Post: #7151

(10-30-2018 04:51 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  Something changed though in the last two years, and the last year especially has been brutal. I used to get like 10 matches per swipe session. Now tinder is just totally defecating all over their app with a severely restrictive 25 swipes per session, annoying pushy Tinder gold and Tinder Plus,

Is it possible that that tinder limits number of right swipes not just for men but for women as well to a certain limit per day?

Is it possible that people get fewer matches since women swipe less compared to the days before Tinder gold or plus due to the women having fewer right swipes?

We all know women will never pay for this app, so if they have limited swipes, they will only selectively swipe right to chad high elo score who gets shown first and hence fewer matches to average joe beta at the bottom of the deck.

If women had unlimited right swipes, then it could be a solution to the problem, since they will swipe on more joe betas if chad high elo score ignores her (which he will) since chad has 1000 matches, naturally she will swipe more when she is ignored since she has more right swipes and at least joe beta can get an in to run his text game.

Currently, chad ignores her for 24 hours and after 24 hours she has free right swipes again to swipe a new chad while joe beta doesn't even get shown to her.

If you extrapolate this to all women , then we can see the problem

Post: #7152

(10-30-2018 04:51 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  Meanwhile people in my category, I don't know, maybe I'm like a 6.5 or 7 I have no idea, but the point is that I'm not legit ugly so I still get matches... But meanwhile people in my category get in this weird place where these chicks need to talk to you for like 2 weeks straight with daily entertainment before they want to meet you. I think I find that aspect of tinder the worst of all, the fact that when you are an OK male, it means you don't get to use tinder for what it's for, instead you get to participate in a fucking conversational tight-rope act where one single misstep means it's game over.

I'm having a similar experience. My conclusion is the girls are either a) keeping the conversation open because they're trying their luck with other guys they consider better value and see me as an inferior second option or b) have been pumped and dumped too many times and are now screening viciously.

One solution is perhaps to try and target 'new users' which I'm noticing is possible on many of the apps with the right method. I'm experimenting with this atm.

(I've also asked Corsega to help me get my profile in better shape which he has been kind enough to agree to.)

It's clear to me after joining RVF that these apps have had a seriously devastating and pervasive effect on gender relations, particularly in the west. If Tinder was ever to reveal it's user statistics, I suspect many people are in store for a cultural shock. STD rates, for example, are already on the rise. In fact, it feels so significant that I wonder if anyone has yet theorised a causal link between the growth of the manosphere and inceldom with the rise of Tinder?

But there's no point complaining about it. These apps work like a drug and the addiction isn't going away any time soon. Overall, if you're not getting the results you want (once you've maximised your profile) you just have to accept it. Either drop the standards of the women that you're willing to bang and/or focus on other game syles.

Post: #7153

(10-22-2018 04:59 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Going on vacation for two weeks but decided to take a break from Tinder for a while.

I am getting matches. I wouldn't say a TON.. but some. However, the girls that I am matching with are like 6s and I am now a firm believer that fucking around a 6 will cost you a 7 and fucking around with a 7 will cost you an 8.

In essence, I could be investing time and money in myself instead of wasting those resources (time and energy) having sex with wack chicks.

In addition I don't think my SMV is up to standard for Tinder as well. I need to work on my body (get a six pack and lean up... I am by no means fat tho) and get pro pics, shirtless pics amongst some other things if I am going to play the Tinder game. The hotter girls that matched me replied and then just ended up ghosting me after a while. The lower girls aren't really too tough to get going.

Alot of guys here are salty about their Tinder results but I am going to take it as an indication that I need to better my lifestyle and looks and then try again.

Again I was getting bangs from Tinder and it delivered but just not the quality I want so Ive decided to take a step back.

Tinder is getting easier for the few and harder for the many. I have nice style and a pretty damn good physique. Iniitally, I got a lot of matches and lays off tinder, but as time went on it slowed down. Looking back my pics weren't high enough quality. Due to my shitty pics my IRL value was not conveyed on my tinder. I decided to get pro pics. I did a lotta research and ended up with a nice eastern european immigrant photographer. She charged $450 and I could have gone with a cheaper photographer, but the quality of pics were truly top notch. You get what you pay for. Fuck all this talk about looking too try hard. The same women that say they don't swipe right on shirtless pics i've match with a lot of them and smashed if they were attractive enough and i had the time.

