Post: #1

Just something to think about.... Rooshs' post Decline of American women really got me thinking. In 1963 Little Peggy March scored a number one hit with "I will follow him" i'm sure you all have heard the song before but just in case you need a refresher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf1e_kc6jUQ

if you have time just listen to the lyrics...

Fast forward to 2006 and Pink had a hit song it went top ten i'm sure you've heard the song "U+Ur hand"

Listen to these lyrics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkNnceNJXz0

43 years pass in between these songs and I think its pretty obvious just by listening how the culture has changed.

Post: #2

Interesting find. When I was a teenager, I was friends with a DJ who owned a record store, and he'd play me records like that. And the following one.

There was a hit around the same time called "Bobby's Girl" by Marcie Blaine that drove feminists crazy because Marcia's sole ambition in life was to be nothing but Bobby's girl. Amusing.

I expect women like P!nk to be feminist in their songs. What I find disturbing is that the so-called traditional women in today's country music became feminist as hell sometime during the 1990s. This happened around the time Shania Twain exploded. I think her song "Any Man of Mine" changed the game. I'm not posting a link. No need to ever hear that song again.

Post: #3

The 1960's was the only era in history where good music corresponded with popular music. It was social freak event.

In general, popular music throughout history was crap.

Mozart struggled to make popular music, for example, and was buried like he was trailer trash.

Salieri, his contemporary, was a rockstar for his age, very popular and successful. His music has since then been considered mediocre.

Also what's sad about modern pop music is the emphasis on 'the beat.'

Music from the 60's has emphasis on vocals and harmony.

Now you can make a hit record by making a tune that goes like this:
Dub dub dub dub dub dub dub dub dub dub dub dub dub dub dub dub

In general, popular = mediocre, except for a short tiny golden age around the 60's.

Anyway, lyrics that treat men as throwaway objects are probably more frequent today, but existed in the 60's too:

Post: #4

It's a kinda strange song and in some way original in its text but I just love this one:





Now compare it with the stupid hit "Shots" by LMFAO...
That's what most of the young guys listen to.

Post: #5

(01-11-2013 01:41 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  What I find disturbing is that the so-called traditional women in today's country music became feminist as hell sometime during the 1990s. This happened around the time Shania Twain exploded. I think her song "Any Man of Mine" changed the game. I'm not posting a link. No need to ever hear that song again.

Her songs are just like online female profiles

Post: #6

(01-11-2013 05:57 AM)houston Wrote:  Her songs are just like online female profiles

Nailed it.

Post: #7

Here's some shit for you. Listen to this oldie and listen carefully to the lyrics and imagine what the roaring laughter would ensue if such verses came out of Rihanna or Ke$ha's mouth today. Look at the contrast in expressiveness of feelings.





Aloofness and emotional subtlety didn't exist in music then. The music was free of female narcissism. They only sang about love and wanting to attract a man.

Now even the woman that sang this song has been corrupted by changing times. Here she is in the 50s, she just looks like a sweetheart that would write a song like Johnny Angel:





Here she is now:





I guess by the end of this year she'll have a Skrillex cut.

Post: #8

Shelley Fabares was pretty hot in her day. Used to watch her on "The Donna Reed Show" on TV Land.

PS: That's a wig. I've seen her in a video being interviewed with it on. I'm pretty sure she suffered hair loss after a liver transplant. Probably due to something hormonal.

For her best song (IMO) Google "Lost Summer Love."

(01-11-2013 07:45 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  Here's some shit for you. Listen to this oldie and listen carefully to the lyrics and imagine what the roaring laughter would ensue if such verses came out of Rihanna or Ke$ha's mouth today. Look at the contrast in expressiveness of feelings.





Aloofness and emotional subtlety didn't exist in music then. The music was free of female narcissism. They only sang about love and wanting to attract a man.

Now even the woman that sang this song has been corrupted by changing times. Here she is in the 50s, she just looks like a sweetheart that would write a song like Johnny Angel:





Here she is now:





I guess by the end of this year she'll have a Skrillex cut.

Post: #9

I wrote a whole post on this topic a while back:

Music: Then and Now

http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2011/02/mus...d-now.html

Post: #10

(01-11-2013 02:15 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  The 1960's was the only era in history where good music corresponded with popular music. It was social freak event.

In general, popular music throughout history was crap.

1970´s wasn´t too bad either. Back then, popular music would even teach you something about history:





...russians.

Post: #11

at THomas the Rhymer:

late sixties is totally different from early. Late sixities represents the aftereffects of teh cultural revolution.

Post: #12

(01-11-2013 09:34 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I wrote a whole post on this topic a while back:

Music: Then and Now

http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2011/02/mus...d-now.html

LMAO at comparing Minor Threat to Good Charlotte their fans would of shit themselves at a Minor Threat show.

Maybe it's because I grew up on it but everything on the radio in the 90's sounds a lot better than 2013 radio music. Maybe better bands and musicians had access to radio and Mtv back then? I don't know and don't feel like researching new bands when I still have so much old shit to check out again. It's just weird how even mosto f the generic, pop bands from the 90's sound a hell lot better than bubblegum shit out now.














I downloaded that first Counting Crows cd a few weeks ago and it still sounds great.