Post: #1

Looks like the first batch of women aren't even able to endure the training:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/...ourse?lite

Political correctness can't overcome nature.

One honest female in the military is willing to tell the truth :

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/...ficer?lite

Quote:As one female Marine told msnbc.com, "No one questions why there aren't any females in the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. Olympic athletes are the elite of the elite. No one questions why the women compete against women and men against men. Those are great sports and achievements. But lives and missions aren't on the line. In our world, if you move slower one day, you don't get bumped off the medal stand, you could die or get someone else killed."

Post: #2

Never fear! They will simply lower the standards. Granted they will probably fail that too.

Post: #3

this woman´s hamster at the end suggests that there is no logical reason to exclude women from infantry, special opps.

Post: #4

I suspect that if we ever have another serous war, this little experiment will be scrapped. In Israel they tried something similar, and found that women generally performed horribly in the field of combat, and they now just have them as logistical support to ground units and as guards on borders.

See below:

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013...s-military

Quote:Women now serve alongside men in special "Karakal" units that combine the sexes, largely used to guard the Israeli border with Egypt.

Post: #5

Look at them! How cute!!! Playing soldier at the taxpayer's expense:



These G.I. Jane wannabes can't even hold their assault rifles properly.

Post: #6

Why are these women so obsessed with this type of shit? You would think they would be smart enough to sit back and not complain while guys do the dirty work.

Post: #7

(03-29-2013 07:46 PM)houston Wrote:  Why are these women so obsessed with this type of shit? You would think they would be smart enough to sit back and not complain while guys do the dirty work.

Did women 50 years ago even want to be on the battlefield? It's like anything men do, even if it's something shitty they want to do it too just to prove their equality. They constantly got something to prove.

I think Western women are basically bored and must constantly come up with new battles to fight and new frontiers to cross just to say they did it lest they get restless.

Post: #8

These Women's minds are diseased.

Post: #9

(03-29-2013 08:01 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  Did women 50 years ago even want to be on the battlefield? It's like anything men do, even if it's something shitty they want to do it too just to prove their equality. They constantly got something to prove.

Except study or work on STEM fields.

Post: #10

(03-29-2013 09:25 PM)soup Wrote:  These Women's minds are diseased.

My how times have changed..

Post: #11

Shit thats an effective poster. Something like that would never be allowed nowadays.

Post: #12

(03-29-2013 08:01 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(03-29-2013 07:46 PM)houston Wrote:  Why are these women so obsessed with this type of shit? You would think they would be smart enough to sit back and not complain while guys do the dirty work.

Did women 50 years ago even want to be on the battlefield? It's like anything men do, even if it's something shitty they want to do it too just to prove their equality. They constantly got something to prove.

I think Western women are basically bored and must constantly come up with new battles to fight and new frontiers to cross just to say they did it lest they get restless.

I think they just mindlessly parrot feminist bullshit.
I was with my family the other day, watching a TV report on some ski resort and guys securing the tracks, preventing avalanches and whatnot. These are men working heavy machinery and doing a tough job there were only men working that job. My mum and sister started going off on how about its "sexist" and there should be women there. I nearly lost my shit and asked them if they would even want to do such a shitty job (my mum and sis both work in offices shuffling papers). Of course they didnt but still women should have the opportunity blablabla.

We watched the segment because my sister was filmed when she was there on vacation participating in a ski class. She was on tape being a total bitch to the ski instructor, showing no respect whatsoever. My mum basically encouraged it "you go grrrl!!". Again they went on about how the instructor was "sexist" for some nonsense reason.

It made me really sad to see this disease contaminating even my own family.

Post: #13

We had a stupid news article today in the college paper about self defense, and of course the focus of the entire thing was women and their fixation on "being attacked". Bitch, please. Men get physically victimized at a rate of probably 5 to 1 when it comes to getting your ass beaten into the ground. Even when you hand a woman a gun and tell her she's a police officer, homicidal criminals avoid treating them like they're men (killing them).

