Post: #101

Wouldn't the girls at places in soi 11 expect a "fee" for their service? I only know clubs like bossy and climax and they definitely do not feature freebies but part-time hookers. My hotel is in soi 11 so I will go check it out tomorrow.

Post: #102

@Asaxon

You will get used to poor places and going to a tiny room with no air con after a while. Remember even if she has a decent job she is probably not making more than 9,000 to 12,000 Baht ($300-$400) a month. Over time your standards on comfort will relax or you will learn to always go to your place.

Walking around Bangkok in the heat with a big crowd can take it out of anyone.

NO just because you are on soi 11 does not mean they are working girls. Climax and Bossy are after hours clubs and yes chances are 50 to 80% of the girls there are working. But clubs that are not after hours like q bar (I don't recommend), bed supper club (Not worth it, has been club), and the new Levels (worth checking out) might have something like 10%-20% girls working there and they are pretty easy to spot. If the girl is working you are going to normally find out in the first 15 minutes. They dont want to waste there night on some one who isn't going to pay. Lots of hot girls who like foreign guys and speak english will go to these clubs.

I still prefer RCA though.

Post: #103

Damn these updates are great. Hard to make up my mind now. I am gonna be in Thailand for 2 months and I cant decide weather I wanna stay in Bkk for a good full month or not. Set up a good amount of dates and women and then head south for some beaches and maybe hit up Singapore for a few days. I am over the douche central full moon party as I have seen it already. But I had a decent SNL rate in Phuket and Samui with Thais, Russians and Euro chicks.

Post: #104

(11-28-2012 05:52 PM)Kdog Wrote:  Damn these updates are great. Hard to make up my mind now. I am gonna be in Thailand for 2 months and I cant decide weather I wanna stay in Bkk for a good full month or not. Set up a good amount of dates and women and then head south for some beaches and maybe hit up Singapore for a few days. I am over the douche central full moon party as I have seen it already. But I had a decent SNL rate in Phuket and Samui with Thais, Russians and Euro chicks.

Stay in BKK for a month for sure. Asaxon is making things sound much worse than they really are. I think he is having trouble adjusting to BKK, which also happened to me my first trip. With the info on this board, you should be able to have a great time there. I think Asaxon could benefit from going back and reading many of the BKK/Thailand threads on here. I wish I would have known about this forum on my first trip.

Post: #105

(11-28-2012 07:55 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(11-28-2012 05:52 PM)Kdog Wrote:  Damn these updates are great. Hard to make up my mind now. I am gonna be in Thailand for 2 months and I cant decide weather I wanna stay in Bkk for a good full month or not. Set up a good amount of dates and women and then head south for some beaches and maybe hit up Singapore for a few days. I am over the douche central full moon party as I have seen it already. But I had a decent SNL rate in Phuket and Samui with Thais, Russians and Euro chicks.

Stay in BKK for a month for sure. Asaxon is making things sound much worse than they really are. I think he is having trouble adjusting to BKK, which also happened to me my first trip. With the info on this board, you should be able to have a great time there. I think Asaxon could benefit from going back and reading many of the BKK/Thailand threads on here. I wish I would have known about this forum on my first trip.

So do I man...all the time wasted in the typical backpacker/sexpat areas+clubs. I think I have read every thread twice just in anticipation lol.

Post: #106

@RioNomad How do I make things sound bad? The place is great, exotic, interesting and so far I had no really bad experiences. I just describe things as I see them here (concerning heat, girls etc) and they definitely are different from life in the west or even South America, both good and bad.

