Post: #1

When a girl calls you her friend is that it game over or is there anyway to get her in the bed? i know a girl she is hot and comeing from a small town with not a lot of women i dont want to lose the possiable chance of geting her in the bed but she just said them famous words to me.'I am so glad we are just friends'. Is there any hope or should i just cut my losses and move on?

Post: #2

Don't be cool with getting treated worse than you desire. She knows that she is neutering you when she says those words.

Something I've been trying recently (assuming she says it seriously, not as a joke or shit test or whatever):

Tell her you don't want to be friends, that you're a man and she can't expect you to be satisfied with a friendship. Then disappear from her life for a while, and let her think about it.

Personally I think no girl can force you into the friendzone without your consent.

Post: #3

If you want to get out of the friend zone you should holler at her girls. I have done it myself from a book I read. It works like a charm. Holler at all her friends. When she sees that you are paying attention to her friends and not her, shes going to think "how come hes not hitting on me". Try it and see if it works.

Post: #4

Verbal castration... I like polymath's idea...

I'd just say, "I've got enough friends" and kind of laugh it off, so you don't come off as too harsh, yet you deliver the message that you're not going to be toyed with or used for her amusement and aren't interested in being her "guy friend". Then ignore her for a while.

Post: #5

Me: yeah that's awesome we would be the kinda friends who talks all the time, shower together and cuddle in bed all night, we'll be the best friends ever. give her a smirk and go for the date if you're not face to face. If she doesn't play along, up to the next one

Post: #6

Girls will bang their "friends".

Just get her drunk and alone!

Post: #7

If she truly has you in the friends category. Move on keep her as a friend in you want but probably not worth messing with her.

Post: #8

When she tells you that line ask her to do some things you do with your male friends which will include her behaving manly ("lets play real football sis! here, take this 40lb armour!"). When she refuses, and she will "because she is a girl, you asshole!1" tell her she is a shitty friend for you and dance away with a smirk.

Post: #9

Girls fuck friends all the time.

It's all about context. If a girl refers to you as a friend in a non-sexual situation you're fine as long as she respects you as a sexual being. Don't sweat it. The frame is, 'we're friends who just haven't fucked yet because I've been busy'.

The only time it's bounce worthy is if she calls you a friend after you've made a pass at her. Even then it only matters if she's slowing down. Last year I hooked up with a girl I'd been friends with for a long time (about 15 years). As we're hooking up she kept on saying, oh, we shouldn't do this, you're such a great friend. But she didn't slow down and kept on removing clothing.

It's tough if you're a recovering beta-orbiter because you've probably only heard the word 'friend' when a girl is rejecting you. Until you're able to interact with a girl you want to fuck and not get hung up on her it is good advice to next her as soon as the friend line comes out. But once you're able to establish and maintain a sexual frame friend is just another word, and you should never listen to what chicks say, just what they do.

Post: #10

Tell her:

"Im not friends with girls and don't hang out with girls I don't have sex with with. Why would I do that? If you want to be friends and hang out, no problem. The only rule is that my penis must go into your vagina."

Post: #11

Accept and embrace the "freinds-zone". I think its a great place to be. It means that the girl is comfortable talking with you.

HERE IS THE IMPORTANT THING:

DO NOT ACT LIKE YOU LIKE HER..REMIND HER THAT YOU ARE "JUST FRIENDS".. VERBALLY TELL HER, "WE ARE JUST FRIENDS". Make her think you are not interested in her. It will confuse her. Girls want what they can't have. Tell her about the other girls you are dating. Become really good "friends" with her.

NEXT STEP:

GET HER DRUNK AND ALONE! GO FOR IT.

Another tip: Try to get her drunk and alone soon after she breaksup with a guy she is seeing.

Is she will not bang you after you guys are good friends who are drunk and alone together...Move on. Tell her you are not interested in friendship.

If she complains about it and still wants to be your friend, give her another chance. Again, get her drunk and alone and go for it. If she still doesn't let you bang, delete her from your phone.

This has worked for me a few times.

The only difference between the "friends-zone" and "friends with benefits" is a little wine or whiskey!

Post: #12

(02-05-2013 02:06 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Accept and embrace the "freinds-zone". I think its a great place to be. It means that the girl is comfortable talking with you.

HERE IS THE IMPORTANT THING:

DO NOT ACT LIKE YOU LIKE HER..REMIND HER THAT YOU ARE "JUST FRIENDS".. VERBALLY TELL HER, "WE ARE JUST FRIENDS". Make her think you are not interested in her. It will confuse her. Girls want what they can't have. Tell her about the other girls you are dating. Become really good "friends" with her.

