Post: #1

I think everyone has had a few of these in their day. I know the race discussion guidelines are taken seriously on this forum and I want it to be known I respect that and am only writing about personal experience. I'm not trying to say all black guys are like this.

I have a 2 good friends who are black, both confident good looking guys. For whatever reason, they have absolutely no qualms about banging women they aren't attracted to, I mean fat, not attractive, to super fat. They don't care. I had a few experiences with it in my drunk college days and I only ended up feeling stupid about it..and unimpressed with myself.

One of my friends calls it "salvage" and says a "salvage title is better than none at all". He's also compared it to "having to eat something when you're hungry". I don't think it's a black thing either...it might just be the direction the USA has taken, and they are majority, and guys need to bang something. I used to work with a fat woman who would constantly brag about how many first contacts she received on POF from "hot guys". It was actually true. Sometimes I wonder what is wrong with men.

I'm starting to think they may just have naturally higher levels of testosterone. I do remember once a woman wasn't attracted to invited me back to her apartment, I ended up chugging about 7 beers after I was already drunk just so I could fall asleep or at least not remember the situation.

There's a certain feeling you have when you hook up with a woman you are attracted to, and while it may not be important, I have wondered this divide in guys.

Post: #2

While I have seen a lot of black guys with fat girls, I've seen more white betas orbiting ugly ass girls. It's desperation man. If you can't get what you want, I guess you have to get something.

Post: #3

(04-01-2013 09:26 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  While I have seen a lot of black guys with fat girls, I've seen more white betas orbiting ugly ass girls. It's desperation man. If you can't get what you want, I guess you have to get something.

I would argue that it's probably laziness. Most of the brothas I've known that do the fat girl thing just don't want to work that hard at their craft. For alot of guys game comes very naturally to them. Their charismatic, they read people well, they plan and execute verbal judo. Their friends see this, fail at any attempt to emulate, then just give up and go for the easy kill.

If there's one thing I could point to about us that needs work it's that Blacks need to up their work ethic. I include myself in this, I've never worked as hard as I could have until recently and it's paid huge dividends.

Post: #4

(04-01-2013 09:33 PM)Sharky Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 09:26 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  While I have seen a lot of black guys with fat girls, I've seen more white betas orbiting ugly ass girls. It's desperation man. If you can't get what you want, I guess you have to get something.

I would argue that it's probably laziness. Most of the brothas I've known that do the fat girl thing just don't want to work that hard at their craft. For alot of guys game comes very naturally to them. Their charismatic, they read people well, they plan and execute verbal judo. Their friends see this, fail at any attempt to emulate, then just give up and go for the easy kill.

If there's one thing I could point to about us that needs work it's that Blacks need to up their work ethic. I include myself in this, I've never worked as hard as I could have until recently and it's paid huge dividends.

That's also right. I guess it's more not that they "can't" get better, they just fail to try.

Post: #5

(04-01-2013 09:35 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 09:33 PM)Sharky Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 09:26 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  While I have seen a lot of black guys with fat girls, I've seen more white betas orbiting ugly ass girls. It's desperation man. If you can't get what you want, I guess you have to get something.

I would argue that it's probably laziness. Most of the brothas I've known that do the fat girl thing just don't want to work that hard at their craft. For alot of guys game comes very naturally to them. Their charismatic, they read people well, they plan and execute verbal judo. Their friends see this, fail at any attempt to emulate, then just give up and go for the easy kill.

If there's one thing I could point to about us that needs work it's that Blacks need to up their work ethic. I include myself in this, I've never worked as hard as I could have until recently and it's paid huge dividends.

That's also right. I guess it's more not that they "can't" get better, they just fail to try.

Success is a habit. So is failure.

Post: #6

(04-01-2013 09:26 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  While I have seen a lot of black guys with fat girls, I've seen more white betas orbiting ugly ass girls. It's desperation man. If you can't get what you want, I guess you have to get something.

They don't actually want to date these women, it's about an easy lay, basically sexual mitigation. The beta white guys actually want to date & marry those women.

Post: #7

Maybe those women give great head?

Post: #8

There is a guy who probably has one of the highest notch counts of anyone I know, he is from Alaska, about 6 ft. 3 in., athletic build, and a lot of girls find him to be handsome. This guy probably has had sex with over 300 girls, but I am amazed by how low his standards are. If I had to guess and from what I've seen at least half his bangs are with girls that are 5's. I have known him to repeatedly bang girls that most guys would rate in the 4 range.

