Post: #1

So I'm struggling with understanding how I'm supposed to do this.

I feel I am pretty damn solid w/ my aloof game but I seem to fall short on making my sexual intentions known because my entire game is me pushing the girl away which in turn makes me feel not in congruence if I were to make a move.

Here's a recent interaction I had with a girl through text....

her - Boo! Just woke up in xxx hoping you were hungry, walking, skating or what not suckahead! Later

me (40 mins later)- suckahead? walking to starbux meet me there in 20

her (right away)- Ah I just got your text. I'm in denny's eating breakfast. I hate a huge neck if you wanna come much.

me - I hate a huge neck too

her - Hah. Sorry auto text. lol. I have a huge meal if you wanna come much. lol.

me - im jus gonna go to starbux, ill be there in a bit

her - Wait for me there. On my way. I need coffee, I'll bring you munchies.

then i didn't say anything and showed up like 15 minutes late.
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So I think I'm pretty good at this part, but I feel since I'm showing no interest in her whatsoever that it'd be weird for me to at any point just go in for the kiss or whatever. I did a small amount of physical escalation but probably not enough (maybe this is the key?)

I know good game is like two steps forward and one step back, like a push and pull, I seem to be all push and no pull at all. How do I put these two concepts together without giving up my aloofness and avoiding incongruence with my actions?

Post: #2

There is a fine balance with being aloof and being sexually aggressive.
I've found success in being bold with my sexual escalations while not actually making a big deal about it.

Example: Your sitting beside her and you start to play with her hair. You do this while still keeping the conversation going. DO NOT bring up the fact you are touching her hair.
The place your hand behind her neck and pull her in close for the kiss. They are deliberate steps to show you're sexual interest but you are still keeping the "alpha aloofness".

A good tactic for push and pull is kissing her and then push her away gently saying that she's moving too fast (When in fact you were the one who initiated the kiss)

Post: #3

Love that last line, kinjutsu. I can tie that in well with my "I don't put out" line.

Post: #4

Solid text game in my opinion. You are showing a little bit of interest but not enough to go out of your way for her, which is good. But I think you already know what you need to do, you said it yourself... push/pull, as in show her sometimes you're willing to put in the extra effort, but then next time you're not, etc.

BTW, do you ever initiate convo with this girl? Or is it always her? How did you meet her? Etc...

Post: #5

First of all, I believe that it's difficult to run tight game via text message -- there's very little upside, and tons of downside. Use the jumbotron test early and often, and try to force the reaction into meatspace as quickly as possible. Your texting was solid, though, and you did exactly that.

To your question of mixing aloof and sexual, you need to do this in person. Kinjutsu's specific suggestion is excellent, and it all comes down to continuing to touch her without really taking her too seriously. Send out bursts of clear signals physically while sending mixed/disinterested signals in every other phase of interaction (body language, conversation, chatting up other people, etc.).

Also, are you under 21? I believe it was Roosh who wrote that nobody ever got laid in a coffee shop. This is not the venue to ramp up the touching unless under very, very specific circumstances. Even sitting outside at a park or walking down the street is a better for physical escalation than at a crowded coffee shop where the girl will be concerned about the opinions of everyone watching. Best of luck.

Post: #6

(02-06-2013 05:50 PM)dealer10 Wrote:  So I'm struggling with understanding how I'm supposed to do this.

I feel I am pretty damn solid w/ my aloof game but I seem to fall short on making my sexual intentions known because my entire game is me pushing the girl away which in turn makes me feel not in congruence if I were to make a move.

Here's a recent interaction I had with a girl through text....

her - Boo! Just woke up in xxx hoping you were hungry, walking, skating or what not suckahead! Later

me (40 mins later)- suckahead? walking to starbux meet me there in 20

her (right away)- Ah I just got your text. I'm in denny's eating breakfast. I hate a huge neck if you wanna come much.

me - I hate a huge neck too

her - Hah. Sorry auto text. lol. I have a huge meal if you wanna come much. lol.

me - im jus gonna go to starbux, ill be there in a bit

her - Wait for me there. On my way. I need coffee, I'll bring you munchies.

then i didn't say anything and showed up like 15 minutes late.
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So I think I'm pretty good at this part, but I feel since I'm showing no interest in her whatsoever that it'd be weird for me to at any point just go in for the kiss or whatever. I did a small amount of physical escalation but probably not enough (maybe this is the key?)

I know good game is like two steps forward and one step back, like a push and pull, I seem to be all push and no pull at all. How do I put these two concepts together without giving up my aloofness and avoiding incongruence with my actions?

I think you are taking it a little too far. The text game is good and you have the girl qualifying herself to you and she is dying to see you by th end. Being 15 minutes late to Starbucks is a little unnecessary once you have her begging to see you. Now that you have her interested and chasing I'd say the next step is drinks at an intimate bar/lounge followed by your bed or hers. Otherwise slowly your aloofness is going to start seeming, in her eyes, less mysterious and more cowardly.

Post: #7

(02-07-2013 12:14 AM)TheRookie Wrote:  I think you are taking it a little too far. The text game is good and you have the girl qualifying herself to you and she is dying to see you by th end. Being 15 minutes late to Starbucks is a little unnecessary once you have her begging to see you. Now that you have her interested and chasing I'd say the next step is drinks at an intimate bar/lounge followed by your bed or hers. Otherwise slowly your aloofness is going to start seeming, in her eyes, less mysterious and more cowardly.

I liked that he was late. It definitely does not give off cowardice.

Post: #8

this is where game goes wrong and over-thinking fucks you up..why were you 15 minutes late? just show up when you feel like it, you don't have to sit there in your car and time it like "ok 0-5 minutes-desperate, 5-10 minutes-a little aloof, 10-15 minutes-im so damn aloof and fucking so many girls right now." i agree you shouldn't be there 15 minutes early with a goofy smile on your face so damn ecstatic to see her. but you should focus more on first and foremost, enjoying yourself, building solid rapport, making her laugh, teasing her, escalating (not so much in public), and sealing the deal after you put some alcohol in her. if you aren't already focus on your body, style, money, and knowledge..that shit'll go way further than trying to figure out whether or not to respond to texts or how many minutes late you should be. and especially for this particular chick she's already into you man, there's no point in going all out with the extra bullshit, just don't be a needy supplicating beta and text her good morning, ask her how her day was, call her every day, shit like that..do your own thing and when you wanna chill with her hit her with a text..calibrate that shit. but just live your awesome as fuck life and you won't have to worry about if you responded to the texts too soon, showed up to the date too early, etc.

Post: #9

(02-06-2013 10:40 PM)1bliss Wrote:  Solid text game in my opinion. You are showing a little bit of interest but not enough to go out of your way for her, which is good. But I think you already know what you need to do, you said it yourself... push/pull, as in show her sometimes you're willing to put in the extra effort, but then next time you're not, etc.

BTW, do you ever initiate convo with this girl? Or is it always her? How did you meet her? Etc...

I met her cuz my buddy was hooking up with her. And I had some friends over and she happened to be there.

Post: #10

I wasn't taking her to Starbucks, I was just telling her to meet me there. Afterwards she wanted to go back to my place so I said okay.

I wasn't purposefully late but I wasn't purposefully trying to be on time either.

She definitely could think I'm being more of a coward than aloof though because she hasn't seen me with other girls and I didn't physically escalate with her since I wouldn't do that to a friend who really likes her. She did just LJBF him tho.