I have read this thread for a long time. I have to ask about Ukraine. I remember a lot of positive things being said about Ukraine, but this video says otherwise. Anyone seen this video on youtube were pretty much every girl said they wouldn't date/marry black guy? I was surprised. I thought people said Ukraine girls/euro girls were more open minded and didn't care about race as much as America. This video almost makes me not want to visit there or does it not represent most feelings about black men? I do like their honesty, sometimes I feel like girls give safe answers regarding questions like this. Just tell me how you really feel, so guys wont waste their time. But does anyone have experience with Ukraine? Check video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkAb-aBH97g

(05-09-2018 10:09 AM)bay224 Wrote:  I have read this thread for a long time. I have to ask about Ukraine. I remember a lot of positive things being said about Ukraine, but this video says otherwise. Anyone seen this video on youtube were pretty much every girl said they wouldn't date/marry black guy? I was surprised. I thought people said Ukraine girls/euro girls were more open minded and didn't care about race as much as America. This video almost makes me not want to visit there or does it not represent most feelings about black men? I do like their honesty, sometimes I feel like girls give safe answers regarding questions like this. Just tell me how you really feel, so guys wont waste their time. But does anyone have experience with Ukraine? Check video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkAb-aBH97g

You need to watch that video again. They interviewed a total of about 6 or 7 women, of whom 2 seemed open to the idea. In fact one specifically said that she thought black dudes were more attractive. So that's 2/7 which is close to 30%. If that's any indication of general interest (I know this is highly unscientific, but still), then considering that Ukraine has such a high concentration of hotties, I don't see why a well put together black dude who spoke the language and understood the culture wouldn't do at least reasonably well.

That said, do keep in mind that EE is in general a less politically correct place, and I think also a bit more racist, than, say, Western/Northern Europe. Something to keep in mind during your travels so you can plan accordingly. As a minority guy myself, I personally would stick to the big/medium sized cities where people have at least a passing familiarity with those that look different than themselves.

If you're looking into Ukraine I assume you're interested in Slavic women in general. When I was in Poland some years ago, one of the hottest girls I saw there was walking arm-in-arm with a Black guy. I think he was American. It would be wise to consider not just Ukraine but also some of the other countries in that part of the world. If you read the autobiography of Malcolm X, there is a part there where he talks about Polish women back in the day (in NYC) sneaking out to secretly hook up with Black guys.

Here in the States most of the white girls I see with Black dudes happen to be either American or Scandinavian. But location can change a lot of things, so if you're interested in a place, best to put boots on the ground.

(05-09-2018 11:19 AM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 10:09 AM)bay224 Wrote:  I have read this thread for a long time. I have to ask about Ukraine. I remember a lot of positive things being said about Ukraine, but this video says otherwise. Anyone seen this video on youtube were pretty much every girl said they wouldn't date/marry black guy? I was surprised. I thought people said Ukraine girls/euro girls were more open minded and didn't care about race as much as America. This video almost makes me not want to visit there or does it not represent most feelings about black men? I do like their honesty, sometimes I feel like girls give safe answers regarding questions like this. Just tell me how you really feel, so guys wont waste their time. But does anyone have experience with Ukraine? Check video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkAb-aBH97g

You need to watch that video again. They interviewed a total of about 6 or 7 women, of whom 2 seemed open to the idea. In fact one specifically said that she thought black dudes were more attractive. So that's 2/7 which is close to 30%. If that's any indication of general interest (I know this is highly unscientific, but still), then considering that Ukraine has such a high concentration of hotties, I don't see why a well put together black dude who spoke the language and understood the culture wouldn't do at least reasonably well.

That said, do keep in mind that EE is in general a less politically correct place, and I think also a bit more racist, than, say, Western/Northern Europe. Something to keep in mind during your travels so you can plan accordingly. As a minority guy myself, I personally would stick to the big/medium sized cities where people have at least a passing familiarity with those that look different than themselves.

If you're looking into Ukraine I assume you're interested in Slavic women in general. When I was in Poland some years ago, one of the hottest girls I saw there was walking arm-in-arm with a Black guy. I think he was American. It would be wise to consider not just Ukraine but also some of the other countries in that part of the world. If you read the autobiography of Malcolm X, there is a part there where he talks about Polish women back in the day (in NYC) sneaking out to secretly hook up with Black guys.

