^ They never get better unless you patiently go after good girls that are usually a significant drop in SMV 1.0-1.5 points in what you can get with your current game and value.

I got flaked today an hour before we were meant to meet up with the old classic i'm ill response. What really pissed me off is that to get to hers was going to take 2 buses taking about an hour and a bit to get there with one bus to the nearest town and then one bus to where she lives, luckily I managed to jump out at the first stop on the second bus and get back to the town but still paid for the ticket.

Think I might try and rearrange but with her coming to me and if she refuses then NEXT.

No means maybe
Maybe is yes
And yes is anal

Persistence is paying off

(09-17-2014 03:17 PM)simondice Wrote:  No means maybe
Maybe is yes
And yes is anal

Persistence is paying off

Details dude

Asked a girl out from a coffee shop last Monday. She seemed very interested at the time and even asked me for my number first.

This past week, when I've texted her she's been very unresponsive.

Day I got number
Me: Hey its me, whats up?
Her: Hey nothing getting drinks and dinner with my sister
Me: Sounds nice, where are you guys going
Her: Sushi Restaurant
Me: good choice, but X place has better sushi
~no response~

Two days later
Me: Any plans tonight?
Her: Sorry I'm just now seeing this! (several hours later)
Me: Its alright, whats up
~no response~

Waited a week
Me: Last chance, do you want to get drinks
Her: Lol last chance? I was at work
Me: I lose interest if we're not talking or making plans

This is over the span of ten days. Was my texting game shitty? I kept it pretty simple. She does work a lot... Do I say screw it or open her one more time? Maybe I should've called.

I've found this style of texting to be ineffective for me if your game wasn't incredibly tight during your initial meeting and you already made plans irl. It's too dry and boring.

Also getting 2 nos in a row is a sure fire way to get a girl to ignore you forever don't build no ladders

(09-17-2014 04:15 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  I've found this style of texting to be ineffective for me if your game wasn't incredibly tight during your initial meeting and you already made plans irl. It's too dry and boring.

Also getting 2 nos in a row is a sure fire way to get a girl to ignore you forever don't build no ladders

My game was tight at the time. She seemed very interested and seemed even more eager than me to go out. I guess this is a growing point where I need to plan the date at the initial conversation.

Do you think I should open her in any way again?

Thanks for the feedback.

My game is going through a serious overhaul right now.

I've gotten plenty bangs this year but I am not satisfied with the quality. I've been lazy, and most of my bangs have less to do with game and more to do with looks, that's not how I want it to be.

It's been a struggle to get rid of the asshole game I've been playing. It's hard to get back to the point where I actually care about other people, or to tolerate mundane conversation. Fuck.

London Fashion Week brings tears to my eyes every time.
Just walked down Oxford St as i was there for a meeting and it's not even funny how many more unbelievably hot girls there are amongst the troglodytes that usually frequent the place.
Got 2 numbers from 8's wandering from Regent St to Bond St, and then my balls retreated into my stomach as i regressed 10 years and failed to approach the most attractive woman i have ever seen literally stopping traffic on Bond St, (and i've met Miranda Kerr..!).
Every person, man or woman turned and stared as she sashayed her way alone down the pavement. It was like something out of a film. Pretty sure she was Russian.
It's been a long time since i've felt that reaction (both mine personally and the effect she had on everyone else who saw her) and despite being a total pussy, i've had a huge grin on my face all afternoon. Just from knowing how staggeringly impressive the effect of truly undeniable beauty, and the sexual energy that radiates from it can be. Sometimes we need reminding.
Next time i'll be prepared.

(09-17-2014 09:50 PM)General Mayhem Wrote:  My game is going through a serious overhaul right now.

I've gotten plenty bangs this year but I am not satisfied with the quality. I've been lazy, and most of my bangs have less to do with game and more to do with looks, that's not how I want it to be.

It's been a struggle to get rid of the asshole game I've been playing. It's hard to get back to the point where I actually care about other people, or to tolerate mundane conversation. Fuck.

