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Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
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Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
The early seeds of red pill were planted in me before i stumbled upon great websites like this in the manosphere. while we already have a great thread for red pill films, i would like this thread to focus on other influences which set the seeds to your own red pill awakening.

thinking back i have to give credit to several celebrities.

hunter s. thompson - anyone who has read his work can attest that this guy lived life on his own terms and his existence even up to his death was testament to that.
"America... a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable." - Hunter S. Thompson




george carlin- always brilliant social commentary that through humor made me question society and the glaring flaws within it.




doug stanhope- another brilliant comic who like carlin helped me critically look at the values and culture of american society.




tom leykis- he is a radio dj who makes content that is almost entirely pro male. he took a break from radio and now can be heard on http://www.blowmeuptom.com



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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
I dated this chick for 2 years from 18 to 20. I thought "Fuck, if this is love, I want nothing to do with it."

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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
Probably all the stupid shit I got in trouble for in junior high, high school, and college.

Things that would have been glossed over and not really worried about in a "boys will be boys" type culture.

I'm talking about relatively innocent stuff like walking down the wrong hallway in junior high, playing beer pong with the bros, or getting into mostly harmless fights.

I also told off my fatass 7th probably lesbian grade math teacher for constantly jabbering her projected maternal feelings of failure onto her nephew during class. I shit you not, this bitch would rant about her nephew for a good twenty, maybe thirty minutes at the start of every class. I raised my hand during one of her shitty diatribes and I said "Teach the class". About half the class laughed hysterically and the other half of the class looked around with somewhat worried expressions because they didn't want to actually accomplish anything during class. That didn't land me a detention, but she was a real bitch from that day forward.

They really shit on boys because they're a bit harder to contain. I fucking hated school and, for the most part, I still do.

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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
The first collection of knowledge about game and gender/social dynamics that I was exposed to was this site that was passed around between the boys in high school.

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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
Tucker Max.

I can't speak as to the validity of all the stories, but regardless, it appears as if he lived by his own rules and got laid a lot in the process. Back then, I couldn't believe how I, a nice, considerate, supplicating guy wasn't getting as much out of life as this crude, vulgar, narcissist.

Now, I understand it completely.

"Despite their numbers, their pussyness means I was barely hurt. 2 black eyes and a cut nose, no big deal. I could sense the fear in them so as they were walking I chased them down and told them to "go home". They all left like little girls." - Revelations 21:4
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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
Swingers was one of the first.



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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
Early seasons of the simpsons where homers work/life balance is explored. I was under ten, and seriously thought i dont have to settle for that.

Blogger johnny b truant has a post called 'why the universe doesnt give a flying fuck about you' and a free book called how to be legendary which explores the disgusting mediocrity and misery within society and that disobeying is in ur interests, hes pretty g rated though.
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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
The grandpa from "Little Miss Sunshine":

Grandpa: Fuck a lot of women, kid. I have no reason to lie to you. Not one woman. A lot of women. You heard what I said? Did it go in anywhere?

http://www.hark.com/clips/sjlyrxcyjc-fuc...t-of-women

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4 hour work week / Mid 2000s online marketing culture turned me on to the quest for location independent income.

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A mom that was a good stay at home housewife for at least the first 20 years it lasted. I was always vocally anti-feminist and I didn't even know why (I'd get in heated debates with a male highschool English teacher in 2002 trying to cram feminism down our throats), but I think it's because of my mom. Thinking back, I also got a lot of hate from the girls in that class (even the hot ones) -- just made me realize that this shit has been mainstream for a long time.

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Some forum I saw in 2004-2005 called VIP something or other with a focus on guys trying to bank hard and lay guides. Never got around to reading it it much but thinking of it 6 years later is what prompted me to break off a stupid LTR and search for something similar, which eventually led me to RSD and then to here.
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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
The book Walden.

American Beauty was one of the first red-pill movies I remembered.

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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
David Deida "The Way of the Superior Man".
02-25-2013 08:43 AM
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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
(02-25-2013 08:34 AM)Roosh Wrote:  American Beauty was one of the first red-pill movies I remembered.

I echo this. I was only about 14 when it came out, and I probably saw it on DVD a year later, but I remember thinking it explored something profound. I suppose it was MGTOW.

Fight Club, well, the first half of the movie, also made me think about things differently. Again, I was about 15-16 when I saw it.

Aside from that, player friends. I used to diss them being their back's for being horrible to girls and saying how I couldn't understand what girls saw in them. I don't see much of many of them anymore, but I am still friends with one. Ironically, he's settling down now and can't believe how much I approach etc. I should really introduce them to the manosphere, although, like a lot of 'naturals', he isn't particularly intellectually inclined.

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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
A big influence on me has being listening to Opie And Anthony discuss their terrible marriages:





For me - Tom Leykis and Patrice O'Neal have being big influences as well.

But until about 5 years ago - I must have being fairly blue pill looking back on it.
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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
I was a late bloomer but popular atheists like Sam Harris, Hitchens Dawkins. My sister becoming a slut (former goodey, homely book worm) also changed me and college in general.
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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
James Bond, anyone? Cool

Reading MAD Magazine at a very young age made me a young cynic, suspicious of how people's minds worked, but never bitter. Catcher in the Rye, too.

And American Beauty, yes, but I was pretty much red pill at that point without knowing the term.

Also, I recently ran into a short story I'd read in high school -- "A&P" by John Updike. My first exposure to the futility of white knight thinking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26P_(story)
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RE: Before the full awakening, who were your first red pill influences?
Go up to most blue-pill guys and ask them what is most important to them in a woman. They will list some PC bullshit - with looks being fairly low down on the list.

Now - they are lying to themselves but don't know it yet because of how brainwashed they are by society.

It was an important moment for me when I was honest with myself, and decided I couldn't give a shit about a girl about anything. Apart from how good she looks. That is the only thing on my list.

Yet - most guys are conditioned to try and be more 'open-minded' and say that they look for a whole bunch of different characteristics.

And besides - who gives a fuck about a girl's personality. If she is interacting with you she has to buy into your 'frame' or she can fuck off. Her personality shouldn't be of any concern since her wants and desires should be secondary to your own. It is a bit mad but women prefer guys like that. It makes them feel secure apparently. So - it is a win-win really.

It is amazing how we can go against out true nature and lie to ourselves. The only thing I regret is that I was stuck in that blue-pill mode of thinking when I was a teenager.

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