Here in the States most of the white girls I see with Black dudes happen to be either American or Scandinavian. But location can change a lot of things, so if you're interested in a place, best to put boots on the ground.

Also in the video a couple of the girls were with another guy that could possibly be a boyfriend, friend, brother etc. I think a girl would be more unlikely to say they're open to interracial relationships when they have a guy of their race right beside them especially if that guy is their boyfriend.

(05-09-2018 12:52 PM)pargan Wrote:  Also in the video a couple of the girls were with another guy that could possibly be a boyfriend, friend, brother etc. I think a girl would be more unlikely to say they're open to interracial relationships when they have a guy of their race right beside them especially if that guy is their boyfriend.

Exactly, I was about to add that as well.

There are much better countries in EE for black guys, Croatia, Serbia, Romania...

Yeah I’m going to Mexico over 1Q19. Nextstop - you’ve cemented it with that photo.

You'll love it. I recommend you stay in Polanco

(05-09-2018 10:09 AM)bay224 Wrote:  I have read this thread for a long time. I have to ask about Ukraine. I remember a lot of positive things being said about Ukraine, but this video says otherwise. Anyone seen this video on youtube were pretty much every girl said they wouldn't date/marry black guy? I was surprised. I thought people said Ukraine girls/euro girls were more open minded and didn't care about race as much as America. This video almost makes me not want to visit there or does it not represent most feelings about black men? I do like their honesty, sometimes I feel like girls give safe answers regarding questions like this. Just tell me how you really feel, so guys wont waste their time. But does anyone have experience with Ukraine? Check video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkAb-aBH97g

I suspect black in Ukrainian/Russian may mean, or may be synonymous with black African. As in straight from Africa. I encountered a difference in treatment in Germany based on Country of Origin instead of just skin color.

I think a black guy from a 1st world western country. IE US, UK, Canada etc. Will be looked at differently than the random black guy.

However lets assume the majority of women in the Ukraine are not into black guys, for LTRs, flings, or even ONS.

The population of Kiev is 2.8 Million. Out of that number roughly half should be women. That gives you 1.4mill. Then about a third of that number should be within the 18 - 25 age group that gives you 420,000.

If just 10% of those women are into black guys that is 42,000 women.

For a city roughly the size of NYC. It should not be too hard for brothers that are on vacation to find a few of them.

(05-10-2018 04:35 PM)Ogunn Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 10:09 AM)bay224 Wrote:  I have read this thread for a long time. I have to ask about Ukraine. I remember a lot of positive things being said about Ukraine, but this video says otherwise. Anyone seen this video on youtube were pretty much every girl said they wouldn't date/marry black guy? I was surprised. I thought people said Ukraine girls/euro girls were more open minded and didn't care about race as much as America. This video almost makes me not want to visit there or does it not represent most feelings about black men? I do like their honesty, sometimes I feel like girls give safe answers regarding questions like this. Just tell me how you really feel, so guys wont waste their time. But does anyone have experience with Ukraine? Check video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkAb-aBH97g

I suspect black in Ukrainian/Russian may mean, or may be synonymous with black African. As in straight from Africa. I encountered a difference in treatment in Germany based on Country of Origin instead of just skin color.

I think a black guy from a 1st world western country. IE US, UK, Canada etc. Will be looked at differently than the random black guy.

I endorse your observation about Germany. However, do note that the girls/people wont be able to tell you are from a 1st world country until you open your mouth because they can't tell the difference between Africans and African Americans. This will cause issues in certain things but I don't want to derail the thread.

Hmmm Kirdiesel Im going to have to disagree with you on that playa. Depends on your location,looks, style and confidence. Not sure your Area has Black Americans like that or gets a lot comin through. But they can def tell in the cities I lived in or frequented often such as Nuremberg, Munchen and Frankfurt.

(05-11-2018 02:23 AM)International_Casanova Wrote:  Hmmm Kirdiesel Im going to have to disagree with you on that playa. Depends on your location,looks, style and confidence. Not sure your Area has Black Americans like that or gets a lot comin through. But they can def tell in the cities I lived in or frequented often such as Nuremberg, Munchen and Frankfurt.