Word of caution about your professional pics. Don't pay for a shoot until you are in your best shape or close to it. It's a waste of money otherwise. Pro pics with a great body, decent to great face and style is some awesome synergistic shit. Pro pics of avg, are just really really nice avg pics

Post: #7154

(10-30-2018 04:51 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 11:41 PM)corsega Wrote:  Can you define "good shirtless pics"? I definitely agree they work worse in Europe due to cultural values, but there's no reason they shouldn't not work AT ALL.

If you want you can PM me and I'll give you advice. I have been using various shirtless photos as my main for most of two years.

Cool man, will do.

How are your results on tinder over the last two years and in what area/region did you swipe?

***

For what it's worth I need to drop a bit of a rant here. We've all noticed tinder getting harder but man it's been a major blow to me. I have been running tinder since 2014, literally half my lays have come from tinder (20+ something). I thought I was legit good at it.

Something changed though in the last two years, and the last year especially has been brutal. I used to get like 10 matches per swipe session. Now tinder is just totally defecating all over their app with a severely restrictive 25 swipes per session, annoying pushy Tinder gold and Tinder Plus, while the added benefit of these services is worse than what Tinder was like in the 2014-2016 era.

I just don't understand what happened anymore? It's not like I've become uglier, I actually gained mass and improved my fashion sense and improved my pictures as far as I can see. But none of that shit seems to matter anymore. My witty profile texts just don't matter anymore and it's impossible to run good numbers game when your numbers are so cripplingly low (like 3 matches a day).

I once quantified my matches to date/bang ratio in 2017, and it was 1 out of 50 which already is disheartening. Nowadays it's going to take a month to get to 50 matches, the quality is just abysmally lower and the response rate is even lower.

But it's not like that for everyone. The two Chad friends I know have a completely flipped script. When I run a fake profile with Chad pics I get 100+ matches in the first swiping round. The girls message Chad first and it only takes like 15 minutes of chatting to set up a date.

Meanwhile people in my category, I don't know, maybe I'm like a 6.5 or 7 I have no idea, but the point is that I'm not legit ugly so I still get matches... But meanwhile people in my category get in this weird place where these chicks need to talk to you for like 2 weeks straight with daily entertainment before they want to meet you. I think I find that aspect of tinder the worst of all, the fact that when you are an OK male, it means you don't get to use tinder for what it's for, instead you get to participate in a fucking conversational tight-rope act where one single misstep means it's game over.

The ONLY significant factor for success on tinder nowadays is looks. I can't distinguish myself by being in the top 20% of educated people, or having a top 40% salary, or being in the top 30% of at least being funny and witty in conversation or being in the top 30% of male tinder profiles in terms of at least having HD quality pictures. None of that shit matters for shit anymore.

I quit tinder 6 months ago for this reason, now I'm starting it up again absolutely nothing has changed.

This is what tinder is nowadays: it's a place where ALL women take turns having sex with the top 2%? top 0.2%? of men in a city in terms of the only variable that no man can change: looks. End of story. And if you are an OK guy, you get saddled up with the girls who didn't match the real Chads.

I seriously wonder what is going on behind the scenes. Are all of these 7+ girls just able to take turns banging Chads? Are all these Chads racking up 200+ lay counts. Is there some kind of secret society where they're all having orgies and laughing at the lower 98.8% of genetic waste? It seems like nobody is having sex anymore, or that everyone is having sex with just the top 200 guys per city.

I have ~55 lays from Tinder in 2.5 years. Most of these are in the hardest city in the US for Game (San Francisco).

I think you need to adjust your expectations. 3 matches a day is not cripplingly low. I get one match per day on my current non-Plus account.

Consider this: the average male on Tinder gets one match per thousand swipes. This was from a study done a couple years ago. You (and even I) are far above average.

Not sure what you mean with 25 swipes per session. As far as I can tell, swipes are still limited to 120 every 12 hours.

P.S. dtpilgrim PMed me his pics and they look quite good. If you want, you can PM me some sample conversations or post them here, I'm happy to give advice.