Asshole game is hard to break once you've seen it give you results.
Sometimes I catch myself being an asshole to genuinely sweet girls and they get scared or turned off.
Lucky for us, a girl will forgive you for being an asshole sometimes but never for being a bitch boy

HAH....2nd meetup....check out this new brewery in town.

We watch this dude puke all over the floor and slip and fall in his own puke.

Thanks for the easy bounce, head to another bar, have the whole pool room to ourselves, played some pool got a hot and heavy makeout.

We bounce back to her car (left it at the other place). Get hot and heavy again, I get her bottomless, she gives me the old "I'm on my period" shit test.

Without thinking I pass it, "that's fine I'm not worried"...."you'll get blood all over your car"...."that's fine I've got a towel in trunk"..."well I'm still on my period"...."heard that before, show me the string"...."you really want to see the string?"...."yup"....

She shows, turns out she really is on her period, I ended up getting one of my top 5 blowjobs ever. She told me she LOVES giving head. She was sloppy cock worshipping and was moaning more and more as I cummed.

Bitch didn't swallow of it, I got some on my fucking legs and stomach...and a bit on my backseat.

Here I am bitching her out, while walking around naked in a near deserted parking lot, wiping myself and my seats off and she's laughing....honestly I started laughing also...she tries giving me a makeout kiss goodnight but I wasn't having it.

Honestly....I don't give a fuck if I get the bang with this one, this was whatever, I have 0 motivation to meet up again.

Got an SNL from online last night

It was more than 4 months between our first contact and last night-she flaked on me twice and I had numerous failed attempts to schedule a date.

But she does live in a different city and travels a lot so some of that was understandable

My rule is as long a a girl keeps showing interest I will keep up occasional contact

As it turned out, we hit it off strongly right away and had a great time. Amazing body. Very smart and great personality. Girlfriend material.

Here's a tip I was reminded of again last night-pushing a girl up against an object when you kiss her- a wall, a door, a tree, a car, is one of the most powerful kino moves you can do. It makes her feel pinned and helpless in the face of your masculine power and that quick domination will spike her arousal. It's not for the first kiss though, save it for just the right time when you and she are feeling a strong vibe together. The more spontaneous it seems the better

I'm getting cockblocked by this okc girl's roommate

Our first date was spent in the car next to her house the whole time because her roommate didn't want me in the house incase I was a serial killer. She was down to sleep with me that night but I passed.

The night after we were supposed to meet to bang at her place she tells me her roommate won't let me in till we've hung out more and they had a fight about it so she wants to hang out (we live 30 mi from each other and going on dates is exhausting and boring to me)

I'v never experienced a situation like this. The girl in question isn't lying.

(09-20-2014 09:43 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  I'm getting cockblocked by this okc girl's roommate

Our first date was spent in the car next to her house the whole time because her roommate didn't want me in the house incase I was a serial killer. She was down to sleep with me that night but I passed.

The night after we were supposed to meet to bang at her place she tells me her roommate won't let me in till we've hung out more and they had a fight about it so she wants to hang out (we live 30 mi from each other and going on dates is exhausting and boring to me)

I'v never experienced a situation like this. The girl in question isn't lying.

It seems like this girl can either (a) tell her roommate to STFU, (b) haul her ass to your place, or © figure something out. If she's letting logistical challenges prevent bangs, I'm wondering how interested she is in banging; if she's letting her roommate's disapproval/neuroticism prevent her from fulfilling her romantic objectives, I question how weak her personality must be.

Had a great weekend, met a snookie like girl with DD's (def thick) last weekend we finally hungout this weekend, she texted me after midnight while im on my way home from a show(thought for sure a bang) turns out we were in her parents backyard, but she very clearly knows my intentions. "We're not having sex" "you're going to have to earn it" I laughed so hard and said with a smirk "that's cute, heard that before, but we all know what's going to happen". I'm not worried about it.