Post: #107

(11-28-2012 02:35 PM)Asaxon Wrote:  Update: I met another online girl at the BTS station to go to the "river festival". We ended up having to walk about 2 to 3 miles through a serious crowd and I was drenched and less than impressed by the "festival" that consisted of seriously overpriced restaurants and market stalls which you find anywhere in Bangkok. We had a horrible Indian meal (sauce was 50% fat...) and could not get a taxi on the way back due to traffic. We had to walk the whole way again. When we finally saw an available cab, she did not flag it but asked if I was tired. I said yes but was not going to go to sleep anytime soon. She inquired if I wanted to see her room which seemed a bit too direct to me (she had been shy before). We proceeded through some alleys, backalleys, side alleys and even narrower subside alleys that looked like a bad, filthy version of a Chinatown movie set. Not a white person in sight anywhere and we got stared at quite a bit. At a small stand she wanted to buy something to drink and attempted to switch my coke to a beer. I felt like a girl on a date with a sleazy monger, being taken back to her room, offered alcohol etc... her apartment building looked nice on the outside but turned out to have small one-room accommodations only. More a guesthouse/ transient place than a normal apartment building. Her room was just that: 300 square feet of tiles with a bed, three suitcases and a corner with a rice cooker.
She told me that there was no a/c and that I should shower to cool off. I could not see a bathroom and she directed me outside. The balcony had a semi-enclosed part with a toilet, showerhead and sink all in one. It looked more like a fish cleaning station than a bathroom. I hoped she would come out as well, "helping me shower" but she remained inside. I got dressed, she then took her turn showering, leaving me with the tv playing "The Killers" music videos featuring a song about "harlots in Las Vegas". I felt seriously deranged at this point (I am normally hesitant to go to people's houses, much less shower there and now I was in a ghetto apartment in Thailand waiting for a girl who I only knew as "Plih"). When she came back we both beat around the bush a little. I was hot due to lack of a/c and exhausted after a day of walking around Bangkok, not feeling much of an urge anymore. Giving each other massages we transitioned to kissing and more. She remained very passive throughout all this but offered no resistance when I removed her bra and pants. She definitely enjoyed some manual stimulation and quickly asked if I had a condom. Shame on me- I did not because I had not taken my wallet but only cash. She searched her place, came up with a ridiculously small and thin Thai condom which had to do. The sex was nothing remarkable since I was too tired and "crammed into the shrink wrap". After we were done she invited me to stay which I had to bow out of because I wanted to go back to my room, take a real shower and sleep in a proper bed. Maybe I am getting old but staying over isn't much fun anymore and can create unnecessary issues.
When saying goodbye she made me promise to call her when arriving at the hotel. I have now tried 3 times but get a busy signal or voice mail every time... guess she just used me for sex;-)

Yeah I make a general rule that I won't stray far from my hotel. If I want to go to another part of the city I will just get a hotel there. I had a hotel close to the river, so we were able to walk. We took a river boat tour and watched the fireworks and lanterns while there. I'm not a romantic guy but it was pretty amazing. For me the Festival was a ton of fun I tried octopus and grasshoppers for the first time. Capped it all off and I was within walking distance from my hotel. A good night. I never go with a girl back to her place, I haven't once since I've been in Asia. But still, you got the lay seems like a job well done.

Post: #108

Update: All the groundwork and pipelining seems to be culminating in a rather busy way today: I got two txts from girls, not knowing who they are (handed out my number to maybe 20 girls total but cannot assign the new txts with certainty), both suggesting we meet at Terminal 21 this afternoon. Looks like my hotel location automatically makes them want to go there and since I do not know who I am dealing with it might not be a bad spot: busy enough to ditch them if they turn out overly ugly or something is off, yet close enough to my hotel to bring them back if things work out like it.
Last night's girl is bombarding me with calls and txts today after going awol after I left last night.
I have to say I prefer staying around my hotel but then having been through the part of Bangkok where actual Thais live and hang out was an eye-opener, too. So was seeing the living conditions. On a side note, I had a few soi dogs block my way and growl at me last night. The same animals that just hang out by the side of the road during the day (or at night in the busy areas) and seem absolutely harmless and friendly appear to be protective of their territory in the residential districts at 1:30am. They definitely were not fond of me marching through their soi alone and the fact that there were maybe 10 feet between buildings made the situation a bit awkward.
Off to Terminal 21 I go, curious to find out what surprise awaits.

Post: #109

I'd strongly suggest you to start first with Singapore, then work your up way up going North to the beaches in the south of Thailand. Spend 1-2 weeks doing that then head to BKK. And you will fall in love with it and will not want to leave it. My plan when I first went to LOS was exactly like yours, I had scheduled about 1 month in BKK, a month in CM and another in the beaches in the south and another traveling to other countries in the region. Long story short, I barely left BKK that's how cool and awesome that place is. At the very end of my trip, had to literally drag myself out of it to spend a week in Phuket and other beaches around. BKK is truly addictive. Be warned brother!

Axson, good job man with your updates, I'm enjoying reading them very much. As others have pointed out, don't be so paranoid, BKK is a very safe place. Under no circumstances should you start a fight with a Thai, no matter how small they may appear and how buff you may be. Thais do not fight fair, once a fight breaks between a Thai and a farang, the entire street gangs up to beat the crap out of the farang. Also, your biggest threat will be the drunken English guys out there. Avoid them. Other than that, relax and enjoy as you're in one of the best places in the world.