NEXT STEP:

GET HER DRUNK AND ALONE! GO FOR IT.

Another tip: Try to get her drunk and alone soon after she breaksup with a guy she is seeing.

Is she will not bang you after you guys are good friends who are drunk and alone together...Move on. Tell her you are not interested in friendship.

If she complains about it and still wants to be your friend, give her another chance. Again, get her drunk and alone and go for it. If she still doesn't let you bang, delete her from your phone.

This has worked for me a few times.

The only difference between the "friends-zone" and "friends with benefits" is a little wine or whiskey!

always on the ball Gio

Post: #13

Ok I'm gonna hijack this thread real quick. What if a girl shows a crazy amount of attraction - first time hanging out we are holding hands in the club, tons of touching from both of us, undoing a couple buttons on her shirt without her stopping me, her kissing my neck, etc etc but no make out yet... go on a date few weeks later, she was sick as a dog so no make out again but still pretty touchy (having my hands between her thighs a lot) and all seemed to go great. And then boom, she goes all 'friendly' and randomly cold/distant, and she doesn't use the word 'date', instead she mentions 'partying' or 'hanging out' and has used the word friend before (more precisely, 'basketball buddy'). But when we first went on a 1v1 date, she told me she told our close mutual friend that we are hanging out, and said it in a way where it wasn't just friendly.

Why do they friendzone despite showing you and telling you how much they are attracted to you? BTW this girl I'm talking about has pretty much only been with 1 dude on/off for 5 fuckin years (insecure/shy good girl) and told me she is not seeing anyone at the moment (when we started hanging out few months ago). She's been hurt in the past and thinks I'm a player because she knows my ex fuck-buddy, and we have a very close mutual friend who told her first day that I talk to a lot of girls.

Chime in pimps.

Post: #14

(02-06-2013 10:25 PM)1bliss Wrote:  Ok I'm gonna hijack this thread real quick. What if a girl shows a crazy amount of attraction - first time hanging out we are holding hands in the club, tons of touching from both of us, undoing a couple buttons on her shirt without her stopping me, her kissing my neck, etc etc but no make out yet... go on a date few weeks later, she was sick as a dog so no make out again but still pretty touchy (having my hands between her thighs a lot) and all seemed to go great. And then boom, she goes all 'friendly' and randomly cold/distant, and she doesn't use the word 'date', instead she mentions 'partying' or 'hanging out' and has used the word friend before (more precisely, 'basketball buddy'). But when we first went on a 1v1 date, she told me she told our close mutual friend that we are hanging out, and said it in a way where it wasn't just friendly.

Why do they friendzone despite showing you and telling you how much they are attracted to you? BTW this girl I'm talking about has pretty much only been with 1 dude on/off for 5 fuckin years (insecure/shy good girl) and told me she is not seeing anyone at the moment (when we started hanging out few months ago). She's been hurt in the past and thinks I'm a player because she knows my ex fuck-buddy, and we have a very close mutual friend who told her first day that I talk to a lot of girls.

Chime in pimps.

Just go asshole, work your way out of the friendzone by disassociating yourself with her. Don't "hang out" with her, she'll start chasing you soon

Post: #15

(02-07-2013 07:32 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(02-06-2013 10:25 PM)1bliss Wrote:  Ok I'm gonna hijack this thread real quick. What if a girl shows a crazy amount of attraction - first time hanging out we are holding hands in the club, tons of touching from both of us, undoing a couple buttons on her shirt without her stopping me, her kissing my neck, etc etc but no make out yet... go on a date few weeks later, she was sick as a dog so no make out again but still pretty touchy (having my hands between her thighs a lot) and all seemed to go great. And then boom, she goes all 'friendly' and randomly cold/distant, and she doesn't use the word 'date', instead she mentions 'partying' or 'hanging out' and has used the word friend before (more precisely, 'basketball buddy'). But when we first went on a 1v1 date, she told me she told our close mutual friend that we are hanging out, and said it in a way where it wasn't just friendly.

Why do they friendzone despite showing you and telling you how much they are attracted to you? BTW this girl I'm talking about has pretty much only been with 1 dude on/off for 5 fuckin years (insecure/shy good girl) and told me she is not seeing anyone at the moment (when we started hanging out few months ago). She's been hurt in the past and thinks I'm a player because she knows my ex fuck-buddy, and we have a very close mutual friend who told her first day that I talk to a lot of girls.

Chime in pimps.