I tried bulldozing it didn't work, but here's what I noticed and it goes with this saying: "A women will forgive a man who's aggressive, than a guy who bitches out and does nothing".

I also noticed when drunk my game feels on autopilot, typical cocky asshole behavior (she even told me she loved it). I feel my confidence slowly building in knowing that gaming a girl is being ingrained into me little by little.

This other girl trims my beard, we've gotten to know each other pretty decnetly, I bitched out getting her number last time, got it this time.

Get this, as we were finishing up, she gifted me a bottle of beard oil (read: she's interested?). I politely declined since I already had some and hers would go to waste. I told her, I'll get her number to talk about the oil and grab a beer this week. She has short hair, but skinny and really mellow, seems like she had a checkered possibly wild (read: slutty) past.

One of my regs finally came over this weekend while I was meal prepping, had an awesome head session (I was whatever about fucking). I was fingering her while she blew me, moved my finger to her ass....startled her a little bit haha, had to push some boundaries. Oh well.

Great start to the week !

(09-17-2014 11:05 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ^ They never get better unless you patiently go after good girls that are usually a significant drop in SMV 1.0-1.5 points in what you can get with your current game and value.

It's still easier for me to pick up college 8.5s than 7s. [and in real life] More guys are afraid to blow up their phones or ask them out and risk getting ejected from beta orbit forever.

Your game should be way better than flaking to watch Netflix, honestly. I am not sure how that is her 'fault.' If that's the case, be thankful she told you and now you can figure out what went wrong and how to fix it - your dress, grooming, Game, etc.

Your SMV comes into play here.

(09-17-2014 03:17 PM)simondice Wrote:  No means maybe
Maybe is yes

My own humble experience is that No means Maybe, but Maybe means Never.

They way you break it down, they are all 'Yes' girls. In which case, congrats!

My lack of care is strong today still indirect approached some college chick because I had no energy. Got an email because she is brand new from London black looks like Scary Spice.

I don't have much hope.

I tire of the clown suit more and more I just want to escalate asap and see what they do.

I thought having more game may make me feel more neutral towards sluts instead of slight disgust.

A strange thing has happened if a girl is a slut and shows it explicitly with trashy dress or being a stripper I am good with that and fucking her, hanging out, laughing having a good time. I feel positive toward them and care about them as a person although I'd never commit.

Now if it is a girl trying to project good girl on the outside and I find she's slutted around I am more disgusted than ever as in cannot hold eye contact even.

I want outright honesty, I see otherwise as betrayal. I respect the outright slut much more.

Any of you guys build too big of a reputation as that guy who always trys to hit on girls in a city?

(09-22-2014 07:23 PM)Teddykgb Wrote:  Any of you guys build too big of a reputation as that guy who always trys to hit on girls in a city?

Not in a city, but I do have a reputation on campus...

I cold approach maybe 10-15 girls everyday. A few of them might know each other; it's happened before. I've literally had girls tell me "My friend told me you tried to talk to her too!"

I wouldn't say it's a "bad" reputation. It has definitely helped in some aspects of my game. As weird as it sounds, my female friends will recommend me to some of their friends solely because "I'm a guy who knows what he wants." (their words)

It just depends on how you go about cultivating your rep. I have a frat bro who's the stereotypical frat guy: known for banging a bunch of chicks. When we cold approach together, most girls will literally tell him they're not interested because they've "heard" about him or because he banged one of their friends.

^ 10-15 a day is impressive how are your results usually?

(09-22-2014 07:41 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ^ 10-15 a day is impressive how are your results usually?

I'd say for every 10 girls I approach, I'll get 4-5 numbers. On a good day I'll get about 7. On a bad day, I'll get 2 numbers at most. Sometimes I don't even go for numbers; I just ask for their Facebook since they're more likely to give that out.

Since school started I've banged 5 girls(all from cold approach). Not impressive when compared to how many numbers I receive on a day to day basis but keep in my mind that though my school is pretty big(17k+ undergrads), most of these girls will be at campus bars, parties, gym, or library.. or in the park studying, so I tend to run into them a lot.