(10-30-2018 09:37 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  Tinder is getting easier for the few and harder for the many. I have nice style and a pretty damn good physique. Iniitally, I got a lot of matches and lays off tinder, but as time went on it slowed down. Looking back my pics weren't high enough quality. Due to my shitty pics my IRL value was not conveyed on my tinder. I decided to get pro pics. I did a lotta research and ended up with a nice eastern european immigrant photographer. She charged $450 and I could have gone with a cheaper photographer, but the quality of pics were truly top notch. You get what you pay for. Fuck all this talk about looking too try hard. The same women that say they don't swipe right on shirtless pics i've match with a lot of them and smashed if they were attractive enough and i had the time.

Word of caution about your professional pics. Don't pay for a shoot until you are in your best shape or close to it. It's a waste of money otherwise. Pro pics with a great body, decent to great face and style is some awesome synergistic shit. Pro pics of avg, are just really really nice avg pics

Professional-looking photos are the reason Tinder has gotten so tough over the past year. Before, it was just the Game-aware guys that had pro photos, and they were cleaning up. Now, the word is out. Every bro has an iPhone X and a couple of friends that can take a photo of him next to the Golden Gate Bridge staring longingly into the distance. You are no longer competing with webcam selfies from 2008.

This is business, ya'll. They step their game up, you step yours up.

Luckily with threads like these we can stay one step ahead.

Post: #7155

Remember women only swipe but so many times a day. Don't get offended if you don't get a match for some time unless of course you used boost and still didn't get matches. In this case you need to go back to the drawing board.

Post: #7156

Corsega or anyone else using tind3r, any quick tips on how to set up, what version chrome/or tind3r extension you are using, or where to download/ how to install/setup the tind3r extension?

When I go to tind3r.com in any browser, it gives error "There is some error. Please try logout and login again." and the page keeps trying to load with only the top advertising banner displaying. I've tried downloading extensions or other files from a couple places with no change.

From comments it seems others have not been able to get tind3r to work either.

For others, here is the process I use to set/change location on chrome (desktop version) to use tinder.com without the paid version:

-first find coordinates on google.com/maps ; right click any spot on map, "what's here" then record, copy or remember the first 4 or 5 digits of the latitude & longitude
-in chrome, click the three dots towards the upper right hand of screen > more tools > developer tools > sensors > geolocation > custom location > then type in the desired latitude & longitude

Post: #7157

Hmm, maybe tind3r.com doesn't work anymore for new users. I'm using 0.2.2 and latest version of Chrome and it works for me, but I've had it installed for a while.

Post: #7158

trying to get tind3r working and so far no luck. The extension has been removed from the chrome store. I could download the 0.2.2 tind3r client directory in zip format from the following site https://crx.dam.io/ext/olicollicgbjgnial...dccon.html actual link to file https://crx.dam.io/files/olicollicgbjgni.../0.2.2.zip
**(make sure you have your anti-virus etc on?)

then I can unzip the folder, and install the extension in developer mode , and the extension shows up in chrome. there is a little heart in the upper right hand corner of chrome, that goes to tind3r.com. but then when I go to tind3r.com


(get the extension does nothing)

I've also tried 0.2.1 folder from the same archive, no luck, same result.

the tind3r.com frontend (server) is uploaded on github here: https://github.com/rlesniak/tind3r.com but this is different from the chrome extension client and I don't think it is the issue.

maybe there is somewhere else online the (correct?) 0.2.2.zip chrome extension is uploaded?

anyone else have this working!?

Also came across & downloaded 6tin windos app here https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/6tin/9...verviewtab and it seems to be working ok, easy to set location, no other advanced features though

thanks again

Post: #7159

I think Quaker is spot on here. It’s the reason I’ve stepped back. I took some amateur pics at obvious places NYC (and using them in Europe as a DHV) and to at extent. My bangs and matches did increase fairly easily and especially in the Netherlands. However, I realized what kind of beast Tinder is and the man you need to become/show you that you are to dominate that app. The girls are all taking turns fucking the top guys on the app for sure. For me I think pro pics are gonna be mandatory and I HAVE to get my body right if I’m gonna do well in my target demographic.

I got fashion nailed to a T since I’m in the business and I can demonstrate a pretty interesting lifestyle since I travel between countries with regularity but I don’t have my body/face dialed in correctly and on top of pro pictures, this is what is holding me back.

For all the guys complaining, I believe there is a way to kill this Tinder thing. No one said it is fair but if you maximize yourself and value through pro pics I think it can be done.