Well last Thurs. when I was at the bar, I see dude make out with and go home with a beastly girl that most guys would probably rate a 3. This girl was not only fat, but ugly, and mannish in appearance. I guess there is no moral to this story, and my friend is atypical, and since he comes from Alaska, I think a lot of that contributes to his lack of standard, especially considering he gets shit faced drunk too.

Anyways, it's just amazing how some guys will go from filet mingon to hamburger helper with no qualms. I mean I have been guilty of picking low hanging fruit, which I have recently written about on the forum, but I do maintain some level of standards and self-dignity. When a guy hits a low patch and lowers his standards, it should be a means to an end so to speak, to end a brutal dry spell and begin to pull himself out of a rut. I don't think it's cool when a guy makes a habit of doing this, and is only acceptable in dire situations.

A lot of guys are just straight up thirsty these days, and I do agree with Sharky's post about dudes being lazy too. For a large percentage of guys pick up is becoming a major hassle, with little rewards, for guys who do pick up regularly, it can be hard locking down a cool, loyal, and fun chick, who isn't a total bitch or wannabe female player. Now I speak solely coming from my own perspective, so take it with a grain of salt.

All I know is that the game has it's highs and it's lows, but I just can't see myself fucking nasty fat girls on the regular. At that point, I'd rather just move to Thailand or Brazil and do P4P for the rest of my life.

Post: #9

(04-01-2013 09:43 PM)rakishness Wrote:  Maybe those women give great head?

Maybe they have great personalities?

Post: #10

I think most of these guys actually try and project an attractive woman, while banging the fattie. I don't think they are standard fat fetish guys.

Post: #11

(04-01-2013 09:43 PM)rakishness Wrote:  Maybe those women give great head?

Fat girls do give bomb-ass brain...




DON'T JUDGE ME!!

Post: #12

(04-01-2013 09:26 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  While I have seen a lot of black guys with fat girls, I've seen more white betas orbiting ugly ass girls. It's desperation man. If you can't get what you want, I guess you have to get something.

It's not about orbiting. Orbiters tend to have the "I want to date this girl" mindset.

It's more of a maintenance sex type of thing. An alternative to jerking off. You gotta remember
...the boner test is a sliding scale. It's all relative to how horny you are at any given time.

Have I fucked fat girls? Sure.
Have I fucked ugly girls? Yup.

Sometimes you do it because it's so damn easy and you like to see what kind of dirty things
she'll let you do to her. Sometimes it's about getting her to suck your dick because you know you can.
Why the fuck not? You don't have to date these girls. You'll never bring them around your friends or family.
Sometimes they blow ME off after I fuck them. Do I care? Hell naw

Try not to get yourself into this mindset --> If she's not girlfriend material then I won't fuck her.

Let me skip ahead a few chapters and tell you how the story ends.

It's your job as a man to pursue and sleep with as many women as you possibly can.
It's her job as a woman to get you to commit to her and be in a relationship with the
intent of taking care of her financially for the rest of her life.

The irony of it all is ...the more women you sleep with the more desirable you are.
For women it's the opposite. The less guys they've slept with(Zero being ideal) the
more desirable they are. That's why they always lie.

Post: #13

(04-01-2013 09:50 PM)globalunderground Wrote:  I think most of these guys actually try and project an attractive woman, while banging the fattie. I don't think they are standard fat fetish guys.

Yeah, it's guys taking what they can get.

For most guys, holding out for 6s+ is essentially casting oneself out to the gulags of celibacy.

A few years ago, I stopped cold approaching under 7s. If I started to slip into a multi-week dry spell, I would just go out more and bump up my approaches.

Now I don't even do that. I am okay with occasionally going five to six weeks without banging a new girl. In the meantime I can work on campaigns and fall back on previous bangs, even though the Coolidge Effect sets in very quickly.

Pick up is a game of probability. Thanks to the Central Limit Theorem/Law of Large Numbers, I know slumps will end sooner or later.

Post: #14

(04-01-2013 09:59 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  The irony of it all is ...the more women you sleep with the more desirable you are.
For women it's the opposite. The less guys they've slept with(Zero being ideal) the
more desirable they are. That's why they always lie.

Oh I disagree. I've had two virgins in my life and it was a pain in the ass. I like a broad who's been broken in a bit so I don't have to teach her everything. Slutty girls know what they're doing, and don't guard the pussy like it's made out of weapons grade plutonium.

