Thanks to those who responded previously to my question.

Got a new one now...

Met this cute 20 year old off tinder a few nights ago and had a SNL. Got coffee and food together the next morning. Seems into me I guess but you never know. I texted the typical "Had fun hope you did too" text a few hours later to protect my ass and she replied positively.

After fucking these chicks on this medium, how often do you guys typically text again? I've been reading the forums and other sources and most people say they don't text to start convos and only as a tool to meet up. So maybe a "how was your weekend" this sunday night and tell her I'd like to go see her again and set something up mid week. I don't want to go be going too long without contact. Realistically though, because I've already fucked her and if she's into me, I can say almost anything and be fine if she wants to meet again.

Thoughts?

Take a look at BlurredSevens zero date bangs thread. He uses tinder almost exclusively and he talks about his text and retention game too. It's a great read from start to finish (several pages) but worth it.

Thanks oregon. I'll check out the whole thread. The only thing that sucks now is my current living situation prevents me from bringing chicks back to my own place. Not the best but gotta make do for now.

(06-03-2015 03:52 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  My guess on the whole sapiosexual phenomenon is that these women have grown tired of the same old messages reading "sup", "yo" "DTF?" etc. and they're saying they want someone who can string a coherent sentence together to message them. Of course this is all said in the maddening, indirect way that women are known for...

I disagree.

It's nothing but self-aggrandising, narcissism and status signalling.

Its almost like we need a sheet on emoji talk. Some brkads talk exclusively in them, a dude at my work claims he set up a booty call with no use of words, just emojis, aside from giving his address.

Any girl younger than 21 you have to use them a ton. IMO they might see you as boring if you don't.

(06-07-2015 10:34 AM)kosko Wrote:  Its almost like we need a sheet on emoji talk. Some brkads talk exclusively in them, a dude at my work claims he set up a booty call with no use of words, just emojis, aside from giving his address.

Any girl younger than 21 you have to use them a ton. IMO they might see you as boring if you don't.

I use emojis a lot. Even girls in the 25-28 range are using them frequently now. It's almost to the point where I think she is a luddite if she isn't using them at least once in a while.

Personally, I think emojis are a major boon to text communication. For years, texts have been misinterpreted because they eliminate vocal tone, facial expressions, etc.

Emoji's reintroduce some of what is lost from verbal communication, and put it back into text-only conversation.

This is a bit more pyscho-babble than I normally like to post, but I think emoji's are a good tool for players to use. Don't be afraid to experiment with them!

Two things.

1. Noticing I'm getting more matches if I don't swipe too much. Tinder servers cant handle lots of data likely?

2. Been opening American white girls in Spanish. Response rate has been high so far.

(06-07-2015 05:56 PM)godzilla Wrote:  1. Noticing I'm getting more matches if I don't swipe too much. Tinder servers cant handle lots of data likely?

More likely they punish behavior that looks like auto-swiping.

(06-07-2015 07:30 PM)RockHard Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 05:56 PM)godzilla Wrote:  1. Noticing I'm getting more matches if I don't swipe too much. Tinder servers cant handle lots of data likely?

More likely they punish behavior that looks like auto-swiping.

^This. Keep it to short bursts.

Fuck man I gotta stop mass swiping.

I literally just matched the ugliest girl I have ever seen. Facial deformity ugly. I mean like horror movie ugly.

2 miles away. I live in a small city.

I know one of the girls she had in a couple of her photos. What the fuck.

Why is she even swiping right on a stud like me?

I mean what am I doing?

I almost feel bad. I mean this girl was just busted facially like another level. Body was alright but fuck. I can't imagine being on that level as a chick when your looks are such a huge part of your package.

If your handed that shitty genetic luck.

I had to unmatch straight away and duck. I pray I don't bump into her or her pal that I know in the street.

Quote:Book 3 dates for Thursday, on the day of at least one of them will cancel, if not then sexually escalate via text. Go out with the one that is mostly likely to bang, reschedule with the likely tease.

Refresh tinder...repeat process.

I triple booked a night once. I had tickets to a comedy show and figured 1 or 2 would flake. Sure enough, all 3 came through.. messaging me expecting to meet up. Picked the flyest and flaked on the other two. I was worried all 3 were gonna flake and I was gonna sit my sorry ass there alone.

Double booked another time. First girl flaked as expected, ended up meeting up with the second and getting the lay.

I think it's a good strategy to fight flaking. Could come off as a DHV when you have two on the hook and let one of them know you can't make it too, depending on the context.

Got back on Tinder last night. Wow, it's changed in the 18-24 months since I last looked on there. A lot of old people. Consequently I get nothing but 45+ year old post wall remnants, along with the occasional 25 year old fattie. Holy crap.

There are a few women in there that I can honestly say yeah, I could see myself at least having a drink with her. If her pictures are accurate.

I need to start lying about my age.

Besides a coffee shop (I'm under 21 so bars aren't an option), what's a good low-investment place to meet up with a girl off tinder to banter/escalate before inviting her to my apartment? It's probably going to be evening/late afternoon so coffee doesn't even make sense.

Also, whats a good excuse to invite her back to my house mid-date?

Bookstore? Park? Pet shop?