I think I’m 50% closure on girls I meet from Tinder. (my biggest problem is initial attraction) I can only imagine what will happen if I can get off my ass and do this thing right.

Post: #7160

(10-30-2018 10:49 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  I think Quaker is spot on here. It’s the reason I’ve stepped back. I took some amateur pics at obvious places NYC (and using them in Europe as a DHV) and to at extent. My bangs and matches did increase fairly easily and especially in the Netherlands. However, I realized what kind of beast Tinder is and the man you need to become/show you that you are to dominate that app. The girls are all taking turns fucking the top guys on the app for sure. For me I think pro pics are gonna be mandatory and I HAVE to get my body right if I’m gonna do well in my target demographic.

I got fashion nailed to a T since I’m in the business and I can demonstrate a pretty interesting lifestyle since I travel between countries with regularity but I don’t have my body/face dialed in correctly and on top of pro pictures, this is what is holding me back.

For all the guys complaining, I believe there is a way to kill this Tinder thing. No one said it is fair but if you maximize yourself and value through pro pics I think it can be done.

I think I’m 50% closure on girls I meet from Tinder. (my biggest problem is initial attraction) I can only imagine what will happen if I can get off my ass and do this thing right.

Bro the results will be mind blowing. Pretty much any girl I actually meet from tinder is mine. Sorta like IRL if I get her number and get her out the house I can convert the first time we go out or the second. Tinder will make you lazy, but don't sweat it. You will have busted your ass for your body with diet, cardio and weights and taken care of whatever or what little facial issues you have and you'll got everything a truly high value man deserves.

Post: #7161

(10-30-2018 05:52 AM)yang2287 Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 04:51 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  Something changed though in the last two years, and the last year especially has been brutal. I used to get like 10 matches per swipe session. Now tinder is just totally defecating all over their app with a severely restrictive 25 swipes per session, annoying pushy Tinder gold and Tinder Plus,

Is it possible that that tinder limits number of right swipes not just for men but for women as well to a certain limit per day?

Is it possible that people get fewer matches since women swipe less compared to the days before Tinder gold or plus due to the women having fewer right swipes?

We all know women will never pay for this app, so if they have limited swipes, they will only selectively swipe right to chad high elo score who gets shown first and hence fewer matches to average joe beta at the bottom of the deck.

If women had unlimited right swipes, then it could be a solution to the problem, since they will swipe on more joe betas if chad high elo score ignores her (which he will) since chad has 1000 matches, naturally she will swipe more when she is ignored since she has more right swipes and at least joe beta can get an in to run his text game.

Currently, chad ignores her for 24 hours and after 24 hours she has free right swipes again to swipe a new chad while joe beta doesn't even get shown to her.

If you extrapolate this to all women , then we can see the problem

There is a simple easy way to hack ELO score which I've used many times. I might even want to t take credit for inventing the method as I shared it in the PWF facebook group in 2017, but then again it's not so incredibly original that someone else can't have thought of it as well. Anyways I called it the bait & switch:

1. Create a profile on tinder with your name
2. Use pictures of a male model; I used David Laid and Miroslav Cech
3. Just leave your profile out on tinder in your area for a week
4. During this week, you will be swiped right like 200-300 times
5. As a consequence your ELO score is sky-high
6. Now, before you start swiping yourself, you switch to your own pictures
7. Voila, you now have a high ELO score AND 200-300 matches stacked up

... But if only it really was this simple. In practice literally 30-50% of my matches just straight up unmatch me either immediately or after the first message. Most of the rest still just doesn't respond.

It's not about having a high ELO score and not being seen. It's about not being the top 0.0002%. All the qualms I mentioned before in my rant post are still there; no matter what I do I'm still a 6.5-7 based on my pics (which aren't even that bad as others here have confirmed), and as a consequence I get put in this weird conversation purgatory that Sender talked about as well.

***

But that said I do want to thank you guys for opening my mind about getting pro pics. Fact of the matter all my pics are ultimately just HD selfies, and I'm willing to shill out some bucks to take a shot at having a peak profile.

By the way I've also had some female profiles before just to see what the competition looks like. It is admittedly 90% bad profiles (from what I think the female perspective would be). And as a chick you literally rack up 100+ matches per day. Lol I once had a tinder date with an Asian 3 and she had 3000 matches hahaha it's so over. Anyway my point is sure you don't actually have that much competition, but the problem is either you are the shit or you are nothing, there is no "fair" gradual slope anymore that there used to be a few years ago.