I agree, I am African but more importantly im from Southern Africa, which is well developed and a completely different world from the rest of Africa, just saying. Im black and without sounding harsh, I have been privileged enough to live better than even most black Americans. When you're in Southern Africa you can tell by the accent someone speaks with where they stand economically and in education. South Africa is very similar to Australia in terms of "mainstream modern international culture", our most successful sport is Rugby etc and with places like Cape Town, Durban and Johannesburg etc, i dont think the blanket "African" tag suits us when it comes to economics or class sometimes, if you met me I would probably be confused for being either British or American because modern, educated and successful black dudes in Southern Africa have accents that are kinda in-between the two. Anyone who has traveled to South Africa will confirm this. At the University i went to in South Africa, even here German girls are known to have "jungle fever" everyone knows it but it has to be obviously modern black African who is clearly middle class and above, which correlates with the American thing.

(05-10-2018 06:14 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(05-10-2018 04:35 PM)Ogunn Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 10:09 AM)bay224 Wrote:  I have read this thread for a long time. I have to ask about Ukraine. I remember a lot of positive things being said about Ukraine, but this video says otherwise. Anyone seen this video on youtube were pretty much every girl said they wouldn't date/marry black guy? I was surprised. I thought people said Ukraine girls/euro girls were more open minded and didn't care about race as much as America. This video almost makes me not want to visit there or does it not represent most feelings about black men? I do like their honesty, sometimes I feel like girls give safe answers regarding questions like this. Just tell me how you really feel, so guys wont waste their time. But does anyone have experience with Ukraine? Check video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkAb-aBH97g

I suspect black in Ukrainian/Russian may mean, or may be synonymous with black African. As in straight from Africa. I encountered a difference in treatment in Germany based on Country of Origin instead of just skin color.

I think a black guy from a 1st world western country. IE US, UK, Canada etc. Will be looked at differently than the random black guy.

I endorse your observation about Germany. However, do note that the girls/people wont be able to tell you are from a 1st world country until you open your mouth because they can't tell the difference between Africans and African Americans. This will cause issues in certain things but I don't want to derail the thread.

Not just in German but in many parts of Europe, unless you are in some tourist ghetto or near an overseas military base, most people can't tell the difference between Africans, African Americans and 2nd generation Afro-Finnish, Afro-French,....Afro-whatever. Not visually.

While the visual differences are painfully obvious to us, most Europeans don't know what to look for beyond clothing. And most Afro descendents in Europe try their best to dress like whatever they see in Black American media. I don't really blame Europeans, most Americans can't tell a Puerto Rican from a Mexican or Cuban. Or, a Korean from a Chinese or a Vietnamese. So I'm not too surprised.

Obviously if you are in a group 3 brothas deep, speaking loud American English on the street people can tell. But rolling dolo hopping on a metro train or just going about your day, they can't tell unless you are a super lightskin brotha or heavily tatted (You dont see many tats on Africans in Europe).

How's the race situation like in New York? I'm considering moving there. Would a younger black guy be harassed a lot over there and is the discrimination as heavy as some people say? I read before how it's more segregated then the south and desegregation never really happened in NY. If anyones living over there or has been let me know.

(05-11-2018 10:52 AM)pargan Wrote:  How's the race situation like in New York? I'm considering moving there. Would a younger black guy be harassed a lot over there and is the discrimination as heavy as some people say? I read before how it's more segregated then the south and desegregation never really happened in NY. If anyones living over there or has been let me know.

Who the hell said that? Unless you're living in a hood, it is like living in any rich ass city.

For black guys in Asia or Eastern Europe - do you guys take care of your own hair or go bald?

Something tells me East Asians would massively prefer low cut hair....

Just based on my interactions with them in West....

Some South American pussy waiting for me.



Argentina might be an under appreciated gem (dont see much chat about it].

The girls are hot like Brazilians but they speak much better english so gaming shouldn't b as difficult. Looking forward to taking that trip to see for myself.

Many people say Vancouver is one of the best places for black guys. However Vancouver is full of asians and in general asians are the group that give blacks the least play. So are asians in Vancouver more open to black guys then your average asian? Or is vancouver just really good for black guy/white girl but not black guy/asian girl?