Just go asshole, work your way out of the friendzone by disassociating yourself with her. Don't "hang out" with her, she'll start chasing you soon

Well last time I spoke to her was almost a month ago... Out of nowhere she became extremely cold and distant. Literally out of the blue... all was going well, we were supposed to go on a date and she said she's working but asked if she's done early at like 6 if we can still go out, I said yeah that's perfect. She calls me that day, says she's done at 6, so I start making plans, then she flakes last minute because her mom needed a ride from work at 9pm. Anyway, we talked a few days after this and then she became very cold/distant, ignored some messages, and I called her out on it and she didn't even respond to that. Spoke to her a week later (I initiated) and she said sorry for not responding she had just been really busy (lol). Then I told her whether she's going to Brazil or not (she might be going to Brazil to teach for a year in April. I thought this might be holding her back from me but not sure now), I still wanna take her on a date... she says "yeah I wanted to talk to you about stuff kinda sometime soon, like if we hang out" (uh oh). That weekend she had plans with her bestfriend to go to a concert, so she said "I can always come around on weekdays when you have some time", so I message her during the week to hang out and she didn't even reply. This was almost a month ago and we haven't spoken since.

Like I said, this is completely out of nowhere that she became like this, and I have no idea why - this is why I wanna hear what she has to say and what her reasoning is. I don't care if it's the friendzone talk, as long as I'm not left with a dark cloud above my head. I care simply because we have a very close mutual friend and she's actually a great girl, so I'd like to clear the air.

What do you think?

Post: #16

(02-07-2013 08:23 AM)1bliss Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 07:32 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(02-06-2013 10:25 PM)1bliss Wrote:  Ok I'm gonna hijack this thread real quick. What if a girl shows a crazy amount of attraction - first time hanging out we are holding hands in the club, tons of touching from both of us, undoing a couple buttons on her shirt without her stopping me, her kissing my neck, etc etc but no make out yet... go on a date few weeks later, she was sick as a dog so no make out again but still pretty touchy (having my hands between her thighs a lot) and all seemed to go great. And then boom, she goes all 'friendly' and randomly cold/distant, and she doesn't use the word 'date', instead she mentions 'partying' or 'hanging out' and has used the word friend before (more precisely, 'basketball buddy'). But when we first went on a 1v1 date, she told me she told our close mutual friend that we are hanging out, and said it in a way where it wasn't just friendly.

Why do they friendzone despite showing you and telling you how much they are attracted to you? BTW this girl I'm talking about has pretty much only been with 1 dude on/off for 5 fuckin years (insecure/shy good girl) and told me she is not seeing anyone at the moment (when we started hanging out few months ago). She's been hurt in the past and thinks I'm a player because she knows my ex fuck-buddy, and we have a very close mutual friend who told her first day that I talk to a lot of girls.

Chime in pimps.

Just go asshole, work your way out of the friendzone by disassociating yourself with her. Don't "hang out" with her, she'll start chasing you soon

Well last time I spoke to her was almost a month ago... Out of nowhere she became extremely cold and distant. Literally out of the blue... all was going well, we were supposed to go on a date and she said she's working but asked if she's done early at like 6 if we can still go out, I said yeah that's perfect. She calls me that day, says she's done at 6, so I start making plans, then she flakes last minute because her mom needed a ride from work at 9pm. Anyway, we talked a few days after this and then she became very cold/distant, ignored some messages, and I called her out on it and she didn't even respond to that. Spoke to her a week later (I initiated) and she said sorry for not responding she had just been really busy (lol). Then I told her whether she's going to Brazil or not (she might be going to Brazil to teach for a year in April. I thought this might be holding her back from me but not sure now), I still wanna take her on a date... she says "yeah I wanted to talk to you about stuff kinda sometime soon, like if we hang out" (uh oh). That weekend she had plans with her bestfriend to go to a concert, so she said "I can always come around on weekdays when you have some time", so I message her during the week to hang out and she didn't even reply. This was almost a month ago and we haven't spoken since.

Like I said, this is completely out of nowhere that she became like this, and I have no idea why - this is why I wanna hear what she has to say and what her reasoning is. I don't care if it's the friendzone talk, as long as I'm not left with a dark cloud above my head. I care simply because we have a very close mutual friend and she's actually a great girl, so I'd like to clear the air.

What do you think?

I honestly think you should leave it and just go and find another girl. I had one girl display similar 'symptoms' to what you've described above, I stopped messaging her and didn't bother trying to hear her side of the story, about 3 months later she messaged me via txt, facebook and left me a few voicemails. It's difficult but from what you said, you kind of smothered her, all those texts, calls etc.

