Chris Dorner - LA ex-cop and his manifesto.
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tenderman100 路 2013-02-16 08:53:00 路 #309
(02-16-2013 03:32 AM)Hotwheels Wrote: Sometimes a man has to do what he has to do.
Even if it is not right in the "big picture".
Think on that before you post.
Not trying to be obtuse. Just curious how many here can think beyond emotion.
*I'm guessing not many*
Edit-The bad thing is, being so bold like that will actually make some of you throw out some vociferous , likely bullshit and weak arguments.
You can flip anything you want, this argument or any other.
Own your position always.
Just know when you might be wrong.
"Sometimes a man has to do what he has to do."
Right. Sometimes I just have to go out and waste the daughter of the guy who fucked me over.
Yeah, that isn't a weak argument. Not at all. It's strong as fuck, eh?
defguy 路 2013-02-16 13:35:00 路 #310
Maybe this deserves its own thread but I had an intense conversation with a friend about this. I originally thought there was no other choice for a man in Dorners' shoes. I would have snapped and started shooting corrupt cops as well. Unfortunately the minute he started targeting and threatening innocents he ruined any good he could have possibly hoped to attain - The hero became the villain.
My friend really put it in perspective for me that there are much better ways to out the corruptness than killing people. A lot of success was done with people setting themselves on fire in protest. If Dorner starved himself to death in the street in front of the police station as a protest, the whole world would be looking at LAPD to get their shit together. Watching someone starve to death, especially in america is gruesome. They would drag him into a hospital, force feed him and then he goes right back on the street and keeps starving himself. And it would only reaffirm his innocence and his commitment to doing the right thing.
Thats the problem, the guy is willing to die for a cause but he is not willing to suffer, he wanted other people to do the suffering for him.
My friend really put it in perspective for me that there are much better ways to out the corruptness than killing people. A lot of success was done with people setting themselves on fire in protest. If Dorner starved himself to death in the street in front of the police station as a protest, the whole world would be looking at LAPD to get their shit together. Watching someone starve to death, especially in america is gruesome. They would drag him into a hospital, force feed him and then he goes right back on the street and keeps starving himself. And it would only reaffirm his innocence and his commitment to doing the right thing.
Thats the problem, the guy is willing to die for a cause but he is not willing to suffer, he wanted other people to do the suffering for him.
But starving yourself to death is kind of beta/ attention whoring.
elabayarde 路 2013-02-16 16:23:00 路 #312
(02-16-2013 01:35 PM)defguy Wrote: Maybe this deserves its own thread but I had an intense conversation with a friend about this. I originally thought there was no other choice for a man in Dorners' shoes. I would have snapped and started shooting corrupt cops as well. Unfortunately the minute he started targeting and threatening innocents he ruined any good he could have possibly hoped to attain - The hero became the villain.
My friend really put it in perspective for me that there are much better ways to out the corruptness than killing people. A lot of success was done with people setting themselves on fire in protest. If Dorner starved himself to death in the street in front of the police station as a protest, the whole world would be looking at LAPD to get their shit together. Watching someone starve to death, especially in america is gruesome. They would drag him into a hospital, force feed him and then he goes right back on the street and keeps starving himself. And it would only reaffirm his innocence and his commitment to doing the right thing.
Thats the problem, the guy is willing to die for a cause but he is not willing to suffer, he wanted other people to do the suffering for him.
Im not a fan of him killing people... but I think that ideas is crazy.
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