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(02-18-2013 12:30 PM)soup Wrote:  Snake Eyes, why are you here?

Sounds like you've already won the game with your Ferrari Wink

It's nice to give back to the community that gave me so much Wink
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(02-18-2013 12:10 PM)SnakeEyes Wrote:  
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(02-18-2013 07:47 AM)SnakeEyes Wrote:  You ever hear the phrase, "sometimes you don't know what you don't know?"

This applies here. A guy could spend $35k on a loaded 2013 Camry, or he could spend $35k on a CPO Porsche. The car DOES matter. I realized the change first hand going from a beater to a BMW Z4. Don't underestimate it :]

Is a BMW Z4 really an impressive car?

Is this a geographic thing? Where do you live?

In my building's parking lot there are Maseratis, Lotus, Ferraris, Lambos, Vintage Muscle, etc. (I don't have a car).

People would think a BMW Z4 is a golf cart where I am at.
Those types of cars are garage queens I highly doubt they are outside in a parking lot even covered. A Z4 is a respectable and reliable daily driver anyplace in the world.

Yeah, but is it going to turn heads?

Get girls to pick up on you?

It looks like a glorified Mazda Miyata.

Maybe a step down from a Porsche Boxster (the ultimate "junior broker" car).

Actually it turns A LOT of heads. But, a normal person doesn't see it because they aren't driving it. Guys are on the sidelines while I see their wives watching me.

It's very common for guys to downplay another man's possessions or status btw. Yet, I'm taking in the women. It's like other guys are the crazy old man in the rocking chair saying we didn't land on the moon.

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Since $35K was mentioned in the thread...

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And that price even seems a bit high, although admittedly I haven't kept on on Ferrari prices....

I bet a lot of guys here could be ballin' Ferrari style if they wanted too...

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(02-18-2013 12:37 PM)SnakeEyes Wrote:  
(02-18-2013 12:30 PM)soup Wrote:  Snake Eyes, why are you here?

Sounds like you've already won the game with your Ferrari Wink

It's nice to give back to the community that gave me so much Wink

I guess. A three year old could tell you that having money will make it easier to get women. I'm still not sure how you are "giving" back anything to us. Shouldn't you be busy minding your stocks etc. Wink
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(02-18-2013 12:42 PM)soup Wrote:  
(02-18-2013 12:37 PM)SnakeEyes Wrote:  
(02-18-2013 12:30 PM)soup Wrote:  Snake Eyes, why are you here?

Sounds like you've already won the game with your Ferrari Wink

It's nice to give back to the community that gave me so much Wink

I guess. A three year old could tell you that having money will make it easier to get women. I'm still not sure how you are "giving" back anything to us. Shouldn't you be busy minding your stocks etc. Wink

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I'm curious, are you location independent? If not, do you want to be? How much traveling can you afford (time-wise) in your current situation?

Many questions but I'm very curious. I always hear that the more you climb on these things, the less time you have to really enjoy things.
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If your lame without money then you'll be lame with money. Dudes that say that money doesn't help you get girls are more than likely just lame and are turning girls off because of it.

There's no way in hell that buying bottles in the club and having table service will not help you get girls. If you can buy bottles tonight, invite a bitch to the fight sitting close next weekend and then bring her back to your pad that's super laid, you'd have to be an idiot to not know how to keep a chick on your team and down with you. Especially if you getting your Panamera valet'd and she's waiting with you when they bring it around.

Seriously, women aren't just going left when you go right to be spiteful. If you can show a chick that you got it going on like that she can't help but to comply.
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(02-18-2013 02:33 PM)theIVth Wrote:  If your lame without money then you'll be lame with money. Dudes that say that money doesn't help you get girls are more than likely just lame and are turning girls off because of it.

There's no way in hell that buying bottles in the club and having table service will not help you get girls. If you can buy bottles tonight, invite a bitch to the fight sitting close next weekend and then bring her back to your pad that's super laid, you'd have to be an idiot to not know how to keep a chick on your team and down with you. Especially if you getting your Panamera valet'd and she's waiting with you when they bring it around.

Seriously, women aren't just going left when you go right to be spiteful. If you can show a chick that you got it going on like that she can't help but to comply.

If bottle service was as effective as you promise, bottle rats wouldn't be a thing. Sounds like you're speculating, not speaking from experience. I know McQueen has a lot more experience with this. What little I've seen of bottle service, it's nowhere near a sure thing as you make it out to be.
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You don't have to let a chick in your section if you don't want to. And you can always kick a bitch out when you feel like it. And even if you do notice some broad just hanging around drinking your shit while dissing your homeboys when they try to talk to her, all girls aren't going to be like that. Just let her do her and talk to the girls that's got some sense that's laughing and having a good time. She'll eventually start to feel dumb and get with the program.