Post: #17

(02-07-2013 08:30 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:23 AM)1bliss Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 07:32 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(02-06-2013 10:25 PM)1bliss Wrote:  Ok I'm gonna hijack this thread real quick. What if a girl shows a crazy amount of attraction - first time hanging out we are holding hands in the club, tons of touching from both of us, undoing a couple buttons on her shirt without her stopping me, her kissing my neck, etc etc but no make out yet... go on a date few weeks later, she was sick as a dog so no make out again but still pretty touchy (having my hands between her thighs a lot) and all seemed to go great. And then boom, she goes all 'friendly' and randomly cold/distant, and she doesn't use the word 'date', instead she mentions 'partying' or 'hanging out' and has used the word friend before (more precisely, 'basketball buddy'). But when we first went on a 1v1 date, she told me she told our close mutual friend that we are hanging out, and said it in a way where it wasn't just friendly.

Why do they friendzone despite showing you and telling you how much they are attracted to you? BTW this girl I'm talking about has pretty much only been with 1 dude on/off for 5 fuckin years (insecure/shy good girl) and told me she is not seeing anyone at the moment (when we started hanging out few months ago). She's been hurt in the past and thinks I'm a player because she knows my ex fuck-buddy, and we have a very close mutual friend who told her first day that I talk to a lot of girls.

Chime in pimps.

Just go asshole, work your way out of the friendzone by disassociating yourself with her. Don't "hang out" with her, she'll start chasing you soon

Well last time I spoke to her was almost a month ago... Out of nowhere she became extremely cold and distant. Literally out of the blue... all was going well, we were supposed to go on a date and she said she's working but asked if she's done early at like 6 if we can still go out, I said yeah that's perfect. She calls me that day, says she's done at 6, so I start making plans, then she flakes last minute because her mom needed a ride from work at 9pm. Anyway, we talked a few days after this and then she became very cold/distant, ignored some messages, and I called her out on it and she didn't even respond to that. Spoke to her a week later (I initiated) and she said sorry for not responding she had just been really busy (lol). Then I told her whether she's going to Brazil or not (she might be going to Brazil to teach for a year in April. I thought this might be holding her back from me but not sure now), I still wanna take her on a date... she says "yeah I wanted to talk to you about stuff kinda sometime soon, like if we hang out" (uh oh). That weekend she had plans with her bestfriend to go to a concert, so she said "I can always come around on weekdays when you have some time", so I message her during the week to hang out and she didn't even reply. This was almost a month ago and we haven't spoken since.

Like I said, this is completely out of nowhere that she became like this, and I have no idea why - this is why I wanna hear what she has to say and what her reasoning is. I don't care if it's the friendzone talk, as long as I'm not left with a dark cloud above my head. I care simply because we have a very close mutual friend and she's actually a great girl, so I'd like to clear the air.

What do you think?

I honestly think you should leave it and just go and find another girl. I had one girl display similar 'symptoms' to what you've described above, I stopped messaging her and didn't bother trying to hear her side of the story, about 3 months later she messaged me via txt, facebook and left me a few voicemails. It's difficult but from what you said, you kind of smothered her, all those texts, calls etc.

I feel like she feels I was rushing her, but really I wasn't. At first she would always tell me she doesn't go out with guys who don't call her, so I called her a couple times and we had good talks. But in the recent events where she went cold out of nowhere, I had used the line "you would make a terrible girlfriend" on her and she said it made her mad but she got over it. This bitch does not react well to teasing or being an asshole. So I tried the nice guy game on her after and she just became evasive. That's why I'm thinking that ex bf of hers is back in her life, there's no other explanation for it. When we hang out, there's so much sexual tension, attraction and interest between us it's crazy, yet behind her phone she hides and is a different person. I always thought she was being held back by something or someone because she kept calling me trouble, dangerous, "we aren't allowed to like each other because we are both trouble", etc etc

Post: #18

(02-07-2013 08:41 AM)1bliss Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:30 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:23 AM)1bliss Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 07:32 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(02-06-2013 10:25 PM)1bliss Wrote:  Ok I'm gonna hijack this thread real quick. What if a girl shows a crazy amount of attraction - first time hanging out we are holding hands in the club, tons of touching from both of us, undoing a couple buttons on her shirt without her stopping me, her kissing my neck, etc etc but no make out yet... go on a date few weeks later, she was sick as a dog so no make out again but still pretty touchy (having my hands between her thighs a lot) and all seemed to go great. And then boom, she goes all 'friendly' and randomly cold/distant, and she doesn't use the word 'date', instead she mentions 'partying' or 'hanging out' and has used the word friend before (more precisely, 'basketball buddy'). But when we first went on a 1v1 date, she told me she told our close mutual friend that we are hanging out, and said it in a way where it wasn't just friendly.