If there's anything that attribute to my "success," I'd say it's a bit of "on-campus" fame + the people in my social circle. I run track for my school so a lot of people know me from seeing my pics on the school's Facebook page or posters in the halls or whatever. Most of my friends are athletes and my closet buddy(and wingman) is the president of a well known frat so I'm always at their events meeting tons of chicks and socializing.

Oh, and I get a few numbers from Tinder, too. Everyone on campus uses it.

(09-22-2014 07:58 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 07:41 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ^ 10-15 a day is impressive how are your results usually?

I'd say for every 10 girls I approach, I'll get 4-5 numbers. On a good day I'll get about 7. On a bad day, I'll get 2 numbers at most. Sometimes I don't even go for numbers; I just ask for their Facebook since they're more likely to give that out.

Since school started I've banged 5 girls(all from cold approach). Not impressive when compared to how many numbers I receive on a day to day basis but keep in my mind that though my school is pretty big(17k+ undergrads), most of these girls will be at campus bars, parties, gym, or library.. or in the park studying, so I tend to run into them a lot.

If there's anything that attribute to my "success," I'd say it's a bit of "on-campus" fame + the people in my social circle. I run track for my school so a lot of people know me from seeing my pics on the school's Facebook page or posters in the halls or whatever. Most of my friends are athletes and my closet buddy(and wingman) is the president of a well known frat so I'm always at their events meeting tons of chicks and socializing.

Oh, and I get a few numbers from Tinder, too. Everyone on campus uses it.

You should start a thread about your experiences that is a lot of work put in. I am sure you are learning a lot. I have 400 approaches over the last year. Probably 250 from campus. You cover that ground in a month haha.

Do you have 1000s of approaches since being in college?

If you think about it is insane.

If you go to a 17k undergrad school, that's roughly 8.5k girls.

You approach 1000 in a year, that's over 10% of the school population of women.

I am guessing on your campus like most, even at the hot girl party schools, less than 25% are 7+.

If you approached 1000 7+ in a year out of maybe 2k total you have approached half the very cute to hot girls in the entire student body of a major university...

A reputation would be an understatement.

Do you go mostly direct?

Travesty444 Wrote:You should start a thread about your experiences that is a lot of work put in. I am sure you are learning a lot. I have 400 approaches over the last year. Probably 250 from campus. You cover that ground in a month haha.

Do you have 1000s of approaches since being in college?

I'm sure I'm pretty close. A while back in the Approach thread—I think it was in March—I mentioned how I accomplished a milestone of approaching 350 girls. It's only been 4 weeks since school started and I've definitely approached over 100 girls(this is excluding the girls I approached when I was back home in NYC for summer break) since. By the end of the semester I should be close to 1000.

Travesty444 Wrote:If you think about it is insane.

If you go to a 17k undergrad school, that's roughly 8.5k girls.

You approach 1000 in a year, that's over 10% of the school population of women.

I am guessing on your campus like most, even at the hot girl party schools, less than 25% are 7+.

If you approached 1000 7+ in a year out of maybe 2k total you have approached half the very cute to hot girls in the entire student body of a major university...

A reputation would be an understatement.

Do you go mostly direct?

Last year my game was mostly indirect. I have since switched it up. Now I'm a lot more direct and aggressive(going for make-outs 20 mins into the conversation or insta dates). The more I run direct game, the more I find indirect game a waste of time. I don't like jumping through hoops, and to me, that's what indirect game is. I'll occasionally run indirect game if I see a girl reading a book in the park or something but for the most part my game is direct.

Ok so you are 350 last school year, 100+ this year so far.

Haha let us know what happens if you make it to 1000 in a year.

On the campus I approach at if I doubled or tripled my approaches I know I would run into the same chicks over and over.

I have already accidentally hit on 3 different chicks for a 2nd time without realizing it until a few minutes into the approach.

If you did 1000 in a year, I wouldn't be surprised if you were in the school newspaper for it. Which would probably be a good thing.