I can't be convinced that having more is going to ironically work against you. If I can buy Moët and have her chilling with me in VIP while I'm smelling like Creed or Bond #9 and my Audemar is making a subtle but powerful statement while on my wrist, she is really not going to have any choice but to choose and get with it. And even if you do happen to meet some lame bitch that gets off on dissing dudes that think they got it going on...fuck her. The majority of women aren't like that.



(02-18-2013 03:28 PM)basilransom Wrote:  
(02-18-2013 02:33 PM)theIVth Wrote:  If your lame without money then you'll be lame with money. Dudes that say that money doesn't help you get girls are more than likely just lame and are turning girls off because of it.

There's no way in hell that buying bottles in the club and having table service will not help you get girls. If you can buy bottles tonight, invite a bitch to the fight sitting close next weekend and then bring her back to your pad that's super laid, you'd have to be an idiot to not know how to keep a chick on your team and down with you. Especially if you getting your Panamera valet'd and she's waiting with you when they bring it around.

Seriously, women aren't just going left when you go right to be spiteful. If you can show a chick that you got it going on like that she can't help but to comply.

If bottle service was as effective as you promise, bottle rats wouldn't be a thing. Sounds like you're speculating, not speaking from experience. I know McQueen has a lot more experience with this. What little I've seen of bottle service, it's nowhere near a sure thing as you make it out to be.
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It is pretty easy to pull chicks with bottle service if you are not socially retarded. I live in NYC so I know from experience. Being able to walk into club and bypass the entire line and sit down at couches and be at the center of attention makes a lot easier to pull.

I work at an investment firm and manage a restaurant at night, I easily put in 80 hours a week sometimes more and still have plenty of time to go out. I also play rugby for a team. So i don't know why anyone is talking about 60 hour work week is a lot.
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(02-18-2013 03:42 PM)theIVth Wrote:  You don't have to let a chick in your section if you don't want to. And you can always kick a bitch out when you feel like it. And even if you do notice some broad just hanging around drinking your shit while dissing your homeboys when they try to talk to her, all girls aren't going to be like that. Just let her do her and talk to the girls that's got some sense that's laughing and having a good time. She'll eventually start to feel dumb and get with the program.

I can't be convinced that having more is going to ironically work against you. If I can buy Moët and have her chilling with me in VIP while I'm smelling like Creed or Bond #9 and my Audemar is making a subtle but powerful statement while on my wrist, she is really not going to have any choice but to choose and get with it. And even if you do happen to meet some lame bitch that gets off on dissing dudes that think they got it going on...fuck her. The majority of women aren't like that.

Is this Rick Ross' sock puppet?
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(02-17-2013 07:28 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Guys read the title of the OP post. All he is saying is that if you have money you have more options which is true. Without money you can't get into high end clubs and go to higher end places. You need money to just fit into these places. Without money you can't be in the Ukraine like Roosh is right now or Brasil like my buddy. Without money I would not have been able to live the life I have lived - period! Money in itself does not get you women. It does provide you greater access to them though.

In general, I would agree with McQueen. When a woman believes you have money she will hold out for a relationship. If you are going to play the money game then it's better to be a serial relationship player.

This is not true.

There are other ways to get access to clubs.

You can be a promoter, a DJ, part of the staff, friends with the owner, friends with a promoter, friends with a DJ, etc.
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(02-18-2013 03:50 PM)j r Wrote:  
(02-18-2013 03:42 PM)theIVth Wrote:  You don't have to let a chick in your section if you don't want to. And you can always kick a bitch out when you feel like it. And even if you do notice some broad just hanging around drinking your shit while dissing your homeboys when they try to talk to her, all girls aren't going to be like that. Just let her do her and talk to the girls that's got some sense that's laughing and having a good time. She'll eventually start to feel dumb and get with the program.

I can't be convinced that having more is going to ironically work against you. If I can buy Moët and have her chilling with me in VIP while I'm smelling like Creed or Bond #9 and my Audemar is making a subtle but powerful statement while on my wrist, she is really not going to have any choice but to choose and get with it. And even if you do happen to meet some lame bitch that gets off on dissing dudes that think they got it going on...fuck her. The majority of women aren't like that.

Is this Rick Ross' sock puppet?

Do you fuck white girls?