Why do they friendzone despite showing you and telling you how much they are attracted to you? BTW this girl I'm talking about has pretty much only been with 1 dude on/off for 5 fuckin years (insecure/shy good girl) and told me she is not seeing anyone at the moment (when we started hanging out few months ago). She's been hurt in the past and thinks I'm a player because she knows my ex fuck-buddy, and we have a very close mutual friend who told her first day that I talk to a lot of girls.

Chime in pimps.

Just go asshole, work your way out of the friendzone by disassociating yourself with her. Don't "hang out" with her, she'll start chasing you soon

Well last time I spoke to her was almost a month ago... Out of nowhere she became extremely cold and distant. Literally out of the blue... all was going well, we were supposed to go on a date and she said she's working but asked if she's done early at like 6 if we can still go out, I said yeah that's perfect. She calls me that day, says she's done at 6, so I start making plans, then she flakes last minute because her mom needed a ride from work at 9pm. Anyway, we talked a few days after this and then she became very cold/distant, ignored some messages, and I called her out on it and she didn't even respond to that. Spoke to her a week later (I initiated) and she said sorry for not responding she had just been really busy (lol). Then I told her whether she's going to Brazil or not (she might be going to Brazil to teach for a year in April. I thought this might be holding her back from me but not sure now), I still wanna take her on a date... she says "yeah I wanted to talk to you about stuff kinda sometime soon, like if we hang out" (uh oh). That weekend she had plans with her bestfriend to go to a concert, so she said "I can always come around on weekdays when you have some time", so I message her during the week to hang out and she didn't even reply. This was almost a month ago and we haven't spoken since.

Like I said, this is completely out of nowhere that she became like this, and I have no idea why - this is why I wanna hear what she has to say and what her reasoning is. I don't care if it's the friendzone talk, as long as I'm not left with a dark cloud above my head. I care simply because we have a very close mutual friend and she's actually a great girl, so I'd like to clear the air.

What do you think?

I honestly think you should leave it and just go and find another girl. I had one girl display similar 'symptoms' to what you've described above, I stopped messaging her and didn't bother trying to hear her side of the story, about 3 months later she messaged me via txt, facebook and left me a few voicemails. It's difficult but from what you said, you kind of smothered her, all those texts, calls etc.

I feel like she feels I was rushing her, but really I wasn't. At first she would always tell me she doesn't go out with guys who don't call her, so I called her a couple times and we had good talks. But in the recent events where she went cold out of nowhere, I had used the line "you would make a terrible girlfriend" on her and she said it made her mad but she got over it. This bitch does not react well to teasing or being an asshole. So I tried the nice guy game on her after and she just became evasive. That's why I'm thinking that ex bf of hers is back in her life, there's no other explanation for it. When we hang out, there's so much sexual tension, attraction and interest between us it's crazy, yet behind her phone she hides and is a different person. I always thought she was being held back by something or someone because she kept calling me trouble, dangerous, "we aren't allowed to like each other because we are both trouble", etc etc

Yes also highly likely there's another guy, it's best just to leave it and find some new girls man. It's the best way to get over this girl.

Post: #19

(02-07-2013 08:52 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:41 AM)1bliss Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:30 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:23 AM)1bliss Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 07:32 AM)bojangles Wrote:  Just go asshole, work your way out of the friendzone by disassociating yourself with her. Don't "hang out" with her, she'll start chasing you soon

Well last time I spoke to her was almost a month ago... Out of nowhere she became extremely cold and distant. Literally out of the blue... all was going well, we were supposed to go on a date and she said she's working but asked if she's done early at like 6 if we can still go out, I said yeah that's perfect. She calls me that day, says she's done at 6, so I start making plans, then she flakes last minute because her mom needed a ride from work at 9pm. Anyway, we talked a few days after this and then she became very cold/distant, ignored some messages, and I called her out on it and she didn't even respond to that. Spoke to her a week later (I initiated) and she said sorry for not responding she had just been really busy (lol). Then I told her whether she's going to Brazil or not (she might be going to Brazil to teach for a year in April. I thought this might be holding her back from me but not sure now), I still wanna take her on a date... she says "yeah I wanted to talk to you about stuff kinda sometime soon, like if we hang out" (uh oh). That weekend she had plans with her bestfriend to go to a concert, so she said "I can always come around on weekdays when you have some time", so I message her during the week to hang out and she didn't even reply. This was almost a month ago and we haven't spoken since.

Like I said, this is completely out of nowhere that she became like this, and I have no idea why - this is why I wanna hear what she has to say and what her reasoning is. I don't care if it's the friendzone talk, as long as I'm not left with a dark cloud above my head. I care simply because we have a very close mutual friend and she's actually a great girl, so I'd like to clear the air.