I laughed reading about every single girl interviewed - who did three classes of "cardio kick-boxing" and could now fend off attackers with "they're called feet and fists". Good thing there's not an actual rape culture with that kind of dumb ass attitude prevalent.

Post: #14

Women are all for being in the military while we are fighting these "low intensity, proxy, 4th Generational wars," which are wars only in the loosest since of the term. I don't recall women crying about not being able to go off in the Jungle in 'Nam. Plus women occupy mostly cushy lower risk type jobs, so they (even the nasty disgusting ones) get hit on/gawked at endlessly by Joe at the chow hall or at Green Beans (coffee shop chain on U.S. bases in Iraq/Afghan for those of you not familiar with them). Even when they do go out on mission they are some protected asset (FET, etc) and do little of the actual grunt work.

If there was a real war (i.e. vs. Russia/China/NK, etc) with 5000+ killed per month rather than over a ten year period, I'd wager you'd stop hearing about women wanting to serve in the military.

Post: #15

(03-29-2013 03:22 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  Looks like the first batch of women aren't even able to endure the training:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/...ourse?lite

Political correctness can't overcome nature.

One honest female in the military is willing to tell the truth :

Actually I commented on this on another blog. None have made it through Combat Infantry Officers Training in Quantico. This is the second attempt. There were two others in the prior class. And two in this class. 3 washed out in first week, 1 lasted into the second week but had to quit because of injury. The obstacle course seems to be the killer. Here are photos of it.

http://www.jpshouse.com/usmc.htm

The report I read said 1 out of 4 entrants wash out. But that means 3 out of 4 actually get through it. And in my personal opinion, the course is doable for most men that can curl about 60 pounds, military press 85 pounds, aren't fat such that their upper body strength is low relative to their overall weight. It is probably easier if you are 5'10 or above and weigh less than 200 pounds. Like ideal would be 5"10 175.

12 guys washed out out of 120. So more than 90% make it through the first week. And I bet 4 or 5 of those 12 men got injured, bad sprains, broken ankle. And I think some just say "Screw this". And opt for a desk job instead of infantry. You need to be in infantry at some point in your career in the Marines to be a general or climb up in rank. So some go just because they think they need to, then change their mind when they get there.

I was in the Marines and I never thought any training I ever did was so difficult. If you ever played high school football, the Marines are easier, just longer days.

Here is another photo of the obstacle course.

http://www.mca-marines.org/mcaToday/imag...winner.gif

You can see the guys in the photo are older. And that course is one of many on Quantico. And all follow the same spec, same layout. Obviously it is tradition among Marine officers. The guys in the photo come back to run it for workouts. And to let younger Marines know they can still run it.

The article I read said that there 5 more women that will attend the next course in the summer. And I am sure that they are going over to those courses before hand with coaches to try to teach them to get through it and not freak when they are faced with it and the men are moving through it with no issue and people are cheering, instructors are screaming, and the stopwatch is on.

And when a woman finally gets through even the obstacle course and makes it even into week 2, it will be all over the news, Danica Patrick style. Never mind that in the same time frame that 9 others washed out, 225 men made it through the whole course.

We'll see if it gets dumbed down. The Marines are real slow about stuff like that but when Congress puts pressure on them then it changes things. Before I went to boot camp in 1973, drill instructors used to hit recruits. Ermy punched Joker in the stomach in Full Metal Jacket. My neighbor went through in 1971 and he said they did it then. But some trials happened and charges were leveled and I never saw anything like that. And the older guys talked about how soft I had it. My days were 5am to 9pm 7 days a week. I heard they cut it down to 6 pm and put TV in the barracks after I got out. I was astounded. Fucking TV? And every successive era of the Marines all claims how soft it was getting compared to the "Old Corps" when they went to boot camp or OCS. "I hear you pukes get room service and silk pajamas in your boot camp now" would be something older Marines say to younger ones.