To formulate things more positively I guess the question is what do these girls want to see in a profile and why?

Post: #7162

I've probably mentioned this before in this thread. I'm a professional photographer but admittedly my pictures I was using on this app were only mediocre.

I've upped my game and posted some pro photos (self-portraits and one photo of me with another girl who is a hard 8, as a DHV). My matches sky-rocketed, and I was getting match after match after match with almost every right-swipe. But this dries up, fast.

The only way you're put at the top of the stack again is changing your location to another country, and the same thing happens (matching on almost every right-swipe including some hard 7s and 8s before it all dries up).

I'd be about an 8 facially. I'm lean but with tone. Definitely not jacked. I don't have any shirtless pics nor do I have tattoos. I have all my hair and am around 6ft (but put 6'1 on my bio). The only hit to my SMV is the fact I'm 40, but since I could pass for anywhere in my 30s I have 35 down as my age.

After a week of using these new pics I'm currently sitting at 70 matches, having my location set alternately to Warsaw and my hometown.

But I'm still dealing with the fact that 70% either don't respond, or they engage initially but then either back away or refuse to give their number. I actually now hate initiating any kind of conversation because I feel like just another thirsty schlub who's validating this chick and thanked with radio silence.

30% are engaging. But I've been catfished so regularly over the past 12 months that I'm always skeptical of the ones who engage. The good news: I'm still banging girls whose SMV is equal to or higher than mine, so it's still possible, just a harder slog than it used to be. Stay positive, and supplement your online game with real-world interactions.

Post: #7163

Using a new sim and restoring purchases on iPhones can result in shadow bans or permanent bans.

Basically you can only get away with this once every 6 months. Tinder doesnt block Apple IDs because they don’t actually know who you are. Apples privacy policy is to generate a unique identifier for each subscription. That identifier is what they are blocking. If you cancel a subscription and don’t make any additional purchases for 6 months then Apple resets that identifier.

The foolproof method is have 6 Apple IDs and rotate through them if you get a ban (assuming you get banned once a month)!

Post: #7164

(10-31-2018 08:10 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 05:52 AM)yang2287 Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 04:51 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  Something changed though in the last two years, and the last year especially has been brutal. I used to get like 10 matches per swipe session. Now tinder is just totally defecating all over their app with a severely restrictive 25 swipes per session, annoying pushy Tinder gold and Tinder Plus,

Is it possible that that tinder limits number of right swipes not just for men but for women as well to a certain limit per day?

Is it possible that people get fewer matches since women swipe less compared to the days before Tinder gold or plus due to the women having fewer right swipes?

We all know women will never pay for this app, so if they have limited swipes, they will only selectively swipe right to chad high elo score who gets shown first and hence fewer matches to average joe beta at the bottom of the deck.

If women had unlimited right swipes, then it could be a solution to the problem, since they will swipe on more joe betas if chad high elo score ignores her (which he will) since chad has 1000 matches, naturally she will swipe more when she is ignored since she has more right swipes and at least joe beta can get an in to run his text game.

Currently, chad ignores her for 24 hours and after 24 hours she has free right swipes again to swipe a new chad while joe beta doesn't even get shown to her.

If you extrapolate this to all women , then we can see the problem

There is a simple easy way to hack ELO score which I've used many times. I might even want to t take credit for inventing the method as I shared it in the PWF facebook group in 2017, but then again it's not so incredibly original that someone else can't have thought of it as well. Anyways I called it the bait & switch:

1. Create a profile on tinder with your name
2. Use pictures of a male model; I used David Laid and Miroslav Cech
3. Just leave your profile out on tinder in your area for a week
4. During this week, you will be swiped right like 200-300 times
5. As a consequence your ELO score is sky-high
6. Now, before you start swiping yourself, you switch to your own pictures
7. Voila, you now have a high ELO score AND 200-300 matches stacked up

... But if only it really was this simple. In practice literally 30-50% of my matches just straight up unmatch me either immediately or after the first message. Most of the rest still just doesn't respond.

It's not about having a high ELO score and not being seen. It's about not being the top 0.0002%. All the qualms I mentioned before in my rant post are still there; no matter what I do I'm still a 6.5-7 based on my pics (which aren't even that bad as others here have confirmed), and as a consequence I get put in this weird conversation purgatory that Sender talked about as well.