What do you think?

I honestly think you should leave it and just go and find another girl. I had one girl display similar 'symptoms' to what you've described above, I stopped messaging her and didn't bother trying to hear her side of the story, about 3 months later she messaged me via txt, facebook and left me a few voicemails. It's difficult but from what you said, you kind of smothered her, all those texts, calls etc.

I feel like she feels I was rushing her, but really I wasn't. At first she would always tell me she doesn't go out with guys who don't call her, so I called her a couple times and we had good talks. But in the recent events where she went cold out of nowhere, I had used the line "you would make a terrible girlfriend" on her and she said it made her mad but she got over it. This bitch does not react well to teasing or being an asshole. So I tried the nice guy game on her after and she just became evasive. That's why I'm thinking that ex bf of hers is back in her life, there's no other explanation for it. When we hang out, there's so much sexual tension, attraction and interest between us it's crazy, yet behind her phone she hides and is a different person. I always thought she was being held back by something or someone because she kept calling me trouble, dangerous, "we aren't allowed to like each other because we are both trouble", etc etc

Yes also highly likely there's another guy, it's best just to leave it and find some new girls man. It's the best way to get over this girl.

Yeah I know that's the true and tested way. I have been with other girls since and still am talking to other ones, but for some damn reason I really like this girl, she was really my type and I never say that about a girl. I never crush this hard. And because I'm still crushing on her, I don't even have the drive or the will to put in an effort to go see other girls, because I just don't feel like it, I don't care about seeing them and I can't push myself enough to just go even if I don't have feelings for them. It's a beta feeling, let me tell you that!

Anyway, back on topic... point of the story was that despite having a ton of sexual attraction, a woman can still easily friendzone you. In my opinion it's easier to get out of that zone if there was initial attraction, but it's still a mission.

Post: #20

(02-07-2013 09:05 AM)1bliss Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:52 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:41 AM)1bliss Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:30 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:23 AM)1bliss Wrote:  Well last time I spoke to her was almost a month ago... Out of nowhere she became extremely cold and distant. Literally out of the blue... all was going well, we were supposed to go on a date and she said she's working but asked if she's done early at like 6 if we can still go out, I said yeah that's perfect. She calls me that day, says she's done at 6, so I start making plans, then she flakes last minute because her mom needed a ride from work at 9pm. Anyway, we talked a few days after this and then she became very cold/distant, ignored some messages, and I called her out on it and she didn't even respond to that. Spoke to her a week later (I initiated) and she said sorry for not responding she had just been really busy (lol). Then I told her whether she's going to Brazil or not (she might be going to Brazil to teach for a year in April. I thought this might be holding her back from me but not sure now), I still wanna take her on a date... she says "yeah I wanted to talk to you about stuff kinda sometime soon, like if we hang out" (uh oh). That weekend she had plans with her bestfriend to go to a concert, so she said "I can always come around on weekdays when you have some time", so I message her during the week to hang out and she didn't even reply. This was almost a month ago and we haven't spoken since.

Like I said, this is completely out of nowhere that she became like this, and I have no idea why - this is why I wanna hear what she has to say and what her reasoning is. I don't care if it's the friendzone talk, as long as I'm not left with a dark cloud above my head. I care simply because we have a very close mutual friend and she's actually a great girl, so I'd like to clear the air.

What do you think?

I honestly think you should leave it and just go and find another girl. I had one girl display similar 'symptoms' to what you've described above, I stopped messaging her and didn't bother trying to hear her side of the story, about 3 months later she messaged me via txt, facebook and left me a few voicemails. It's difficult but from what you said, you kind of smothered her, all those texts, calls etc.

I feel like she feels I was rushing her, but really I wasn't. At first she would always tell me she doesn't go out with guys who don't call her, so I called her a couple times and we had good talks. But in the recent events where she went cold out of nowhere, I had used the line "you would make a terrible girlfriend" on her and she said it made her mad but she got over it. This bitch does not react well to teasing or being an asshole. So I tried the nice guy game on her after and she just became evasive. That's why I'm thinking that ex bf of hers is back in her life, there's no other explanation for it. When we hang out, there's so much sexual tension, attraction and interest between us it's crazy, yet behind her phone she hides and is a different person. I always thought she was being held back by something or someone because she kept calling me trouble, dangerous, "we aren't allowed to like each other because we are both trouble", etc etc

Yes also highly likely there's another guy, it's best just to leave it and find some new girls man. It's the best way to get over this girl.