Yes, "good" girls are an ego boost. But slutty girls are, in my experience, more fun.

Post: #15

Most guys do not get very much sex. Most of us here have the knowledge and drive to enable us to get laid at least semi-regularly, but the typical guy "gets lucky"/falls into a relationship maybe only once a year, or once a decade. If you don't have a girlfriend and haven't "gotten lucky" in six months, and you're under 40, you'd probably bang almost anything with a hole and a heartbeat, after a certain point. I know I would. As a freshman in high school I remember lusting after this beast who rode my schoolbus. She was a 5 at best, on a good day, but she had a pussy and there was a good chance she would let me put my dick inside it, so as much as the thought disgusted me, I was also very much willing. Thankfully, a combination of logistical failures/my betaness at the time meant that never worked out, so I don't have to reproach myself about it today.

Post: #16

I personally have not problem banging fatties. Especially when going out clubbing ... a combination of drunkenness, hot girls with bitchy attitudes , the easy pussy , closing time, tiredness and the relative anonymity nightlife gives me somehow makes it okay for me to occasionally fuck a fatty.

Here is where i draw the line ... i would never pick up a fatty or even dance with one if any female friends are at the bar/club. The social repercussions are just too great. Doesn't matter if you got 10/10 facial aesthetics and a perfect body, if attractive girls see you with someone who they deem not attractive ... you're done. They think something is wrong with you or lack confidence.


I also think that a lot of guys on here ... who claim " 2/10 would not bang " would actually bang em provided that they dont have to put any work into it & the bang stays anonymous.

Post: #17

I'm too spoiled by my current options to even notice that fat girls exist. I guess during some pretty bad dry spell I'd get desperate enough to stick it in some whale.

Post: #18

(04-01-2013 09:48 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  There is a guy who probably has one of the highest notch counts of anyone I know, he is from Alaska, about 6 ft. 3 in., athletic build, and a lot of girls find him to be handsome. This guy probably has had sex with over 300 girls, but I am amazed by how low his standards are. If I had to guess and from what I've seen at least half his bangs are with girls that are 5's. I have known him to repeatedly bang girls that most guys would rate in the 4 range.

Well last Thurs. when I was at the bar, I see dude make out with and go home with a beastly girl that most guys would probably rate a 3. This girl was not only fat, but ugly, and mannish in appearance. I guess there is no moral to this story, and my friend is atypical, and since he comes from Alaska, I think a lot of that contributes to his lack of standard, especially considering he gets shit faced drunk too.

Anyways, it's just amazing how some guys will go from filet mingon to hamburger helper with no qualms. I mean I have been guilty of picking low hanging fruit, which I have recently written about on the forum, but I do maintain some level of standards and self-dignity. When a guy hits a low patch and lowers his standards, it should be a means to an end so to speak, to end a brutal dry spell and begin to pull himself out of a rut. I don't think it's cool when a guy makes a habit of doing this, and is only acceptable in dire situations.

A lot of guys are just straight up thirsty these days, and I do agree with Sharky's post about dudes being lazy too. For a large percentage of guys pick up is becoming a major hassle, with little rewards, for guys who do pick up regularly, it can be hard locking down a cool, loyal, and fun chick, who isn't a total bitch or wannabe female player. Now I speak solely coming from my own perspective, so take it with a grain of salt.

All I know is that the game has it's highs and it's lows, but I just can't see myself fucking nasty fat girls on the regular. At that point, I'd rather just move to Thailand or Brazil and do P4P for the rest of my life.

Interesting post. A guy that's tall and good-looking who was willing to bang girls under a 5 could literally be drowning in pussy. I'm not surprised at all by his 300+ notch count. There are tons of guys who take the attitude of "pussy is pussy." As long as she's got a warm, slimy hole to stick it in they are good to go.

As to the black dude's issue mentioned up above, a lot of brothas unfortunately just don't have any standards. Remember those hoodrats from that World Star Hiphop video?



Well, they all had kids running around. Some dude knocked them up. Somebody was able to get an erection for those bitches and bust a nut in them. What does that tell you?

America is no poosy paradise for the average man.

Post: #19

(04-02-2013 03:02 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 09:48 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  There is a guy who probably has one of the highest notch counts of anyone I know, he is from Alaska, about 6 ft. 3 in., athletic build, and a lot of girls find him to be handsome. This guy probably has had sex with over 300 girls, but I am amazed by how low his standards are. If I had to guess and from what I've seen at least half his bangs are with girls that are 5's. I have known him to repeatedly bang girls that most guys would rate in the 4 range.

