Post: #1

A quick search on google trends says it all and shows just how bad the situation has gotten for men in the past 5 years alone. I have rarely seen such a steady uptrend for any google trends term...this is steady!

Of course, the largest Anglo countries are leading the parade.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=mgtow

Post: #2

Canada represent!

Post: #3

(05-20-2013 11:53 PM)bacon Wrote:  Canada represent!

I'll bet that 90% of that Canadian traffic came from Toronto.

Post: #4

At the same time "pick up artist" is declining over time. Again like with mgtow, the countries featured on the map are the usual suspects:
USA, Canada, UK, Sweden, Norway, Germany, Austria, France, South Africa, Australia (including Brazil and India which makes sense given the recent feminist movements there)

Post: #5

(05-20-2013 11:53 PM)bacon Wrote:  That Tao of Steve states that, yes, all women will eventually be won over if you:
1.) Eliminate your desires.
2.) Do something excellent in her presence, thereby proving your sexual worthiness.
3.) Retreat, for as Heidegger said, "We pursue that which retreats from us".

My experience and strategy is the opposite.

I'll escalate even when the woman is uninterested, and use my own strong passion to ignite a passion in her that she hadn't realized that she was containing.

There is nothing so delicious as a near rapey escalation past a woman's boundaries, pushing past her objections and "I"m not in the mood"s and "I want to go slow and fall in love first" to that delicious place of ownership where she gives all of herself over to your protective loving and fiercely erotic embrace and comes and comes on your big dick poking her G spot, only to later smile and hold you in warm embrace and ask when she can see you again.

Eliminate desires my ass. Desire IS seduction.

Post: #6

Men withdrawing from a society and social contract (marriage) built on lies that utterly despises the average man and seeks to marginalize him as nothing more than a cock with an ATM card?

My heavens, I have no idea why!?

Post: #7

(05-21-2013 12:36 AM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  Men withdrawing from a society and social contract (marriage) built on lies that utterly despises the average man and seeks to marginalize him as nothing more than a cock with an ATM card?

My heavens, I have no idea why!?

Because becoming a wealthy international playboy who plays a different game by different rules is too difficult.

Post: #8

(05-21-2013 12:31 AM)xsplat Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 11:53 PM)bacon Wrote:  That Tao of Steve states that, yes, all women will eventually be won over if you:
1.) Eliminate your desires.
2.) Do something excellent in her presence, thereby proving your sexual worthiness.
3.) Retreat, for as Heidegger said, "We pursue that which retreats from us".

My experience and strategy is the opposite.

I'll escalate even when the woman is uninterested, and use my own strong passion to ignite a passion in her that she hadn't realized that she was containing.

There is nothing so delicious as a near rapey escalation past a woman's boundaries, pushing past her objections and "I"m not in the mood"s and "I want to go slow and fall in love first" to that delicious place of ownership where she gives all of herself over to your protective loving and fiercely erotic embrace and comes and comes on your big dick poking her G spot, only to later smile and hold you in warm embrace and ask when she can see you again.

Eliminate desires my ass. Desire IS seduction.

I think you have some creative ideas, but my understanding is this was all developed and tested in Asia, right?

Post: #9

(05-21-2013 12:55 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 12:31 AM)xsplat Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 11:53 PM)bacon Wrote:  That Tao of Steve states that, yes, all women will eventually be won over if you:
1.) Eliminate your desires.
2.) Do something excellent in her presence, thereby proving your sexual worthiness.
3.) Retreat, for as Heidegger said, "We pursue that which retreats from us".

My experience and strategy is the opposite.

I'll escalate even when the woman is uninterested, and use my own strong passion to ignite a passion in her that she hadn't realized that she was containing.

There is nothing so delicious as a near rapey escalation past a woman's boundaries, pushing past her objections and "I"m not in the mood"s and "I want to go slow and fall in love first" to that delicious place of ownership where she gives all of herself over to your protective loving and fiercely erotic embrace and comes and comes on your big dick poking her G spot, only to later smile and hold you in warm embrace and ask when she can see you again.

Eliminate desires my ass. Desire IS seduction.

I think you have some creative ideas, but my understanding is this was all developed and tested in Asia, right?

If you looked for them you'd find men following these same ideas living in your city now. There are men on this very forum who espouse similar or even the same ideas.

Sure, it's easy enough to discount my experience as alien until you take a closer look. What I talk about may be a minority opinion, but it's still common and cross cultural and happening where you live right now. Likely even by men who you are in contact with.

Post: #10

The sharp spikes in the data indicates the total number of searches being very low. Compare to the PUA search term chart already posted, with more smooth features. So its still nothing.

Post: #11

MGTOW is on the rise. No doubt.

Post: #12

Another thought, iknowexactly. I think you'll notice a trend towards realizing that the push towards being anhedonic as a seduction style leads to overall life dissatisfaction and player burnout.

Without genuine internalized passion and interest the whole game is dull.

And besides, we magnetize around us what we create inside of us. How can you magnetize a loving and passionate woman unless you are a loving and passionate man?

The seduction style of anhedonia has been tried, and found wanting. It failed.

There are already many teachers of a more embodied and real approach that includes our passions and emotions to entrain the woman into a whorl-whind of passion. You have heard of several of them - they are well known and respected.

http://www.puamarketing.com/dating-artic...al-energy/