Post: #1

Ha, Jeffy from RSD stirring up shit.
Hate to give Jezebel traffic, but check out the link for photos.

http://jezebel.com/5980600/prominent-pic...on-okcupid

Quote:Jeff "Jeffy" Allen is a big league pick-up artist instructor who has published multiple books and DVDs on the craft of treating women like shiny gold coins in a video game. He's also the owner of San Francisco's well-known "Freedom Van," which he calls his "rape van," and a pathetically avid OkCupid troll. Please stay far, far away from him.

Last August, Amanda, a 26-year old Marketing Manager for a software company based in San Francisco, received an message on OKCupid from Captain_Derp. His initial missive was obnoxiously twee — "Um. Hi. Anyways, I feel you appear attractive and consequently would like to explore the possibility of enhancing your life by means of exposure to my awesomeness kthxbai" — but she was curious about a photo on his profile, captioned: "Consensual Sex in the Missionary Position For the Sole Purpose of Reproduction Van. I painted it myself."

That's a van many SF residents have seen parked around the Mission District, notable for its "2 Pac R.I.P FOreva" and "Freedomn is not Free" signs. Local blog Mission Mission wrote about it this week, asking "Why isn't everyone talking about the 9/11 Tupac Freedomn van?" Amanda was likewise intrigued.

"Don't get me wrong, I'm not usually attracted to explicit douche bags but I immediately felt refreshed after scanning hundreds of profiles depicting young startup professionals that are just 'enjoying our beautiful city' and love to cook, travel, and rock climb," Amanda wrote on her Facebook wall. "Every motherfucker on okcupid rock climbs. So I wrote back and let him know that if that was in fact his van, I would go on a date with him. His response was that he was busy promoting his clothing line in vegas and I should text him. Note: all of his t-shirts say "beast mode" on them. At this point I figured I would probably be better off not meeting him and it was only later when he reached out again that I decided, fuck it, YOLO!"

Captain_Derp asked her to meet him at a tapas bar, but the morning of their date she had a change of heart, and messaged him to say as much:

Prominent Pick-Up Artist Drives a 'Rape Van' and Harasses Women on OkCupid

In response, he wrote, "Why am I not surprised. Eat a bag of dicks" and "Also, I guarantee your date with me would be far more horrifying than these last two amateurs you went out with. I drive a fucking RAPE VAN. Ps you're fat." Lovely.

When Amanda posted about her experience on Facebook, she realized she wasn't the only woman to be drawn in by Captain_Derp — her friends quickly told her that his real identity is Jeff "Jeffy" Allen, a prominent pick-up artist who has been teaching live dating boot camps since 2003 — he works for Real Social Dynamics, Tyler Durden's company — and has released DVDs and books.

In Get Laid or Die Trying: The Field Reports he's described as such:

The undisputed king of the field report was a player named "jlaix." This was the handle of Jeff Allen, who would go on to be a founding member of Real Social Dynamics with Tyler Durden and Papa, all of whom play major roles in Neil Strauss's The Game, the bestselling exposÉ of the world of pickup artists. In an arena founded on one-upmanship, Jeff Allen did it bigger and better than anyone. Get Laid or Die Trying presents in utterly shameless, hilarious, and graphic detail, Jeffy's gritty, 100 percent real, and jaw-droppingly astonishing feats of seduction...

His fans apparently love him not only for his tips on "Attracting the girl you want by sleeping with all of her friends" and "Convincing a girl you just met that before you fuck her, she must mow your lawn" but for his character. "...i think a lot of what Jeffy / RSD do is great," wrote one Amazon reviewer. "They not only help guys become good with women, but also help develop your confidence and character with out scripts or canned lines." A DVD reviewer stresses how his systems "help you create a weird, synergistic effect that helps not only your love life, but all other areas too."

So the ideal pick-up artist develops his confidence by bragging about his "rape van" and calling women who reject him fat? Amanda's not the only woman in her social circle who interacted with Allen online; he asked one of her friends to meet him at the same tapas bar a few years back and "wear something sexy." When she declined, he called her a bitch and was so proud of the exchange that he posted it on his Facebook:

text exchange w woman after setting up date:
Me: wear something hot. so we match.
her: what makes you think im inclined to dress hot for strangers
me: actually, forget it, never mind... you sound like a pain in the ass

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Is it wishful thinking to hope that maybe some potential PUAs-in-training will stay away from Allen if they know the extent of his ridiculous dickitude? Probably. (Sigh.) But hey, San Franciscans: watch out for this van. We're not suggesting you egg it or anything, but, you know, we're not suggesting you don't, either.