I had a table at Drai's on an off-night (Aoki was in the crowd). Didn't do shit. You were better off schmoozing with the schmos outside or breaking dance moves on the floor. No girls tried to enter my table. For my style of game, the smoking section is almost always the best place to game.
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SnakeEyes, i honestly consider you the worst poster on RVF. Each and every single one of your posts stinks of bragging, and has absolutely no substance. I can't say i found value in any word you ever said, and it's bugging me how it feels like i'm the only one that has this view. I read through the whole thread, and i see countless members noticing the same thing, that you don't actually give any tips or share any 'wisdom'. You're just telling stories of how much money you're making, how your car changed your life, and how many broads you fucked.

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(02-17-2013 03:18 PM)FretDancer Wrote:  Well first of all congratulations on you for achieving a lifestyle you wanted and that you are clearly enjoying. It is something we should all strive for, I believe.

It would be interesting if you could share your experiencing on "reaching" that level. What opportunities were presented to you? How did you take advantage of them? You must have had ruts and drought seasons, can you expand on that?

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(02-18-2013 07:57 AM)SnakeEyes Wrote:  Salary? $70k. But tht doesn't include per diem, mileage, free hotel, free healthcare, 11% 401k match, pension, reinvesting investments. Cash money hitting my spending accounts is over $5k most months.

Hours per week? 40. I am always in the finance game though. I read finance blogs for fun.

I don't make enough money yet. I need more.
(02-17-2013 12:56 PM)SnakeEyes Wrote:  Remember this boys. There is a never ending supply of younger women. Think about that. NEVER. ENDING.

I just slept with a 22 year old two nights ago and I'm 28. I have more women messaging me than I can track. I am now the chooser.

Don't waste time playing video games or at bars every night. Focus on anything that brings you money, status, or power.

Practicing game is a million times easier when you have the things women want. They will go out of their way to get your attention. I get free meals from women for my daughter and I at our favorite restaurant.

Money, status, power. Get any one of those and life changes.
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Was with this thread till I saw the "$5K a month" and driving around in a $35K car. That's just straight dumb. 7 months of post tax money to buy a depreciating asset that doesn't even help in getting laid. Just have a black car service and you'll get the same benefits (yes have rented fancy cars and compared the impacts), all you need is sick logistics and a black car or cab, black car just seals the deal for you.

My definition of rich seems to be very different from mainstream. Rich is not working for $5K a month spending $4K.

Rich is, "I don't have to work if I don't want to". That's actually rich. Wealthy is I can spend whatever I want and not work. If you make a lot of money and blow that shit like a dumbass you're just MC hammer.

People seem to fuck it up all the time, if you're hitting your prime money making years and decide to spend it you'll be living in regret at 40 because you'll still be working. When you hit prime numbers you stash it away and get to live on yield very fast.

We have two choices in life. Live with the pain of discipline or the pain of regret. It's pretty obvious which choice is correct.

The smart guys on this forum will just ignore the financial advice heeded by anyone saying a 20% savings rate goes anywhere, because t doesn't.

Use game as a tool to get sex on the cheap until you have enough cash to not worry about it. That's real money. Even $10K a month isn't shit if you're spending $9K to get laid.
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(02-18-2013 04:51 PM)Don Wrote:  SnakeEyes, i honestly consider you the worst poster on RVF. Each and every single one of your posts stinks of bragging, and has absolutely no substance. I can't say i found value in any word you ever said, and it's bugging me how it feels like i'm the only one that has this view.

Nah you're not the only one. Went back and looked at some of his other posts and it's more of the same.

We got us a Big Baller Troll that makes all of 70K/year.... Dodgy

At least he claims to have a nicer car than a '86 Porsche 944 like a past Big Baller that decided to no longer post here...

Maybe dropping some actual wisdom might change my mind, but I'm not holding my breath on that happening.

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(02-18-2013 03:44 PM)Lou pai Wrote:  I work at an investment firm and manage a restaurant at night, I easily put in 80 hours a week sometimes more and still have plenty of time to go out.

Damn. Do you sleep at all?
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(02-18-2013 04:14 PM)basilransom Wrote:  
(02-18-2013 03:50 PM)j r Wrote:  
(02-18-2013 03:42 PM)theIVth Wrote:  You don't have to let a chick in your section if you don't want to. And you can always kick a bitch out when you feel like it. And even if you do notice some broad just hanging around drinking your shit while dissing your homeboys when they try to talk to her, all girls aren't going to be like that. Just let her do her and talk to the girls that's got some sense that's laughing and having a good time. She'll eventually start to feel dumb and get with the program.

