Post: #26

(12-18-2012 11:01 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Wait,

Why do you care again?

I think these exercises like a "5" drinks 7 beers per night, but a "8.2" drinks 11 beers per night are pretty worthless.

When you live life, you have seen enough not to draw these broad brush strokes.

But then again you are 24 years old.

When you are 30 years old, there is no way you would be asking a question like this.

I'm a young 24 as far as experiences go. I'm only starting to get my game together. Even if I make a fool of myself, I'll prob keep visiting this forum because I have not picked up any real world mentors yet as far as this lifestyle goes.

Shit is real on here. I appreciate it.

Post: #27

In the end if you're looking for a LTR you should be self-selecting away from party sluts anyway.
It varies wildly...
I met a 23yr old Korean girl who had only 3 previous partners...
Yet i also know a 20yr old Canadian girl with 20 notches who's only been sexually active for 4 years...That's 5 guys per year...
Then off pof i met a 27yr old virgin. Never even kissed a guy let alone held or saw a cock till me...virgins sound nice on paper but in practicality they're only good if you plan on marrying them. Not good for LTR's or FWB.

This "average" number is such bs.
Go with your gut. If you suspect she's lying then drop her and move on. Arguing and trying to pin down her actual number helps no one.
Don't ask question you aren't prepared to know the answer to.

I always ask when did you lose your v-card. You can gauge if the number she is telling you is accurate or not by when/who she started taking cock from.

Post: #28

(12-18-2012 08:34 PM)godofwar Wrote:  

(12-18-2012 08:31 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  V-cards are overrated as fuck bro.

the grass is greener then. i wouldn't know.

so you would say you dont care between identical twins, both clean, one had 5 cocks, the other 80?

call it caring too much, whatever, but i'd rather have the twin with five.

I've found that the guys who want v-cards are usually the guys who haven't had many. They are way over rated.

I would still say my ideal girl for a relationship has only been with 1 to 5 guys in her life.

Another thing I have noticed is that guys generally aren't way attracted to girls who have had more sexual partners than them. For example, a virgin guy only wants a virgin girl. A guy with 5 partners in his life wants a virgin or a really good girl. A guy with 100 partners in his life may still prefer a good girl in a relationship, but he will be just as attracted to a girl who has been with 50 guys.

I think it is hardwired in all men to want a girl with less sexual experience than him. It helps us to feel masculine in the bedroom.

Post: #29

Madonna/whore complex seems to be really widespread on this forum.

Post: #30

(12-19-2012 08:59 AM)w00t Wrote:  Madonna/whore complex seems to be really widespread on this forum.

That is another thing that I never knew what it was until this forum. I had to look it up.

But yeah, the "Madonna/whore complex" reeks of inexperience.

Once you swoop a couple hundred plus girls nothing really matters anymore.

You have bigger fish to fry.

Post: #31

I never ask for a girls number but I had a few blurt out their numbers without me provoking them whatsoever. One 23 year old college grad who just blurted out that she had 5 guys total. Another 25 year old just couldn't wait to tell me during pillow talk that she had 19.

Its worth noting that both these chicks were 6s but still the variation is too great to come up with an average. I am under the impression that girls who are more willing to tell their number unprovoked are under the impression that their number is far lower than what they know of their peers. They could still deflate their number for obvious reason but it gives you an idea on how high the ceiling is for an attractive chick.

Post: #32

A 24 year old that I had a fling with a few years ago told me that she had sex with over 200 men (many unprotected). She got tested and had no permanent stds. She did tell me that get had a strain of HPV and eventually cleared it. Then she got HPV again and along with an abnormal Pap smear.

I didn't have any issues with her sexual past and I think the reason she actually told me was because she could sense that I am a non-judgmental person. Her sexual past didn't bother me. I was kind of envious because I would like to have 100s of women but I just was unable to.

This is the day and age that we live in. We live in a world where the institution of marriage is not what it used to be and casual sex is normal. Instead of bitching about it, men should enjoy life and enjoy making love with many women.

Who the fuck cares who many cocks an average 25 year old woman has had. I don't.

Post: #33

A bit of overestimating here; not here to deny that there are some sluts that are nearing or have surpassed triple digits, but there are far more girls with less than 10 then there are with more than 50.

If we really get to the nitty-gritty, and assume that in 2010 there were about 48 million women aged 24 or under in the USA, and further take away the infants there were only about 20.5 million between the ages of 15 and 24...I know many of these girls will rack up a few notches on vacations and in college, but for real? The guys here saying 20 is 'average'? I'm being led to believe that twenty and a half million women (including a negligible amount that were victims of child abuse) managed to cycle through 400+ million men (12% of the total male population on the planet)? Something is not adding up here.

My guess for an average number, across all boards? I'll throw out a number; 6. I extrapolate and reach my conclusions accordingly (based on how easy it was for me to get it and her personality), but at the end of the day, as long as I wrap it up, a girl's past doesn't matter to me; if I'm going to commit to a girl, yeah, I'll hope and pray she's being honest when she tells me 'Just three' (and likewise when I say 'about seven' she doesn't hear 'Closer to one hundred than to fifty') she really means three and not fifteen, but I just use most of them anyways.