(06-10-2015 12:30 PM)depravity Wrote:  Besides a coffee shop (I'm under 21 so bars aren't an option), what's a good low-investment place to meet up with a girl off tinder to banter/escalate before inviting her to my apartment? It's probably going to be evening/late afternoon so coffee doesn't even make sense.

Also, whats a good excuse to invite her back to my house mid-date?

Have you read Bang yet? I think Roosh says the coffee shop is a bad move altogether, at least for inviting them back to your place afterward.

(06-10-2015 01:40 PM)GoSkins Wrote:  

(06-10-2015 12:30 PM)depravity Wrote:  Besides a coffee shop (I'm under 21 so bars aren't an option), what's a good low-investment place to meet up with a girl off tinder to banter/escalate before inviting her to my apartment? It's probably going to be evening/late afternoon so coffee doesn't even make sense.

Also, whats a good excuse to invite her back to my house mid-date?

Have you read Bang yet? I think Roosh says the coffee shop is a bad move altogether, at least for inviting them back to your place afterward.

nah, what does he recommend instead?

I haven't been able to login to Tinder all evening. Anyone else having any other issues?

(06-07-2015 10:34 AM)kosko Wrote:  Its almost like we need a sheet on emoji talk. Some brkads talk exclusively in them, a dude at my work claims he set up a booty call with no use of words, just emojis, aside from giving his address.

Any girl younger than 21 you have to use them a ton. IMO they might see you as boring if you don't.

(06-07-2015 10:34 AM)kosko Wrote:  Its almost like we need a sheet on emoji talk. Some brkads talk exclusively in them, a dude at my work claims he set up a booty call with no use of words, just emojis, aside from giving his address.

Any girl younger than 21 you have to use them a ton. IMO they might see you as boring if you don't.

I used to be on the-mainboard.com, there was an epic tinder thread on there. A couple guys posted conversations where they at least got the #. Claimed they got the lay but who knows if they were honest.

question about flakes...

I've been using the line "I think you're cute, let's meet for drinks next week". It seems to work well, as the girls agree to meet next week. But when next week comes around, they don't always respond. Is it worth pushing the date out that far?

Next question, is it even worth sending a restart text after the first flake? After one missed date, I'm trying to figure out how to restart without sounding needy. Thanks

Quote: question about flakes...

I've been using the line "I think you're cute, let's meet for drinks next week". It seems to work well, as the girls agree to meet next week. But when next week comes around, they don't always respond. Is it worth pushing the date out that far?

Next question, is it even worth sending a restart text after the first flake? After one missed date, I'm trying to figure out how to restart without sounding needy. Thanks

No that's a bad strategy in this kind of climate. You don't give her a week to find something else to do or a reason to bail. Chicks are lazier and flakier than ever in this social media generation. You wanna shoot for same night meets up or maybe next day. A week is a little much.

To restart, if this on Tinder. Just hit her up with What's up Tinderella? And then run from there. It works pretty well for me. Pretty much my go to restart. I don't know if I would even mention the flake. I'd just game as usual and then maybe try schedule a meet up with a shorter time window but there is no guarantee.

If I were you I would go and read everything BlurredSevens has ever written in regards to online dating or just dealing with girls in this age. The dude speaks gospel. Actionable and applicable.

Blackwell's advice is solid.

Are you asking for a meeting straight away?

I try to get a bit of chat going first, and I arrange meetings within 2-3 days to avoid flakes.

Just keep plugging away, don't be put off by flakes and rejections. Online game is easy once you get the hang of it.

(06-11-2015 11:14 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  Blackwell's advice is solid.

Are you asking for a meeting straight away?

I try to get a bit of chat going first, and I arrange meetings within 2-3 days to avoid flakes.

I'm getting more phone numbers by going for the meet, right out the gate on the 2nd or 3rd message. No chat or small talk involved. I'm surprised that even works, honestly. Perhaps I should change "Lets get drinks next week" to "Lets get drinks tomorrow" or "this week"

(06-11-2015 11:42 AM)GoSkins Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 11:14 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  Blackwell's advice is solid.

Are you asking for a meeting straight away?

I try to get a bit of chat going first, and I arrange meetings within 2-3 days to avoid flakes.

I'm getting more phone numbers by going for the meet, right out the gate on the 2nd or 3rd message. No chat or small talk involved. I'm surprised that even works, honestly. Perhaps I should change "Lets get drinks next week" to "Lets get drinks tomorrow" or "this week"

That's good work.

Keep the time frame smaller and you should get less flakes. These women are very easily distracted.

(06-11-2015 11:42 AM)GoSkins Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 11:14 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  Blackwell's advice is solid.

Are you asking for a meeting straight away?

I try to get a bit of chat going first, and I arrange meetings within 2-3 days to avoid flakes.

I'm getting more phone numbers by going for the meet, right out the gate on the 2nd or 3rd message. No chat or small talk involved. I'm surprised that even works, honestly. Perhaps I should change "Lets get drinks next week" to "Lets get drinks tomorrow" or "this week"

Suggesting "getting a drink soon" maximizes for numbers.

Picking a close by day to get the drink before getting the number minimizes flakes.
No chat is a crap shoot.

With no chat I need to double book to compensate for flakes.
I think it is less work overall to use a flake reduction strategy than to generate double the leads.

This market moves fast and your competitors are willing to pay top dollar for used goods, plus accelerating the schedule can make the girls feel like you have a special connection.