Yeah I know that's the true and tested way. I have been with other girls since and still am talking to other ones, but for some damn reason I really like this girl, she was really my type and I never say that about a girl. I never crush this hard. And because I'm still crushing on her, I don't even have the drive or the will to put in an effort to go see other girls, because I just don't feel like it, I don't care about seeing them and I can't push myself enough to just go even if I don't have feelings for them. It's a beta feeling, let me tell you that!

Here's my diagnosis - oneitis. Here have a listen to Dr Bojangles and here's my action plan for you

Oneitis is a disease that presents a total incapacitation of the man’s logic, reason and interest in hobbies, hygiene and restful sleep. We’ve all suffered from it and it happens all the time. A friend of mine has suffered from this recently, thanks to my intervention he is slowly getting over this and has nearly forgotten all about the lady from afar who he lusted for unnaturally.

It exists in two forms, a precoital and postcoital expression. The precoital form occurs when two things happen: A girl who imitates a precise beauty of the face that closely matches the template that the man carries in his head for a perfect woman and if this girl is within the man’s visual and aural field. The postcoital form comes when the same as above is met but the man has had sexual relations with the girl and no longer does (the “no girl will ever be as good as her” crap).

Roissy puts is as thus:

Beauty + proximity = acute oneitis

Beauty + former proximity + memories = malignant oneitis

The second is more damaging to a man’s self esteem and in the long term health as it’s resistant to therapeutic intervention.

” Acute oneitis is often solved rather simply by administering an alpha-pak of anti-obsessives, which are slutty women almost as good looking as the infectious agent but more enzymatically compatible. Side effects include drowsiness after finally busting a nut in a flesh and blood sex partner.”

The victim is burdened with obsessive-compulsive daydreaming when the object of lust is not present. It also leads to blinding the man from alternative sexual opportunities in his midst.

Curing this disease?

Let’s get to the cause of the malignant oneitis.

1. Investment

Naturally you are going to value that which took time and effort winning over. Man naturally assigns a much higher value to her than to himself.

Cure

- Take a month off from actively skirt chasing.

- Don’t burn your ex’s photos, but do store them in a lockbox in the attic where it would be a pain for you to conveniently access. Burning photos and other memorabilia is a powerfully symbolic act that ironically reinforces her importance in your life. Better to nonchalantly store that shit like it was any other old knickknack you no longer have use for.

- When you return to the field, focus on gaming girls hotter than what you are used to. This is like weightlifting: you need to incrementally go up in difficulty to see any progress. The challenge will help you concentrate on the present instead of the past.

- When you meet a girl you really like, invest in her. Don’t go for the bang right away. You want to increase her value in your mind, and the way to do that is, one, to make sure she’s hot, and two, to take your time winning her over. Sluts are not gonna cure your oneitis, but hard-to-get girls will.

- Finally, if none of the above works, scour the earth for a woman who is as beautifully evil as your ex was, and fall in love with her before you’ve said “hi”. The ensuing passionate fling and humiliating breakup should replace your old oneitis with a new oneitis, which, if nothing else, is at least a change of scenery.

The above I got from somewhere (Heartiste, possibly Krauser? Rollo?) and wrote it up but it was again held in one of the numerous .txt files i've got saved up on the net regarding Game.

Post: #21

(02-07-2013 09:09 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 09:05 AM)1bliss Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:52 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:41 AM)1bliss Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:30 AM)bojangles Wrote:  I honestly think you should leave it and just go and find another girl. I had one girl display similar 'symptoms' to what you've described above, I stopped messaging her and didn't bother trying to hear her side of the story, about 3 months later she messaged me via txt, facebook and left me a few voicemails. It's difficult but from what you said, you kind of smothered her, all those texts, calls etc.

I feel like she feels I was rushing her, but really I wasn't. At first she would always tell me she doesn't go out with guys who don't call her, so I called her a couple times and we had good talks. But in the recent events where she went cold out of nowhere, I had used the line "you would make a terrible girlfriend" on her and she said it made her mad but she got over it. This bitch does not react well to teasing or being an asshole. So I tried the nice guy game on her after and she just became evasive. That's why I'm thinking that ex bf of hers is back in her life, there's no other explanation for it. When we hang out, there's so much sexual tension, attraction and interest between us it's crazy, yet behind her phone she hides and is a different person. I always thought she was being held back by something or someone because she kept calling me trouble, dangerous, "we aren't allowed to like each other because we are both trouble", etc etc

Yes also highly likely there's another guy, it's best just to leave it and find some new girls man. It's the best way to get over this girl.

Yeah I know that's the true and tested way. I have been with other girls since and still am talking to other ones, but for some damn reason I really like this girl, she was really my type and I never say that about a girl. I never crush this hard. And because I'm still crushing on her, I don't even have the drive or the will to put in an effort to go see other girls, because I just don't feel like it, I don't care about seeing them and I can't push myself enough to just go even if I don't have feelings for them. It's a beta feeling, let me tell you that!