I've been doing the male model thing since late 2016. I believe I ended up finding out that Tinder caches the original photos you use, and then when the girls click on your profile it changes to your photos. So that's why all the girls are unmatching and others don't respond - it's very obvious to them that you are catfishing.

It's a useless "hack", Tinder has already defused it.

Post: #7165

Even as a male 8 I’m delusional trying to get hot girls on tinder. I changed my swipe strategy recently to try and target the hot girls on Tinder.

Go to Top Picks. Message girls on IG direct. Then left swipe. Most never bother answering back on IG or Tinder. So at best a waste of time. At worst I waste super likes and lower my ELO score.

Other annoying thing I noticed is half the top picks are obvious escorts and catfishes. Looking good but too sexually suggestive posing with their line or wechats as the only description.

So basically 99% of got girls ignore you on Tinder. Half of them being escorts. Gee thanks tinder. So glad I paid extra to see more hot prostitutes and attention whores.

Tinder is fine if you’re better looking and willing to date down a point or two. But even that can take a lot of time swiping.

Post: #7166

Well I don't know if you are a male 8, but you have among the most hilarious nicknames on this forum I have ever seen.

Some questions for guys frequenting this thread:
1. Black and white photos, yes or no?
2. How many photos do you put and what kind of?
3. What is your main profile photo and is it true that first and last one are most important ones?
4. What is the description on your profile?

Post: #7167

(11-01-2018 01:43 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Well I don't know if you are a male 8, but you have among the most hilarious nicknames on this forum I have ever seen.

Some questions for guys frequenting this thread:
1. Black and white photos, yes or no?
2. How many photos do you put and what kind of?
3. What is your main profile photo and is it true that first and last one are most important ones?
4. What is the description on your profile?

I have a black and white photo as my main but only because I have to. The colors on it turned out weird when I took it. It's a photo of my physique with perfect indoor lighting (made my own lighting setup, two rim lights coming off the floor and an overhead light. Cut down to around 10% bodyfat to take it and my physique looks amazing.

Profile description is basically all DHV and some cockiness.

Post: #7168

Can you give me example of description similar to yours?

Post: #7169

(11-01-2018 12:23 AM)Humpty Pump n Dumpty Wrote:  Even as a male 8 I’m delusional trying to get hot girls on tinder. I changed my swipe strategy recently to try and target the hot girls on Tinder.

Go to Top Picks. Message girls on IG direct. Then left swipe. Most never bother answering back on IG or Tinder. So at best a waste of time. At worst I waste super likes and lower my ELO score.

I wouldn't recommend giving "super likes" on hot girls who know that they're hot. You are not gonna stand out with a "super like" to a hot girl anyway, she'll get lots of them anyway from thirsty guys and it won't set you apart anyone else. You're just feeding their egos and they'll just think they're above you.

But it can work on that girl who is seen as a 6 by the general society but just happen to be your type or some chick who looks more innocent and lives in the countryside and is more likely to not have her ego crashing through the roof.

Post: #7170

(11-01-2018 12:23 AM)Humpty Pump n Dumpty Wrote:  Even as a male 8 I’m delusional trying to get hot girls on tinder. I changed my swipe strategy recently to try and target the hot girls on Tinder.

Go to Top Picks. Message girls on IG direct. Then left swipe. Most never bother answering back on IG or Tinder. So at best a waste of time. At worst I waste super likes and lower my ELO score.

Other annoying thing I noticed is half the top picks are obvious escorts and catfishes. Looking good but too sexually suggestive posing with their line or wechats as the only description.

So basically 99% of got girls ignore you on Tinder. Half of them being escorts. Gee thanks tinder. So glad I paid extra to see more hot prostitutes and attention whores.

Tinder is fine if you’re better looking and willing to date down a point or two. But even that can take a lot of time swiping.

Not sure what city you are in but this hasn't been my experience. You can definitely tell the fake profiles when the girl is too attractive and doesn't have a bio but for the most part i only encounter pros once every several dozen swipes

Post: #7171

(11-01-2018 01:43 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Well I don't know if you are a male 8, but you have among the most hilarious nicknames on this forum I have ever seen.

