Post: #26

It's all Boner Test for me.

Post: #27

How much is your time worth? Lots of other things to do in life rather than gaming a 4

I try not to game mediocre girls anymore because the process itself is not fun and if for whatever reason I don't fuck them (bad luck / logistics / whatever), then it was a frustrating waste of time

Heck I hardly even like gaming girls in English because I'd rather practice a language and hit two birds with one stone

Post: #28

I don't know, as you get older you'll value your time more. You bang a beast and basically you're going to start to think... was that worth it? Or should I have just beat off instead? I recommend beating off. Quicker, no pregnancy, nonsense, and hit up quality chicks. There are enough of them. Improve your game, life, etc.

Post: #29

(03-24-2013 01:39 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Lowering one's standards is a tough case, but it's a situation where every man has to decide for himself. It basically boils down to how horny you are and how long it's been since your last bang.

Last night, I dropped my standards very low, I fucked a pudgy chick who was basically a "5" for my town. I can't say I really felt great about it, but I was on a dry spell and basically needed to get my nut off to "re-set" the clock. It was hard wanting to stay with the chick at the bar, she was the first and only girl I opened, when I sat down on the stool next to her to order a drink.

There were other way cuter girls and my eyes started to wander, but this chick was at least cool and investing a lot into the conversation and dropping innuendos that made her seem DTF. I almost passed her off to my buddy who is older, overweight, and has much lower standards, but decided to stick with it to keep the option for the bang open.

I have to admit I was a little selfconcious, not that she was a hideous beast, but I usually only target 7+ chicks, and I did feel like I was getting looked at and observed by other people in the bar. I certainly made sure to not make out with her in public or be seen running "hard game" and using lot's of kino. One dude I know who is actually one of the better players in this town that I know pulls talent, came up to me to say what up and had a huge shit eating grin on his face, I guess he knew what was up, and while I'd like to be representing with something better, everyone dumpster dives from time to time.

So what was the verdict, basically I just chilled to last call, I figured I'd toss an easy "lay up" and if she wasn't DTF than it was "win-win" because I wasn't that attracted to her anyway. I basically said, "hey the bar is closing, let's go somewhere else to hang out some more". She was like "okay, I'm down, let's go to my place". I waited till we exited the bar and rounded the corner, than I kissed her.

She only lived literally a one minute walk away from the bar, we did some making out on the couch, I pulled my dick out, got some super passive LMR, then we bounced to the bedroom. I got to say I wasn't really feeling her body, she was pretty frump and had a little ponche, gross right? On the bright side she gave some gnarly head, complied to lick my balls, and was motivated enough to give good enough head that I fucked her a second time. Bitch loved the dick so much, that she even gave me head a 3 time and swallowed the nut on the last one.

Sorry for the dirty details, today I am kind of feeling neutral, I'm certainly not stoked, but I'm not feeling as regretful and shameful for banging a chunker as I thought I would. Basically, I got that shit out of my system, and won't be trying to pick low hanging fruit again anytime soon. But with everything in life, there is a time and place, if you are really "hungry" and haven't been fed any "naan" in a while, than some low hanging fruit may be the answer to quenching that aching thirst.

The chunk that I fucked last night, seemed to really like me, I guess I am better looking than her on the 10 scale and have a big dick, but I think I will have to kibosh that one for good. It may be hard in the weeks to come though, because I know that I could basically call her up, have her come over to my spot to give me gnarly head and I would have to put absolutely no work into it.

Now that I got it out of my system, it's time to work my way back up the totem pole so to speak. Sometimes though, it's nice to pick some easy low hanging fruit that doesn't require much work or hassle, having run around in circle like a hamster in a hamster wheel trying to get at 8+ chicks for the last couple months, probably aided my readiness to just fuck something incredibly easy. Any how from meet to fuck it was probably 2 hours with that chick, and the fact that I got no shit tests, resistance, she lived 1 minute from the bar, and I got gnarly head and ball play, in the end made it worth it.

Post: #30

All this talk of the boner test reminded me of this:

Post: #31

No one can really answer this question but you. It goes in cycles for me. If it's been a few weeks and I'm training nearly every day and lifting 3x a week if a piece of low hanging fruit comes around, I'll probably hit. Easy sex is a weakness for me.

I was chatting up this chubby eastern European girl today. She wasn't that good, chunky, so so face, etc. I had no intention of talking to her until I looked down at her ass which was nice. All of sudden my dick sprung into action...and I wanted to suddenly bang this girl who wasn't good looking at all. I'm not sure what causes this reaction, but it happens from time to time.

Post: #32

A very good article on why you should lower your standards:

http://www.girlschase.com/content/lower-...ter-girls?