(05-13-2018 01:30 PM)pargan Wrote:  Many people say Vancouver is one of the best places for black guys. However Vancouver is full of asians and in general asians are the group that give blacks the least play. So are asians in Vancouver more open to black guys then your average asian? Or is vancouver just really good for black guy/white girl but not black guy/asian girl?

Asian girls give dudes with money the most play.

If you got that, you shouldn't have a problem with them whatever your race. I know from experience. I live in the SF area where they are heavy. And date a couple of them now. I'm a black dude. I don't have money, but look and act like I do.

Anyone try the korean girls in Los Angeles? Are they open to black guys or are they kind of closed off?

What's good out in far East Canada?

I never see any talk from brothers about Halifax and that whole region. I checked Tinder and there and saw a few baddies out there, Black, white and mixed race.
Are American brothas sleeping on it?

(05-16-2018 07:50 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  What's good out in far East Canada?

I never see any talk from brothers about Halifax and that whole region. I checked Tinder and there and saw a few baddies out there, Black, white and mixed race.
Are American brothas sleeping on it?

I been to the maritime provinces a few times, I think they like brothers up there. The male competition up there is pretty shit from what I've seen in general

(05-16-2018 07:50 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  What's good out in far East Canada?

I never see any talk from brothers about Halifax and that whole region. I checked Tinder and there and saw a few baddies out there, Black, white and mixed race.
Are American brothas sleeping on it?

Check out St John's Newfoundland.

Those girls like to party and have a good time.

(05-16-2018 07:50 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  What's good out in far East Canada?

I never see any talk from brothers about Halifax and that whole region. I checked Tinder and there and saw a few baddies out there, Black, white and mixed race.
Are American brothas sleeping on it?

Scotian women have a infamous freak stigma attached to them in Canada. They're different to every other major city black populace in Canada as they're not of West Indian descent like Toronto or Montreal blacks.....but descendants of runaway slaves from the U.S. I find they talk very similar to African Americans.

There's this annual basketball tournament that goes on in Halifax I'm not sure if it still goes on....ironically it takes place at the end of May if I remember. It attracts 100s if not 1000s of visitors that weekend

About 15 - 18 years ago like 4 of my boys flew out from here to compete in the tournament.

I don't know how or where they met but they met a crew of girls. (That weekend there are huge parties and several DJs/promoters from Toronto fly out there.). They ended up filming a wild hotel romp with like 4 or 5 girls, black mixed and a white one.

Here's the hilarious part:

So they all wake up in the morning and one of the girls says

"Who's hungry for breakfast?" They hopped in 2 cars....and ended up at one of their homes....one of their mothers made everyone breakfast.....lolol.

They told me the girls looked at Toronto guys as the shit......the black guys out in Halifax were all broke and didn't have much ambition in life. I'm sure a black American would be viewed similarly.

I actually was at the club like 2 months ago and this newly arrived Scotian approached me (or so I thought). She easily blew away any sista I've seen in Toronto for years....I'd have rated her a 8.5/10. I can't say every girl from there looks like her but wow she was hot!

Too bad her purpose for talking to me was she just wanted to know where she could score some blow...smh.

(04-29-2010 01:12 PM)Rocco81 Wrote:  I think it depends, but the places you might get the most attention and stand out as rare and exotic to the women, you might also get a lot of negative attention from the dudes. For instance I was out in the middle nowhere Bolivia and the girls were all staring at me becuase they don't see white guys with blue eyes ever, but the men also seemed more stand offish and protective than normal making it a little uncomfortable to approach.

Bieng black if you go to let's say Germany in a medium or small cities for instance you will find allot of girls that think that all black are cool or that all black dudes are straight out of a hip hop video...be prepared to get questions about 'gangsta' shit ..they just do not know any better don't get offended. On the other hand you go to a big city like Berlin or Hamburg, where they have some African and Caribean immigrants then my friend, you have pretty much lost your exotic value. That is not to say you won't get laid, but it will be more like you are in the USA. You def. won't get any puss from girls who are just curious like you will in a sheltered homogenous town.

I disagree, though your point about exoticism appears to coincide. For instance, Black dudes are exotic any place outside of the Western hemisphere and Africa. However, being a black dude in Asia, is not great, nor Eastern Europe. Being black is great in countries with severe Hollywood influence, N. America and W. Europe. Japan was also good for a time.