Post: #34

Caring about the number of cocks a chick has rode her entire life goes hand in hand with still seeing a LTR/marriage as a viable option in the west. I suppose the general advice here would be to not care about LTRs at all or at least don't even think about it until you get your own notch count and experience high enough.

Post: #35

It is pointless to fret about how many cocks the girls has had inside and feel repulsed by her because of that, both from a player and from a humane point of view. Of course, the number of cocks is still (in general, god bless rare exceptions) a strong indicator of certain character traits and future behavior. Just as you shouldn't worry about it or let it affect your feelings, it would be foolish to say that it does not matter. It does.

An even stronger indicator of character traits, however, is not her number of cocks, but the intensity of game and dominance that the girl requires. This is what the JRS (Jerk Reward Score) generally estimates even better than the number of partners. It also explains why a girl who gets off on asshole game is forever-more good for nothing but pump 'n' dump, no matter whether she has had 3, 30 or 300 cocks inside her.

Post: #36

(12-19-2012 02:32 PM)Yams Wrote:  Caring about the number of cocks a chick has rode her entire life goes hand in hand with still seeing a LTR/marriage as a viable option in the west. I suppose the general advice here would be to not care about LTRs at all or at least don't even think about it until you get your own notch count and experience high enough.

You shouldn't be seeking out LTRs. It reeks of neediness and drys the cooch up instantly. Just smash it like there's no tomorrow. If she brings up the LTR go along with it and call her your girlfriend. Do whatever to keep her putting out and go about your merry player ways on the side. That is the way of the Samurai

Post: #37

Any number that a guy throws out based on 'his experience' is questionable. 90% of your experience is with girls... who fuck you. Which isn't a representative sample.

Further, there ares so many different groups of girls that an average is meaningless. It's like asking the average annual income in the world - it's so varied, from several hundred in the Congo to a hundred grand in Monte Carlo. It may be handy to track changes over time, but little else.

Better to narrow your question down - Single or married girls? How often does she go to church? What religion is she? Where did she grow up? What part of the city does she live in? (Where I live, girls living in a certain area are almost guaranteed to be slutty.) Is she black, white, Hispanic or Asian? Did she go to college (college educated girls have less experience)? Does she smoke? Does she go out a lot? What does she do for work?

For a single woman living in a big city, I'd guess the average at 25 is 10-15, but it's hard to say. I'll see if I can find anything.

Post: #38

As long as I wrap it up, I don't really care.

Post: #39

There is no perfect answer to this question. Girl I was with last night volunteered the info because I NEVER ASK, Don't care and really don't want to know.

She's a smoking 9-9.5, 24yo and doesn't give off a slut vibe blah blah BUT she said her number is 15 cocks.

Do I believe her? Eh she was drunk and probably telling a version of the truth, but reality is I don't care. Not marrying the girl so doesn't matter.

Reality is she's now at 16 cocks including mine : )

Post: #40

Kinsey Institute

•Males 30-44 report an average of 6-8 female sexual partners in their lifetime (Mosher, Chandra, & Jones, 2005).
•Females 30-44 report an average of 4 male sexual partners in their lifetime (Mosher, Chandra, & Jones, 2005).
•3% of men have had zero sexual partners since the age of 18, 20% have had 1 partner, 21% have had 2-4 partners, 23% have had 5-10 partners, 16% have had 11-20 partners, and 17% have had 21 or more partners (Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels, 1994).
•3% of women have had zero sexual partners since the age of 18, 31% have had 1 partner, 36% have had 2-4 partners, 20% have had 5-10 partners, 6% have had 11-20 partners, and 3% have had 21 or more partners (Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels, 1994).
•20% of American men and 31% of American women have had one sex partner in their lifetime (Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels, 1994).
•56% of American men and 30% of American women have had 5 or more sex partners in their lifetime (Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels, 1994).

Post: #41

To OP.

Why are you thinking so much about cocks?

Post: #42

(12-19-2012 05:57 PM)basilransom Wrote:  Any number that a guy throws out based on 'his experience' is questionable. 90% of your experience is with girls... who fuck you. Which isn't a representative sample.

Further, there ares so many different groups of girls that an average is meaningless. It's like asking the average annual income in the world - it's so varied, from several hundred in the Congo to a hundred grand in Monte Carlo. It may be handy to track changes over time, but little else.

Better to narrow your question down - Single or married girls? How often does she go to church? What religion is she? Where did she grow up? What part of the city does she live in? (Where I live, girls living in a certain area are almost guaranteed to be slutty.) Is she black, white, Hispanic or Asian? Did she go to college (college educated girls have less experience)? Does she smoke? Does she go out a lot? What does she do for work?

For a single woman living in a big city, I'd guess the average at 25 is 10-15, but it's hard to say. I'll see if I can find anything.