Some questions for guys frequenting this thread:
1. Black and white photos, yes or no?
2. How many photos do you put and what kind of?
3. What is your main profile photo and is it true that first and last one are most important ones?
4. What is the description on your profile?

1. Who cares as long as they look good
2. Depends on how many good ones you have. In a perfect world you'd have 8 really good pics and swap the first 4 out for the last 4 every month or so.
3. Shirtless pic. The first pic is definitely the most important
4. 2 or 3 sentences where demonstrate cliche wit. nothing special

Post: #7172

(11-01-2018 03:02 AM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  

(11-01-2018 12:23 AM)Humpty Pump n Dumpty Wrote:  Even as a male 8 I’m delusional trying to get hot girls on tinder. I changed my swipe strategy recently to try and target the hot girls on Tinder.

Go to Top Picks. Message girls on IG direct. Then left swipe. Most never bother answering back on IG or Tinder. So at best a waste of time. At worst I waste super likes and lower my ELO score.

I wouldn't recommend giving "super likes" on hot girls who know that they're hot. You are not gonna stand out with a "super like" to a hot girl anyway, she'll get lots of them anyway from thirsty guys and it won't set you apart anyone else. You're just feeding their egos and they'll just think they're above you.

But it can work on that girl who is seen as a 6 by the general society but just happen to be your type or some chick who looks more innocent and lives in the countryside and is more likely to not have her ego crashing through the roof.

I have tinder plus, so i usually swipe right on a hot chick first to see if she swiped me if not i'll pull out the superlike. The reality is if you have good pics you just need a bump getting to the front of the line and that's where superlikes and boost help

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(11-01-2018 02:15 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Can you give me example of description similar to yours?

6"9". Polka jazz DJ by night, insurance actuary by day.

I mix the best appletinis in town.

Bet you don't have more followers than me: [your IG username]

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I know I sound like a broken record here, but I'm having less success on Tinder than ever, and I have to think it's due to Instagram. Even slightly above average girls are racking up thousands of followers on Instagram, and they don't know how to handle all the male attention. I know this to be true because I've had girls follow me and still ignore my DM's, not even reading them. If they don't open my messages, they must have hundreds more jamming up their phones.

Maybe it's my game, maybe not. Either way I'm emphasizing IRL game more than ever now.

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(10-30-2018 06:07 AM)Sender Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 04:51 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  Meanwhile people in my category, I don't know, maybe I'm like a 6.5 or 7 I have no idea, but the point is that I'm not legit ugly so I still get matches... But meanwhile people in my category get in this weird place where these chicks need to talk to you for like 2 weeks straight with daily entertainment before they want to meet you. I think I find that aspect of tinder the worst of all, the fact that when you are an OK male, it means you don't get to use tinder for what it's for, instead you get to participate in a fucking conversational tight-rope act where one single misstep means it's game over.

I'm having a similar experience. My conclusion is the girls are either a) keeping the conversation open because they're trying their luck with other guys they consider better value and see me as an inferior second option or b) have been pumped and dumped too many times and are now screening viciously.

One solution is perhaps to try and target 'new users' which I'm noticing is possible on many of the apps with the right method. I'm experimenting with this atm.

(I've also asked Corsega to help me get my profile in better shape which he has been kind enough to agree to.)

It's clear to me after joining RVF that these apps have had a seriously devastating and pervasive effect on gender relations, particularly in the west. If Tinder was ever to reveal it's user statistics, I suspect many people are in store for a cultural shock. STD rates, for example, are already on the rise. In fact, it feels so significant that I wonder if anyone has yet theorised a causal link between the growth of the manosphere and inceldom with the rise of Tinder?

But there's no point complaining about it. These apps work like a drug and the addiction isn't going away any time soon. Overall, if you're not getting the results you want (once you've maximised your profile) you just have to accept it. Either drop the standards of the women that you're willing to bang and/or focus on other game syles.

My experience, even with good pics has been dire and I'd rate myself 7-8 (probably 9 to a lot of girls) in the pics. I'm 45 but pics pass off as 35 and I pass off as late 30s.

lets say 10000 random swipes
500 matches
50 I will send a feeler text (450 are fugly - either fat or ugly - I live in the UK what do you expect!)
10 will converse with me
5 will date
3 will actually go on a date, 2 will flake

The 3 dates were either too fat, face not pretty enough or something. ROI very poor.

I'm focussing on night game. Besides, I got banned from Tinder.