Post: #2

I think Jeffy sounds like a try-hard. "Wear something hot so we match" is pretty damn try-hard.

But his game obviously works if they're writing articles about him, and if the slunts of OKCupid are responding to him.

Post: #3

I was most surprised that he is on OK Cupid. Why is a prominent PUA who travels the world teaching seminars and workshops wasting time with the dregs of the dating world (online).

Post: #4

(02-01-2013 01:56 PM)Smitty Wrote:  I was most surprised that he is on OK Cupid. Why is a prominent PUA who travels the world teaching seminars and workshops wasting time with the dregs of the dating world (online).

So he can write an ebook after

Post: #5

So if he drives a "Rape Van", clearly he's raped lots of girls, right?

Post: #6

Careful guys. Messaging girls online is harrasment now.

Post: #7

Here he shows of the van:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fqKHluYLgw

Post: #8

Thanks for posting the meat. As others have mentioned before, withholding traffic from that site is necessary.

Post: #9

"Last August, Amanda, a 26-year old Marketing Manager for a software company..."

Well, it's official. Every woman in America is now a "marketing manager." Or at least all the ones that get interviewed. That's all I got from this article.

(Addendum: "marketing manager" is not a proper noun and does not require caps. They can't even get that part right.)

Post: #10

"Judge, just because it's called the rape van, doesn't mean I rape women. I swear the sex was consensual."

Post: #11

(02-01-2013 03:21 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  "Last August, Amanda, a 26-year old Marketing Manager for a software company..."

Well, it's official. Every woman in America is now a "marketing manager." Or at least all the ones that get interviewed. That's all I got from this article.

(Addendum: "marketing manager" is not a proper noun and does not require caps. They can't even get that part right.)

What the hell is a "marketing manager" anyway? Just one of a thousand other meaningless titles they use to give women jobs?

Post: #12

It's fascinating all the open hate the "nice guys" these women profess to want are getting in the comments. The woman in the story admits to ignoring all of them and going straight for the jerk. Then she gets all upset that he actually is one.

Post: #13

Anyone notice how in the comments section both males and females are encouraging people to vandalize his van?

Civility only exists for feminist, so long as they get what 'they' want. Though, I doubt any of them would have the balls to actually go through with it.

Post: #14

(02-01-2013 01:56 PM)Smitty Wrote:  I was most surprised that he is on OK Cupid. Why is a prominent PUA who travels the world teaching seminars and workshops wasting time with the dregs of the dating world (online).

Jlaix Wrote:I fuck around with everything, like it's my motherfuckin job. oh wait it is. It's not work at all and frankly I see it as a more productive alternative to checking facebook. and by productive i mean PRODUCES MY DICK INSIDE PUSSY.

Post: #15

Quote:I immediately felt refreshed after scanning hundreds of profiles depicting young startup professionals that are just 'enjoying our beautiful city' and love to cook, travel, and rock climb," Amanda wrote on her Facebook wall.

The fucking standards of these bitzes...

Post: #16

Looks like he stole my idea. I had a suit and all made out.

Post: #17

Fuck Jezebel, but I thought this article was funny as shit.

I read some comments and it appears Jeffy has somewhat of a tendency to throw tantrums when he doesn't get laid.

"When he comes back up, he has ZERO clothes on. (I still have my dress on). AND he has grabbed a condom and is putting it on. At this point, I'm like OK, BUDDY. LETS TAKE IT DOWN A NOTCH. total time since kissing began- definitely less than 20 minutes.

He FLIPS the FUCK out. Jumps up and starts berating me, gesturing at his (now limp) dick, saying,"LOOK at what you did to me!!" and "are you kidding me? After all that time I spent on you??". It was now that I started thinking about whether I was strong enough to beat him off me, should it come to that."

When I read that comment, I immediately burst out laughing. The whole image of a dude screaming and pointing at his limp dick is just hilarious.

Post: #18

Why are you reading Jezebel? It's a blog for ugly women with self image issues.

