sent me that message. All I saw was a fit chick. I sent mine about about 15 minutes later and then followed it up with another 10 minutes later calling back her first message (since she said she took that picture in the gym that night).

(11-30-2014 02:56 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Tinder chick with a fucking stripper body is dtf. Unfortunately, she's 18. I'm 27.

I've never gone down that low. It's honestly something that I would keep from my friends. That's how embarrassed I feel.

I know she's legal but fuck. Anything ending in the word "teen" is just...it doesn't sit right with me.

I don't know what to do.

^Red Pill Problems

Overloaded myself way too much this week. Dates with new girls on Tuesday & Sunday, 2nd date (going for the bang) on Thursday, catch up with regular plate on Saturday and finally scheduled BJ with OKC chick on Wednesday (tonight) night (see OKC thread for details). Phew! #redpillproblems

Need to fix up my living situation though as I've moved into an existing house and no way can I ask my house mates to stick to their rooms in case I bring a girl over which makes going for the first date bang really hard. It's something I really want to try though.

Met up with my ex last night for the second time since we split in October. The sex with her is still amazing and now I've completely flipped the side chick I met in August to the main chick and the main chick from the summer is shaping up to be the new side chick. That pussy was so good that I almost caught feelings again UNTIL she started talking about her new found love for that "Guys We Fucked" podcast, which confirms my prior suspicion of her having too many ho tendencies to continue the LTR we were in.

(11-29-2014 02:10 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 08:17 AM)KC4 Wrote:  Kaotic i have had similar bumps but they usually disappear after a couple of days. Wait a day or 2 then check it out.

They looked like whiteheads, went to urgent care doc checked it out, said it didn't look like herpes or molloscum.

Did a swab culture, he'll find out in a few days, until then he gave me a 7 day prescription for Valtrex. I'm praying it's not some STD like herpes.

I'm FUCKED.

Doc called (never a good thing) told me.....I have genital herpes.

I'm pretty sure I know who I got it from, goddammit I should've worn a condom with that girl with hickies on her titties.

My biggest concern:
Telling my main girl that I have it, we haven't had sex since I noticed something was up with the base of my dick:

I was thinking about meeting somewhere neutral, explaining it's been dormant (since before our relationship) and it decided to pop up. I'll tell her i'm on Valtrex also and this is what it is now. She also needs to get tested asap.

This might mean the end of our relationship, i've accepted that option.

She might want to stay and I can explain I'll stay on Valtrex and wear condoms, (even thought it doesn't protect against any skin on skin.

Noone deserves to get this, she doesn't either.

How would you guys break it to her ?

I could definently use some support on this brothers, I feel like I became another fucking statistic and that my game has been shot to shit, I feel sick to my stomach man, it's not life ending, but it sure fucking feels like it.

I've read the other threads on herpes on the forum, how dudes gamed post discovery, etc.

Does anyone else have herpes? How did you deal with this ? Are you still banging ? Anymore outbreaks ? Still spinning plates or LTR ? PM ME if you don't want to talk about it on the forum.