Well last Thurs. when I was at the bar, I see dude make out with and go home with a beastly girl that most guys would probably rate a 3. This girl was not only fat, but ugly, and mannish in appearance. I guess there is no moral to this story, and my friend is atypical, and since he comes from Alaska, I think a lot of that contributes to his lack of standard, especially considering he gets shit faced drunk too.

Anyways, it's just amazing how some guys will go from filet mingon to hamburger helper with no qualms. I mean I have been guilty of picking low hanging fruit, which I have recently written about on the forum, but I do maintain some level of standards and self-dignity. When a guy hits a low patch and lowers his standards, it should be a means to an end so to speak, to end a brutal dry spell and begin to pull himself out of a rut. I don't think it's cool when a guy makes a habit of doing this, and is only acceptable in dire situations.

A lot of guys are just straight up thirsty these days, and I do agree with Sharky's post about dudes being lazy too. For a large percentage of guys pick up is becoming a major hassle, with little rewards, for guys who do pick up regularly, it can be hard locking down a cool, loyal, and fun chick, who isn't a total bitch or wannabe female player. Now I speak solely coming from my own perspective, so take it with a grain of salt.

All I know is that the game has it's highs and it's lows, but I just can't see myself fucking nasty fat girls on the regular. At that point, I'd rather just move to Thailand or Brazil and do P4P for the rest of my life.

Interesting post. A guy that's tall and good-looking who was willing to bang girls under a 5 could literally be drowning in pussy. I'm not surprised at all by his 300+ notch count. There are tons of guys who take the attitude of "pussy is pussy." As long as she's got a warm, slimy hole to stick it in they are good to go.

I know tons of guys like this as well, that have really high notch counts but will fuck just about anything. Some of my boys, one night you'll see them going home with a 4, and other nights you'll see them taking home a 9. The 9 are rarer obviously and 5s are more common. Their average bang would probably fall in the 5 range, but they are also capable of pulling some high quality ass.

Post: #20

I've met plenty of dudes who's attitude definitely was "pussy is pussy." It usually stems from not wanting to work hard at getting pussy, but I have also met dudes who for whatever reason (high testosterone?) don't care about the quality they bang.

Post: #21

(04-02-2013 04:10 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  I've met plenty of dudes who's attitude definitely was "pussy is pussy." It usually stems from not wanting to work hard at getting pussy, but I have also met dudes who for whatever reason (high testosterone?) don't care about the quality they bang.

"Pussy is pussy" the ultimate de-pedestalization. A 2/10 would not bang or HB10 is just pussy. Every thing else is ego and hamsterism.

Post: #22

Back when I was in high school some six years ago, I tried to fuck a fat girl. But it just wasn't happening, my dick couldn't get hard and I found myself increasingly disgusted by the thought of it with each passing minute. So I made up an excuse and got the hell out of there and have never thought about doing something so repulsive again.

I don't think it's so much a black male thing as much as it is an American male thing. Dudes in this country are desperate and will take any piece of pussy they can get -even if it is from the most hideous woman. It's a sign of the times in our great country, people.

With that said, I think every man, including myself, has banged a chick that he wasn't particularly attracted to at one point or another.

Post: #23

This is the fundamental difference between the sexes. We can afford to broadcast our sperm hither and yon, to every larded up Lena Dunham lookalike we want, if we so choose. But there's hardly a woman alive who would say dick is dick and have sex with any guy. Especially in the days before the pill.

Still, we all have our limits. Even guys who screw fat chicks - it's less a matter that fat doesn't matter to them that their threshold is higher. A guy who sleeps with 200 lb. orcas he meets at the local Chilis wouldn't touch a 450 lb. woman stuck in bed on disability for life.

Post: #24

Quote:200 lb. orcas

Post: #25

(04-02-2013 09:48 AM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

(04-02-2013 04:10 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  I've met plenty of dudes who's attitude definitely was "pussy is pussy." It usually stems from not wanting to work hard at getting pussy, but I have also met dudes who for whatever reason (high testosterone?) don't care about the quality they bang.

"Pussy is pussy" the ultimate de-pedestalization. A 2/10 would not bang or HB10 is just pussy. Every thing else is ego and hamsterism.