Basil is right, far too many factors to try and determine an "average," especially in America which is a melting pot. You find a Persian Jewish girl who's home every Friday night cooking and cleaning with her grandmother, and she's in the 0-3 category at 25. You find a Southern Catholic girl who moved to LA to pursue art from Georgia 7 years ago when she turned 18 and she's in the 25-40 category by age 25.

Then you have your own skewed views through the lens that is your exeperiences. One of my favorite bangs this year is when I stuck it out with some bar slut through hours of driving around, entertaining friends and walking her hermaphroditic dog, drinking wine with her neighbors until 4am to then only get the bang after that. Does that mean she bangs whoever is around at the end of the night? Or was it me who persisted like a motherfucker until there was no distraction standing to get the bang? I'll never know. Not sure how many people are out there like me that would put in X hours to get the bang. I'm sure there are certain guys who could pull off the bang in 5 less hours than I did. Or maybe she's an open vagina with all access pass every time she is out. Am I the unique snowflake or was she? More likely neither of us were.

Maybe generalizations can be made in places with more uniform attitudes amongst girls (i.e. Brazil or Argentina), but at least in America there's no point. Couple that with you are basing any "statistic" on a person's own unverifiable words as opposed to a scientific measurement, and it just becomes an exercise in futility in my book.

Post: #43

To answer the original question ...

Why do you care?

Post: #44

if(cocks >= 1)
{
cocks++;
slut = TRUE;
}

Post: #45

I've had some INCREDIBLE insight into the female mind via the "friend zone". Fellas IMHO every player needs female "friends".These are attractive women that you really don't have any chemistry with but are purely friends without any benefits other than friendship.These woman can crack your brain open and pour more knowledge inside than any amount of reading game books.Just by WATCHING how they interact and choose who they fuck and suck you can learn the subtle cues.Never take female advice seriously but I'm telling you just watch and internalize their actions.When you get close enough they pull back the layers so you can get to know the "hamster" inside.You may not fuck these broads but all their friends are fair game and you've already got the cosign.Female rationale goes against conventional wisdom so the chick you assume is a slut may be a prude and vice versa.

Post: #46

(12-20-2012 08:15 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  I've had some INCREDIBLE insight into the female mind via the "friend zone". Fellas IMHO every player needs female "friends".These are attractive women that you really don't have any chemistry with but are purely friends without any benefits other than friendship.These woman can crack your brain open and pour more knowledge inside than any amount of reading game books.Just by WATCHING how they interact and choose who they fuck and suck you can learn the subtle cues.Never take female advice seriously but I'm telling you just watch and internalize their actions.When you get close enough they pull back the layers so you can get to know the "hamster" inside.You may not fuck these broads but all their friends are fair game and you've already got the cosign.Female rationale goes against conventional wisdom so the chick you assume is a slut may be a prude and vice versa.

I would never have female friends. There's no point and they're not gonna teach me anything new. Hell, 99% of girls are gonna get pissed when they find out you're using their "sisters" and only want pussy out of them. Complete waste of time.

Post: #47

(12-20-2012 08:20 PM)houston Wrote:  

(12-20-2012 08:15 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  I've had some INCREDIBLE insight into the female mind via the "friend zone". Fellas IMHO every player needs female "friends".These are attractive women that you really don't have any chemistry with but are purely friends without any benefits other than friendship.These woman can crack your brain open and pour more knowledge inside than any amount of reading game books.Just by WATCHING how they interact and choose who they fuck and suck you can learn the subtle cues.Never take female advice seriously but I'm telling you just watch and internalize their actions.When you get close enough they pull back the layers so you can get to know the "hamster" inside.You may not fuck these broads but all their friends are fair game and you've already got the cosign.Female rationale goes against conventional wisdom so the chick you assume is a slut may be a prude and vice versa.

I would never have female friends. There's no point and they're not gonna teach me anything new. Hell, 99% of girls are gonna get pissed when they find out you're using their "sisters" and only want pussy out of them. Complete waste of time.

Attractive females attract other attractive females...and in the end most of my frmale friends are just "one of the guys". It's a 2-way street because I have no guilt or shame if she bangs a guy friend of mine...Females make the best wingmen as well.I've landed chix just because they get curious when they see me with other hot chix.

Post: #48

Honestly vag tightness has as much to do with their workouts as it does with how many times theyve been fucked.

Ive banged a 30yo women who had popped a kid but she could have cracked a walnut in that clam. Crossfit instructor.

I dont mind chicks with experience, but then at the same time I know broads w high numbers who are total starfish.

Post: #49

(12-18-2012 08:22 PM)godofwar Wrote:  how many dicks do you guys think the average American 25 year old female has had in her lifetime?

3 - 6....All you have to do is ask them...

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #50

(12-20-2012 11:54 AM)slubu Wrote:  One of my favorite bangs this year is when I stuck it out with some bar slut through hours of driving around, entertaining friends and walking her hermaphroditic dog, drinking wine with her neighbors until 4am to then only get the bang after that....

the God of Pit Bull Game salutes you !!!
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