Quote:Men in the "Dark Triad" of narcissism, psychopathy, and Machiavellianism - those individuals who are incredibly charming, charismatic, seductive, and powerful, but also manipulative, egoistic, and unempathetic - have the lowest short-term standards of all men, aimed squarely at maximizing their short-term mating potential.

So we have:

Regular guys: highest short-term mating standards
Men with high confidence / high self-esteem: lower short-term mating standards
Dark Triad men: lowest short-term mating standards
The correlation across the research appears to be this:

The more highly a man thinks of himself, the lower his standards go for short-term mating partners becomes.
...

Men who are sexually inexperienced and unconfident are assessing every woman they talk to as a GIRLFRIEND.

Because women are such scarce resources for them - because they are so far from an abundance mentality - their brains are looking at every girl they meet and thinking, "What if we have sex and then start dating and then I'm stuck with her?"

Or, they think to themselves, "Oh man, she's not even that cute... do I really want to spend weeks or months chasing after her, hours on the phone talking to her, endless texting conversations with her, and all that just to sleep with this not-that-cute girl?"
When you're sexually experienced and confident, your brain does not think that way at ALL.

When you're sexually experienced and sexually confident, you know that:

No girl is going to rope you into a relationship unless that's what you want

You have your choice of what women you'll sleep with and what women you'll date

It's not going to take a whole lot of time or energy for you to get a girl in bed - it's going to be fast and nearly effortless
Sleeping with girls is just sleeping with girls, and it's nothing more than that

Put another way, when you're unconfident and inexperienced with women and dating, everything's a big deal for you. Everything feels like a major investment, because, in a way, it is.

An inexperienced man, conversely:

Doesn't know how to avoid relationships he doesn't want

Lives in a world where women are scarce and he has difficulty letting any woman go once he's got her (or is "working on" her)
Has to put a great deal of time and energy into any girl he hopes to get

Makes sleeping with girls a very big deal

And what do you do when something's a big deal?

You up your standards, to make sure the time, energy, and effort you put in isn't going to be for naught.

The reason why sexually experienced and confident men lower their standards for short-term mating is as simple as this: because it's easier for them.

Post: #33

You Think you are Entitled to that 4. 'She would be honored to suck my cock'. This is one of the misconceptions a lot of guys have.

Well try it and report it back. Don't get mad if you get show down by her as well.

Post: #34

either improve your game or lower your standards, up to you.

Post: #35

When you first start out, your standards should definitely be on the low side, get expeience banging some dragons, make mistakes, because you could give two shits less, shes busted. Once you get some experience under you belt, you can deliver when a better looking girl that comes your way, and have her come back for more. At the same time, dont be afraid to make mistakes with better looking women when they do come your way.

I am no where near the notch count as some of these legends on the forum, but I will say that my desire to bang 6's and less is almost non existent. Dont get me wrong, I will take home a 6 if its a ONS if I havent found anything better, but I will not take numbers of 6's and pursue them.

I feel that I am out of their league, and they dont deserve to hook up with me, and I in fact have this feeling of under-achievement when I hook up with a not so attractive female. Quality pussy is just so much better in my opinion, and boosts my confidence, while hooking up with busted chicks has the opposite effect.

Post: #36

Banging chicks you're not attracted to will fuck with your self-estem don't do it unless it a one off.

Post: #37

(01-01-2015 07:41 PM)Ryan James Wrote:  Banging chicks you're not attracted to will fuck with your self-estem don't do it unless it a one off.

This is debatable and I have a story that I want to share. A few nights ago, I was posted up at a bar. A girl approached me. She had an uglier face than any girl a I had ever banged, and I've been at this for decades. Her body looked at least decent. After a few minutes of her talking to me, I wasn't really showing a lot of interest and she walked away. She then came back about fifteen minutes later and invited me to join her and her friends. I somewhat reluctantly agreed to join them. I was standing at a table between the girl who approached me and her sister. Her sister was shorter, younger, and more attractive. Definitely bangable. Both of these girls were showing tons of interest and I was thinking that a threesome was a distinct possibility. When the venue closed, these girls invited me to go to another venue with them. At this point, I guess the girl who approached me's sister picked up her purse upside down and a package of tampons fell out. I started making some mala semana jokes, which a few people, including the girl with the period, heard and started laughing about. It was obvious then that a threesome was out of the question and that I needed to focus on the girl who originally approached me. At the second venue, we had a few drinks and the girl who approached me before asked if we could bounce to my apartment. When we got there, she immediately took off her clothes and we started going at it. She had the nicest set of tits I have ever seen on a human. The rest of her body was also impressive. We has sex for a few hours before she fell asleep and again after she woke up. She had the best sex skills of any girl I have ever been with, including strippers. She is also better than many porn stars I have watched. I really enjoyed the experience and all this was from a girl who I wasn't attracted to. My guess is that because her face isn't attractive, she has to overcompensate for it by being really agressive with guys, being very well behaved, and having great sex skills.