In a way, I feel like a member of the Miami Dolphins that had an undefeated season all the way through the super bowl. And every time the final team in a season gets beat and doesn't threaten their record, they all celebrate. So when I see news like this that women wash out and none get through, I feel the same way. I so want them all to fail.

Post: #16

This stands to reason. And even if you put aside the strength and endurance issues (which are the whole point), studies have shown women don't bounce back as quick as men from physical injury.

Here's a link to the New York Times article from 2008 about this as it related to teenage girls who play sports. It's a blue pill article that gingerly pussyfoots around the subject but makes its point. Sample sentence: "PARENTS OF TEENAGE GIRLS who play sports have grown accustomed to what seems like entire teams battling injuries..."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/magazi...d=all&_r=0

Post: #17

(03-30-2013 06:20 AM)Hades Wrote:  We had a stupid news article today in the college paper about self defense, and of course the focus of the entire thing was women and their fixation on "being attacked". Bitch, please. Men get physically victimized at a rate of probably 5 to 1 when it comes to getting your ass beaten into the ground. Even when you hand a woman a gun and tell her she's a police officer, homicidal criminals avoid treating them like they're men (killing them).

I laughed reading about every single girl interviewed - who did three classes of "cardio kick-boxing" and could now fend off attackers with "they're called feet and fists". Good thing there's not an actual rape culture with that kind of dumb ass attitude prevalent.

It's funny that women are so obsessed about "rape culture". It's even more funny that they actually think they can handle a grown man in a fight or attack.

Post: #18

(03-30-2013 06:41 PM)houston Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 06:20 AM)Hades Wrote:  We had a stupid news article today in the college paper about self defense, and of course the focus of the entire thing was women and their fixation on "being attacked". Bitch, please. Men get physically victimized at a rate of probably 5 to 1 when it comes to getting your ass beaten into the ground. Even when you hand a woman a gun and tell her she's a police officer, homicidal criminals avoid treating them like they're men (killing them).

I laughed reading about every single girl interviewed - who did three classes of "cardio kick-boxing" and could now fend off attackers with "they're called feet and fists". Good thing there's not an actual rape culture with that kind of dumb ass attitude prevalent.

It's funny that women are so obsessed about "rape culture". It's even more funny that they actually think they can handle a grown man in a fight or attack.

The only women who can are like fully trained female mma fighters/bjj women. I say this having grappled with bb females, they'll tool you until you know what you're doing.

Post: #19

2/10 WNB.

   

Post: #20

(03-30-2013 09:07 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  This stands to reason. And even if you put aside the strength and endurance issues (which are the whole point), studies have shown women don't bounce back as quick as men from physical injury.

Here's a link to the New York Times article from 2008 about this as it related to teenage girls who play sports. It's a blue pill article that gingerly pussyfoots around the subject but makes its point. Sample sentence: "PARENTS OF TEENAGE GIRLS who play sports have grown accustomed to what seems like entire teams battling injuries..."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/magazi...d=all&_r=0

Read the article, it's really interesting.
I saw the same thing about injury response and being foolish as hell with pretty much all women's sports.

Really if they wanted to prevent like 80% of stupid injuries they could give me all the money they'd pay for surgeries and I could figure it out.

It's very simple, you make them soccer practice at least twice a week without shoes, and you make them squat two to three times a week, every week, even off season.
Fixes all of their gait issues with pain and it gives their ligaments a good reason to get stronger. That takes care of literally everything.

(03-30-2013 06:41 PM)houston Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 06:20 AM)Hades Wrote:  We had a stupid news article today in the college paper about self defense, and of course the focus of the entire thing was women and their fixation on "being attacked". Bitch, please. Men get physically victimized at a rate of probably 5 to 1 when it comes to getting your ass beaten into the ground. Even when you hand a woman a gun and tell her she's a police officer, homicidal criminals avoid treating them like they're men (killing them).

