Post: #26

(05-03-2013 07:10 PM)Doctor Wrote:  Find the best coach possible. There are tons of them online. Sort through the garbage. Programming is far more difficult and important than most people realize.

Do the same for a diet coach. The longer you work with them the better they'll understand your body.

Find training partners that are bigger and stronger than you. Don't be the big fish in the little pond.

Stay off the sauce for as long as you can. I'd put a round number of at least 5 years following the above. Probably longer.

Programming? What do you mean?

Post: #27

Also remember youre nothing more than a guy who lifts for aesthetics at the gym until you actually step on the stage and compete

Post: #28

(05-03-2013 08:30 PM)brk9912 Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 10:33 AM)Hades Wrote:  Where are you at now in terms of numbers, weight, and body composition?
I second the needles.

Weight: 210
Not sure about body composition on things like body fat percentage and such.

I recommend 100% to watch the documentary so you know what you're signing up for. If you're a normal American (making assumptions here) you will probably weigh in the neighborhood of 165-170 when absolutely shredded.

Post: #29

(05-03-2013 08:34 PM)brk9912 Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 07:10 PM)Doctor Wrote:  Find the best coach possible. There are tons of them online. Sort through the garbage. Programming is far more difficult and important than most people realize.

Do the same for a diet coach. The longer you work with them the better they'll understand your body.

Find training partners that are bigger and stronger than you. Don't be the big fish in the little pond.

Stay off the sauce for as long as you can. I'd put a round number of at least 5 years following the above. Probably longer.

Programming? What do you mean?

When I say programming I am referring to the exercise selection, sets and reps, rest periods, etc. There are a lot of programs on here that are absolutely fine for getting stronger or general fitness. If you truly want to be a professional (i.e. elite level of the sport), then having someone who can get the absolute most out of you from every training session (that does not necessarily mean always going to absolute failure all the time) while keeping you healthy is of the utmost importance. Bodybuilding is not my sport. I'm in powerlifting. I work with one of the top coaches on the planet. I credit a lot of my success to him (and I am fairly successful). Bodybuilding is more than endless sets of 10-15 reps. I don't know how old you are or your training history, but look at some of the teen competitors out there (and yes some of them are probably sauced up). How far behind them are you? This may sound a bit dramatic, but the more time you waste with mediocre workouts and a mediocre diet the further you are getting behind.

Post: #30

(05-03-2013 08:46 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  Also remember youre nothing more than a guy who lifts for aesthetics at the gym until you actually step on the stage and compete

This is also immensely important. Don't be that guy who talks about being a bodybuilder without ever competing. You need to compete. Even when you think you aren't ready you need to compete. Competing shows you exactly where you stand compared to others. You can track your progress more precisely. It will keep you modest about where you're at. And you will learn about yourself while doing a competition cut. I can't testify to it, but I've heard cutting for a competition gets easier the more practiced you are at it. Your first few years you may loathe doing endless hours of cardio during your prep. Then you figure out how to numb your mind while doing it and everything just becomes habit. And keep in mind that Ronnie Coleman is (according to a quick google) 48 this year. That means he was at his peak in his mid to late 30s and into his 40s. I'd gander to say he put in close to two decades of hard work before he reached that peak. Think about that.

Post: #31

A good start for a noob would be to do something like p90x. That way everything is laid out for you and all you have to do is follow the videos an some sort of diet plan. It will get you in a decent shape to start lifting heavy. Word to your mother

Post: #32

(05-03-2013 09:23 PM)Doctor Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 08:46 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  Also remember youre nothing more than a guy who lifts for aesthetics at the gym until you actually step on the stage and compete

This is also immensely important. Don't be that guy who talks about being a bodybuilder without ever competing. You need to compete. Even when you think you aren't ready you need to compete. Competing shows you exactly where you stand compared to others. You can track your progress more precisely. It will keep you modest about where you're at. And you will learn about yourself while doing a competition cut. I can't testify to it, but I've heard cutting for a competition gets easier the more practiced you are at it. Your first few years you may loathe doing endless hours of cardio during your prep. Then you figure out how to numb your mind while doing it and everything just becomes habit. And keep in mind that Ronnie Coleman is (according to a quick google) 48 this year. That means he was at his peak in his mid to late 30s and into his 40s. I'd gander to say he put in close to two decades of hard work before he reached that peak. Think about that.

Honestly, after watching that documentary, I'll have to really think about what I want. This may not be something that I wanna jump into. Those guys work their asses off, but that doesn't mean that it would work best for me.

Post: #33

Step one: Squat. Are you squatting right now? No? Go squat.

Post: #34

Great Genetics
Proper usage of Steroids
High quality protein
Gym 5-6 days a week
Live n breathe Bodybuilding 24/7

Post: #35

(05-03-2013 08:29 PM)brk9912 Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 09:25 AM)raliv Wrote:  Tell me OP, are you afraid of needles?

Not interested in that .

Then forget about looking like a 'massive' bodybuilder that you described.

Post: #36

Your hormone level decides how much mass you can carry, if you want to be big, test, tren deca then cry when you get out of breath walking up stairs.

Post: #37

My gym has a few competing bodybuilders, how do I know this?

Other than the fact they enjoy stripping off in front of everybody (always me) I just took a wild guess.

BB'ing, weightlifting and strongman are different animals when competing. The desire to use gear cycles is huge in some circles.

Post: #38

(05-03-2013 08:31 PM)brk9912 Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 12:42 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  Why do you want to get as big as the bodybuilders you see on the internet?

Because I think it's cool and it looks like it would be fun and challenging to attempt.

Becoming a bodybuilder is not something that is just fun and you just attempt. It takes years of dedication to achieve their physiques and its mostly hard work of preparing meals eating right lifting multiple times a day and doing steroids. Its pretty much a full time job

Asking how to become a bodybuilder is like asking how to become a rockstar which your first step would be to learn to play an instrument or sing. I suggest you start going to the gym and eating correctly and all the other advice given on this forum and see if you can actually be consistent before you decide to try and become a bodybuilder