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Post: #20

Quote:"Don't get me wrong, I'm not usually attracted to explicit douche bags but I immediately felt refreshed after scanning hundreds of profiles depicting young startup professionals that are just 'enjoying our beautiful city' and love to cook, travel, and rock climb," Amanda wrote on her Facebook wall. "Every motherfucker on okcupid rock climbs. So I wrote back and let him know that if that was in fact his van, I would go on a date with him. His response was that he was busy promoting his clothing line in vegas and I should text him. Note: all of his t-shirts say "beast mode" on them. At this point I figured I would probably be better off not meeting him and it was only later when he reached out again that I decided, fuck it, YOLO!"

The backwards rationalization astounds me. Scientific studies need to be done on this logic-bending style of critical thinking.

Post: #21

(02-02-2013 11:06 PM)Andy_B Wrote:  Fuck Jezebel, but I thought this article was funny as shit.

I read some comments and it appears Jeffy has somewhat of a tendency to throw tantrums when he doesn't get laid.

"When he comes back up, he has ZERO clothes on. (I still have my dress on). AND he has grabbed a condom and is putting it on. At this point, I'm like OK, BUDDY. LETS TAKE IT DOWN A NOTCH. total time since kissing began- definitely less than 20 minutes.

He FLIPS the FUCK out. Jumps up and starts berating me, gesturing at his (now limp) dick, saying,"LOOK at what you did to me!!" and "are you kidding me? After all that time I spent on you??". It was now that I started thinking about whether I was strong enough to beat him off me, should it come to that."

When I read that comment, I immediately burst out laughing. The whole image of a dude screaming and pointing at his limp dick is just hilarious.

For $3000 he can teach you how to do that as well.

Post: #22

(02-03-2013 03:55 AM)magellan Wrote:  

Quote:"Don't get me wrong, I'm not usually attracted to explicit douche bags but I immediately felt refreshed after scanning hundreds of profiles depicting young startup professionals that are just 'enjoying our beautiful city' and love to cook, travel, and rock climb," Amanda wrote on her Facebook wall. "Every motherfucker on okcupid rock climbs. So I wrote back and let him know that if that was in fact his van, I would go on a date with him. His response was that he was busy promoting his clothing line in vegas and I should text him. Note: all of his t-shirts say "beast mode" on them. At this point I figured I would probably be better off not meeting him and it was only later when he reached out again that I decided, fuck it, YOLO!"

The backwards rationalization astounds me. Scientific studies need to be done on this logic-bending style of critical thinking.

Haha, I know, she just admitted that it works on chicks. And the part which says "Don't go near this man" is like free advertising for him.

Post: #23

(02-02-2013 11:06 PM)Andy_B Wrote:  "When he comes back up, he has ZERO clothes on. (I still have my dress on). AND he has grabbed a condom and is putting it on. At this point, I'm like OK, BUDDY. LETS TAKE IT DOWN A NOTCH. total time since kissing began- definitely less than 20 minutes.

He FLIPS the FUCK out. Jumps up and starts berating me, gesturing at his (now limp) dick, saying,"LOOK at what you did to me!!" and "are you kidding me? After all that time I spent on you??". It was now that I started thinking about whether I was strong enough to beat him off me, should it come to that."

I couldn't find that comment. I guess Jezebel deleted it?

Post: #24

Girls don't understand that once that condom goes on, sex must proceed within 30 seconds. There should be a PSA for this.

Post: #25

Check this thread on the Jezebel comments section out, total hamster in effect:

http://jezebel.com/5980600/?post=56957823

Guy talks about what he did to get responses from women on Okcupid and it was online game 101. Send whacky, off the wall slightly ass-holish messages that gets the girl worked up. The girl can't help but reply and he reels them with more game. The females in the thread make comments trying to shame him for using "slimy tactics" instead of being respectful and he points out in one of his replies to these posts that back when he would send out messages along the lines of "I'm a decent guy with a stable career that goes rock climbing on the weekend" he got no play whatsoever and that once he switched up his messages and profile to be more teasing and cocky he started getting a complete reversal when it comes to results. If you guys read the Jezebel article you'll notice that the girl who got messaged by Jeffy actually talked about how she was getting bored of seeing all the professional nice guys that was messaging her and she almost went on a date with him BECAUSE of his crazy over the top peacocking accessory (his fan).