I laughed reading about every single girl interviewed - who did three classes of "cardio kick-boxing" and could now fend off attackers with "they're called feet and fists". Good thing there's not an actual rape culture with that kind of dumb ass attitude prevalent.

It's funny that women are so obsessed about "rape culture". It's even more funny that they actually think they can handle a grown man in a fight or attack.

True that.

Post: #21

"Well I'm not surprised that shit is hard as fuck 4 anyone, but I also think that just cuz u can run fast & do a million pull ups doesn't really help u in combat, u can b strong & physically fit but if u r put in certain circumstances when shit goes down in war u don't know how u will react & who is to say the guy with the best pft score won't freeze up & run away or whatever. & they act like woman never been I'm combat b4...not true I was on the front lines leading infantry patrols cuz I had a specialty job, it's just certain "jobs" females were never allowed to go 4. But to say that just cuz a chick can't do 30 pull-ups doesn't say that she won't react & save ur ass when shit gets real out in war."

I texted that article to my home girl who has a Purple Heart. She actually was out in Iraq. That's her response.

Post: #22

(03-29-2013 08:01 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(03-29-2013 07:46 PM)houston Wrote:  Why are these women so obsessed with this type of shit? You would think they would be smart enough to sit back and not complain while guys do the dirty work.

Did women 50 years ago even want to be on the battlefield? It's like anything men do, even if it's something shitty they want to do it too just to prove their equality. They constantly got something to prove.

I think Western women are basically bored and must constantly come up with new battles to fight and new frontiers to cross just to say they did it lest they get restless.

Have you ever taken care of a child? They want to do what they see the adults doing because they aren't smart enough to appreciate their limitations. It is the same case here. The problem isn't women or their inferiority. It is men wanting to pretend women are equal and changing society to support this delusion. I'm sure I could give a 10 year old keys to the car and he'd try to drive it. The resulting accident would be my fault not his.

Post: #23

From a person in a military position.

I don't think women should be in combat.
I even know a couple girls that can outscore me on the PT test. but I wouldnt trust them in combat.
They are all small...like children..yea..50 push ups is easy when you are barely 100 pounds.
sure you can run a 13 minute 2 mile..cause you ran cross country in high school.
But why are you complaining when you have to wear a 40 pound backpack and walk 5 miles? all of a sudden..now you cant take the weight.

"you was talking all this good shit a just a minute ago"

One girl that is hated by everyone. has the intelligence..but pretty much falls out of every run..she can barely run 3 miles..but has been on the top team for 2 years. no one knows how.

sure..dozens of guys wash out of military training school also...but that doesnt mean that women should pick up the slack.

Post: #24

(03-30-2013 08:40 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  "Well I'm not surprised that shit is hard as fuck 4 anyone, but I also think that just cuz u can run fast & do a million pull ups doesn't really help u in combat, u can b strong & physically fit but if u r put in certain circumstances when shit goes down in war u don't know how u will react & who is to say the guy with the best pft score won't freeze up & run away or whatever. & they act like woman never been I'm combat b4...not true I was on the front lines leading infantry patrols cuz I had a specialty job, it's just certain "jobs" females were never allowed to go 4. But to say that just cuz a chick can't do 30 pull-ups doesn't say that she won't react & save ur ass when shit gets real out in war."

I texted that article to my home girl who has a Purple Heart. She actually was out in Iraq. That's her response.

The hamster is strong in your girl. I would estimate less than 1 out of 1000 females will refrain from panicking at the sound of gunfire.

Post: #25

I have no problem with women in combat. Just as long as there's segregation by gender.

So, they should form female battalions, and they should operate independently from male battalions. Women-only infantry units should rely on women-only logistics, women-only air support, and women-only medevac helicopters.

Once we start hearing stories of all-women infantry platoons being slaughtered, once we see images of their bloodied corpses on Al Jazeera, I will be curious to see if them female "warriors" are still interested in playing soldier.

Heck, this could even be beneficial to society: it would remove seriously demented females from the gene pool before they procreate.