Post: #1

So, the standard PUA advice is that using a direct opener (one where you give away your interest when you open her- like "hey, you're cute so I thought I'd come say hi"- is something of a roll of the dice based on your looks. Here in the US, I usually stay away from direct openers.

I'm wondering if it would work better in Latin America, because over there a gringo is more exotic, and because is the culture is more used to people showing interest.

If you do direct, how would you do it en espanol? I'm thinking something like "Tengo que platicar contigo porque tus ojos son muy bonitos."

Post: #2

"hola, me interesa mucho conocerte"

Post: #3

Dude you can def. say more shit about "sexy, bonita, blah blah" when you first meet a Latina and they won't be offended, because after all that is what Latin dudes do. I for one recomend you don't do that though.

One of the reasons these women find Gringos a little more attrractive (asside from the fact we look new to them) is that we are generally more polite to women. Now I'm not suggesting that you be a beta fag, but just act as if you really are only interested to find a location on your map or a good place for a cold beer. This will show her you are friendly and not just trying to pick up, but also if she is sexy, she will be curious why you didn't just call her sexy or fine in your first opening line, like 90% of all latin men do.

Post: #4

I'd like to try this one if she's walkin down the street "De(s)pacio, de(s)pacio..." if she does "...como te voy a conocer andando tan rapido asi?" then go from there
Have fun with that

Post: #5

You can always be successful in latin america being direct. That is the norm, plus your exotic, so it will definitely be effective. However, your quality will be limited with that strategy. I would agree with rocco with making the hot chicks wonder why you aren't all over them. Just appear as if you are more concerned with the environment and you just want to have a good time.

Post: #6

Sorry for bumping this old thread but this is a really good question. Any guys who have been to Latin America know what's best to use? I usually do direct approaches in Mexico because I like it when the girls blush. Anyone else think differently? Do you go indirect or direct in Latin America?

Post: #7

Im living in L.America now and I too agree with whats been said before. Yes direct openers are possible here and they can lead to succes, but your still putting the girl on a pedestral. Better to act normal, display value yourself and then the hot girl will be even more interested in the gringo who shows that he is a confident and classy man who does not seem to be needy for her beauty.

Post: #8

(05-25-2010 12:46 PM)Rocco81 Wrote:  Dude you can def. say more shit about "sexy, bonita, blah blah" when you first meet a Latina and they won't be offended, because after all that is what Latin dudes do. I for one recomend you don't do that though...but also if she is sexy, she will be curious why you didn't just call her sexy or fine in your first opening line, like 90% of all latin men do.

I agree 100%.

I just got back from two weeks in Latin America.

I never once complemented a chick on her looks but found something to playfully tease her about...like her big hair or something like that.

If she didn't want to eat something because she said it'd make her fat, I'd say..."yeah, you are looking a little chubby there" (This chick models and has won pagaents).

When I saw her later, she was fishing for compliments...
...saying things like "Do you think I'm a nice person", "Do you like these jeans?" etc.

I'd just say something like "no sé todavía"

Worked like a charm!

Post: #9

Well, to follow up, I've been to Latin America quite a few times since I made this thread 3 years ago. I found indirect works better, start off by talking normally, and then escalate from there, If she's interested you can strike up a connection pretty quickly, no need to do the romeo-talk shit.

Post: #10

Excellent question! Me and my spanish friend have mulled this one over a lot.

I find that I am doing better her in the Dominican Republic with a semi direct opener. For awhile I would ask directions then transition into how she is a student and maybe we can teach each other our languages. I am a thin guy, so I think it was like adding weak to weak = weak.

Now I open with "do you speak english?" then proceed in spanish or english with "what's your name? Are you a student?"

I'm showing that I am directly interested in her, but she can't quite figure out if I just want to be friends, whether I want sex/girlfriend, am just curious/bored, etc.

I adjust the mix of my opener based on how hot the girl is. I would probably not throw in a "you're pretty" with a 9. Whereas with a shy 7 I might, especially if there isn't a big audience.

I continue about how I live in the area. Ask what she is studying, does she like to cook, etc.. She still doesn't exactly know whether I am going for the sex. But I am being confident about why I am talking to her: I want to get to know her. I want to see her again. I am not hiding that fact.

If it is a few girls, or there is a large audience I might open indirect, just to avoid being awkward. But my friend goes direct with mixed groups.

Another thing I noticed seems to help is the body language. I usually face directly towards her in a confident way. If I feel some fear from her I might turn to the side or step back on a heel. My friend says I need to smile more (I am working on that). I also try to hold eye contact well.

Eye contact is critical. I will stare at a girl until she stares back. Then I approach. Better use of my time then approaching girls that aren't even noticing me. Though I will if she is really hot.

Post: #11

In Brazil being direct and gross works the best in night game.

Post: #12

Would be great to see this thread grow. Any new contributions would help as I am going there soon. So MidWest has no need to say sorry for bumping it lol. I never even knew this thread existed.

Post: #13

(02-04-2014 02:56 PM)hipster Wrote:  In Brazil being direct and gross works the best in night game.

What do you mean by gross? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'd like to see some examples of exactly what you mean by this. Also, what part of Brazil?

Post: #14

I think by using the word "gross" hes trying to display his opinion on direct approaches in general.

In my opinion indirect game is too fake and pussy (beta, whatever word you want to use).

I'd rather validate her as quickly as possible through a direct approach. But I don't use any cheesy lines as I've seen mentioned in this thread. "Hola como estas" works fine for me.

If she doesn't want to talk to me with a basic opening like thay...NEXT. There is an unlimited amount of girls who will. Will not waste my time beating around the bush with indirect talk.

Post: #15

(02-04-2014 02:56 PM)hipster Wrote:  In Brazil being direct and gross works the best in night game.

Sort of--I'd definitely qualify that though (I've only been to Brazil once, for about 3 weeks, so disclaimer about small sample sizes etc).

My observations were that using the Brazilian super-aggressive game style will net you a lot of makeouts, but few bangs. I read Roosh's stuff on Brazil before I went there, and one of my first nights in Rio I went to Lapa and made out with 5 or 6 girls in the street in probably under an hour and a half total by basically doing what Brazilian guys do and manhandling her and going for the sloppy makeout in less than 2 minutes. Girls were definitely down for this but the interaction almost always ended shortly after that. I observed a similar pattern watching Brazilian guys hitting on girls in the bars and clubs.

Eventually what I did was adapt my regular American game to be somewhat more aggressive, but still indirect initially and going for the kiss at about the 20 minute mark. I also pulled a page from my Spanish-speaking-girl game plan and started in English to come off as cocky, then switching to Portuguese after a bit (and usually back to English eventually since I'm not fluent in Portuguese and most Cariocas speak pretty good English). This got me fewer makeouts because I wasn't talking to as many girls, but I stopped experiencing the problem of the interaction fizzling out after a couple minutes and I did get laid.

I think that when you go slightly against the grain by not immediately groping and molesting the girl like she's used to, you create a certain amount of intrigue, which you can then cash in on to get her hooked and eventually push the interaction farther. Of course you can't avoid escalating for so long that she thinks you're a pussy, which is why I think it's still best to be more aggressive than you would with an American girl, just not quite as aggressive as the Brazilian guys themselves. When you work the middle correctly, you leave things hanging just long enough to make the girl start to wonder if you're gonna try to kiss her. I had multiple girls basically verbalize this exact thought to me after I kissed and/or fucked them.