I can't be convinced that having more is going to ironically work against you. If I can buy Moët and have her chilling with me in VIP while I'm smelling like Creed or Bond #9 and my Audemar is making a subtle but powerful statement while on my wrist, she is really not going to have any choice but to choose and get with it. And even if you do happen to meet some lame bitch that gets off on dissing dudes that think they got it going on...fuck her. The majority of women aren't like that.

Is this Rick Ross' sock puppet?

Do you fuck white girls?

I had a table at Drai's on an off-night (Aoki was in the crowd). Didn't do shit. You were better off schmoozing with the schmos outside or breaking dance moves on the floor. No girls tried to enter my table. For my style of game, the smoking section is almost always the best place to game.

I was there that night when Aoki spun it was a Sunday night I believe. Place was so fkn packed and loud caveman game was the best way to go. I still didn't pull.
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WTF is black car service? How is a car a depreciating asset if you need it to get to work etc? I'm really not getting some of the anti-car stuff going on here unless you live in NYC. The guy drives a Z4 it's a reliable daily driver that doesn't have a lame factor that's it
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Lets be honest here. A Z4 aint shit in NY, miami, LA, SD or SF.

Hell, even a lambo barely get a head-turn in those big cities.

The other day, my boys and I are having tea/coffee at coffee-bean and 2 lambos, 1 old vette, and a aston martin DB9 coupe in a line roll up. These dudes in there 40s hop out. The girls and all the dudes scope the cars out, but then when the drivers (mid 40s) emerge---its business as usual.

Nobody gives a flying f-ck.

3 200k+ cars, and a 100k car in a line pulling up= a sight to see.

A Z4 is bullshit.

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(02-17-2013 12:56 PM)SnakeEyes Wrote:  Remember this boys. There is a never ending supply of younger women. Think about that. NEVER. ENDING.

I just slept with a 22 year old two nights ago and I'm 28. I have more women messaging me than I can track. I am now the chooser.

Don't waste time playing video games or at bars every night. Focus on anything that brings you money, status, or power.

Practicing game is a million times easier when you have the things women want. They will go out of their way to get your attention. I get free meals from women for my daughter and I at our favorite restaurant.

Money, status, power. Get any one of those and life changes.

Meh. If you are pursuing money to get women, you are missing out on the big picture. Of the things in your life that you can exercise some control over, money is probably the one that contributes the most to your happiness (maybe tied with health but money can to some extent buy health). Basically, it is the difference between being able to plan and live your own life vs. doing what you have to do to scrape by. If $ is just a tool to buy drinks for skanks or get a flashy car, you aren't valuing money enough.
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Not to hijack the thread but everyone is on a tangent anyway haha, but for you cats in NYC or those visiting use Uber.com. Great 'taxi' service but show up to your date in a black towncar instead of a taxi and for a great rate.
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Black cars are just set up like taxis, except it's more "high class". It's like having a personal driver that's it.

Cars are depreciating assets unless you are getting some sort of old school car that's going to be an antique and worth more in the future. $35K on a car on that income is beyond laughable, trading in for a "hot car" that's going to cost him a quarter million dollars over 30 years is a complete and utter joke. If you're balling, like millionaire balling, buy whatever the hell you want. On $5K a month that's just a terrible idea and people thinking that's the "life they want to live" is straight retarded.

To be honest sounds like a lack of game and financial awareness to me. I would not trade in $35K to bang a 9 not even for a 10. Then again I have no plans on needing to work in my 40's so my views are also extreme. But at least the decisions i'm making are not extremely stupid.

Also correct @ lemmo, money is for buying your health.

Hell 35g's on a stash of coke will get you 400x more ass. That night train would be running for over a year and you could even profit.
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(02-18-2013 06:29 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  WTF is black car service? How is a car a depreciating asset if you need it to get to work etc? I'm really not getting some of the anti-car stuff going on here unless you live in NYC. The guy drives a Z4 it's a reliable daily driver that doesn't have a lame factor that's it


Black car= livery/limo They're all over Chicago. Basically just a high end taxi.

You know I'm not anti car in the least. I am chuckling that this guy thinks a Z4 is some badass ride that makes broads drop their panties.

Thing is, I'd be kind of embarrassed to be claiming that my car gets me laid....

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RE: A man with money is a man with options
(02-18-2013 06:40 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  Not to hijack the thread but everyone is on a tangent anyway haha, but for you cats in NYC or those visiting use Uber.com. Great 'taxi' service but show up to your date in a black towncar instead of a taxi and for a great rate.

Don't they have it in SF too?

Have you used it?

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