Here's my diagnosis - oneitis. Here have a listen to Dr Bojangles and here's my action plan for you

Oneitis is a disease that presents a total incapacitation of the man’s logic, reason and interest in hobbies, hygiene and restful sleep. We’ve all suffered from it and it happens all the time. A friend of mine has suffered from this recently, thanks to my intervention he is slowly getting over this and has nearly forgotten all about the lady from afar who he lusted for unnaturally.

It exists in two forms, a precoital and postcoital expression. The precoital form occurs when two things happen: A girl who imitates a precise beauty of the face that closely matches the template that the man carries in his head for a perfect woman and if this girl is within the man’s visual and aural field. The postcoital form comes when the same as above is met but the man has had sexual relations with the girl and no longer does (the “no girl will ever be as good as her” crap).

Roissy puts is as thus:

Beauty + proximity = acute oneitis

Beauty + former proximity + memories = malignant oneitis

The second is more damaging to a man’s self esteem and in the long term health as it’s resistant to therapeutic intervention.

” Acute oneitis is often solved rather simply by administering an alpha-pak of anti-obsessives, which are slutty women almost as good looking as the infectious agent but more enzymatically compatible. Side effects include drowsiness after finally busting a nut in a flesh and blood sex partner.”

The victim is burdened with obsessive-compulsive daydreaming when the object of lust is not present. It also leads to blinding the man from alternative sexual opportunities in his midst.

Curing this disease?

Let’s get to the cause of the malignant oneitis.

1. Investment

Naturally you are going to value that which took time and effort winning over. Man naturally assigns a much higher value to her than to himself.

Cure

- Take a month off from actively skirt chasing.

- Don’t burn your ex’s photos, but do store them in a lockbox in the attic where it would be a pain for you to conveniently access. Burning photos and other memorabilia is a powerfully symbolic act that ironically reinforces her importance in your life. Better to nonchalantly store that shit like it was any other old knickknack you no longer have use for.

- When you return to the field, focus on gaming girls hotter than what you are used to. This is like weightlifting: you need to incrementally go up in difficulty to see any progress. The challenge will help you concentrate on the present instead of the past.

- When you meet a girl you really like, invest in her. Don’t go for the bang right away. You want to increase her value in your mind, and the way to do that is, one, to make sure she’s hot, and two, to take your time winning her over. Sluts are not gonna cure your oneitis, but hard-to-get girls will.

- Finally, if none of the above works, scour the earth for a woman who is as beautifully evil as your ex was, and fall in love with her before you’ve said “hi”. The ensuing passionate fling and humiliating breakup should replace your old oneitis with a new oneitis, which, if nothing else, is at least a change of scenery.

The above I got from somewhere (Heartiste, possibly Krauser? Rollo?) and wrote it up but it was again held in one of the numerous .txt files i've got saved up on the net regarding Game.

Lol that's amazing. My standards have always been really high naturally, not by choice really. So I'm always on the lookout for a dime, and this will never change. I'm sure I'll meet a lady to replace that one soon, but it seems like the more you actually LOOK for it, the less likely they come around.

Post: #22

good luck lad

Post: #23

(02-04-2013 11:44 AM)salmonfella Wrote:  When a girl calls you her friend is that it game over or is there anyway to get her in the bed? i know a girl she is hot and comeing from a small town with not a lot of women i dont want to lose the possiable chance of geting her in the bed but she just said them famous words to me.'I am so glad we are just friends'. Is there any hope or should i just cut my losses and move on?

I've banged women while they called me "their friend." It's all how you frame it. IF you try to fool around with her and she acts suprised and says "We're just friends... right?" then it means she never saw you sexually in the first place.

HOWEVER, if this is a frequent thing and girls keep reffering to you as their friend and you have not done anything sexually with them, then you most certainly sir need to step your game up.

I'm not going to go in depth about that because there are a lot of game materials that approach getting out of the frienzone, not only here, but through google and about any site that deals with pick up.

Post: #24

Whenever a girl puts me in the "friends-zone". I just ignore it. I refuse to be a friend. The more she thinks of me as a friend the more I try to bang her. 1 of 2 things will happen. Either she will bang or the "friendship" will end because she wasn't comfortable with my aggression. Fuck me or leave me alone. Those are her options.

1bliss,

Here is my advice..

Tell her you are not attracted to her and you only like her as a friend. Invite her out drinking. Get her drunk and alone. Try to bang her.

Repeat this until it works or she ends the friendship.