(11-28-2012 05:52 PM)Kdog Wrote:  Damn these updates are great. Hard to make up my mind now. I am gonna be in Thailand for 2 months and I cant decide weather I wanna stay in Bkk for a good full month or not. Set up a good amount of dates and women and then head south for some beaches and maybe hit up Singapore for a few days. I am over the douche central full moon party as I have seen it already. But I had a decent SNL rate in Phuket and Samui with Thais, Russians and Euro chicks.

Post: #110

@Kdog - RioNomad and Vacancier Permanent are right about giving BKK at least a month if you are staying in Thailand for 2 months.

I would do something like this....

Singapore: 3 days
Thai Islands your choice which ones: 5 to 7 days
Chiang mai: 5 to 7 days
Bangkok: 1 month+

That leaves you with a week or two left and you can then decide if you want to hit up another island or something. If you go to Bangkok first you may never leave and go see everything else.

Post: #111

(11-29-2012 09:43 AM)DirectDanger Wrote:  @Kdog - RioNomad and Vacancier Permanent are right about giving BKK at least a month if you are staying in Thailand for 2 months.

I would do something like this....

Singapore: 3 days
Thai Islands your choice which ones: 5 to 7 days
Chiang mai: 5 to 7 days
Bangkok: 1 month+

That leaves you with a week or two left and you can then decide if you want to hit up another island or something. If you go to Bangkok first you may never leave and go see everything else.

That's a good plan thanks man. I'm gonna check Air Asia for flights to Singapore get there quick and work my way up.

Post: #112

Update: What an exhausting day! I went to Terminal 21 to meet my first mystery date who txted me 2 minutes before our time to say she had to have lunch with a client and would be an hour late. Not wanting to return to the hotel, I went into a cafe, sat down and ate a snack. Out of nowhere a somewhat run-down looking guy, appearing to be about 80 years old, asked if the other seat at my table was taken and plonked himself down. I expected him to chat me up and either ask for money or a free drink since he looked a bit tattered. Instead he pretty much told me his life story in a nutshell, going on about how much he loved Cambodia, how he was thankful to England (he was English) for allowing him to retire well-off enough to travel to SE Asia etc etc. He also openly discussed his problem with girls ("east is east and west is west") lying to please him or say what he wanted to hear instead of being honest etc. Altogether nothing too exciting but it made my time go by fast and I felt that lending an ear to an obviously lonely older guy could only be good.
At Terminal 21 I finally met my girl at Starbucks and was taken aback a bit. She had a punk hair cut, died blonde, and very bright makeup. Not exactly classy but looking well put-together. Her English was passable and we went to a Thai place where she ordered me whatever she thought was "typical" fare. I lied and claimed never to have had pad thai before, just to give her something to feel confident about and awaken the nurturing instinct. The date went long, a bit too long for my taste and I started getting bored. When she noticed me yawning she poutily asked if I wanted to go back to my room. I responded only if she would go with me and that my room was pink, so as an interior designer, she should check it out. She claimed not to believe me about it being pink etc, agreed to accompany me and the rest is routine by now: cool off by showering, tell her I like her, kiss and take her clothes off, done. There honestly wasn't much passion involved on my part but it is another notch in the books.

I walked her back to the skytrain station, then wanted to relax in the hotel for an hour before my 6 o clock date. As soon as I got into the room I got an unknown call and a girl cancelling for the night because she was just then crossing from Cambodia. I did not remember my date travelling but thought nothing of it, rebooked for tomorrow. Thinking that I had the night to read, watch tv and relax a bit, I then got a txt saying "I am Terminal 21, I waiting". It then dawned on me that my 6 o clock date had not cancelled but that the call had been from some other girl I had lined up days ago and forgotten about. I quickly got dressed, ran to Terminal and there she was: an average face but probably one of the best bodies I have ever seen: 5 foot short, a maximum of 90 pounds, nice curves in the right places, tight dress, high heels. This was what yellow fever had to be all about! We sat down, ordered a juice and she told me about her job as a sales manager, her car and that she was an avid Christian churchgoer. I did not know if this was good news or bad news (Filipinas are churchy and very open to sex). She gave me her business card and her first name was Mamaporn, I kid you not.. .Mama Porn, how much better could this get? We talked, then she suggested a movie which I normally don't like for dates but was okay with in this case as she had initially planned to leave after an hour or so. The movie would not start for an hour so we went to eat because she said that someone like me "must be hungry, you soo big eat a lot". She did not mean tall (which I am) but fat! I was a little taken aback by this since I am not exactly skinny but not obese by any means (6'3 and maybe 200 pounds). I was already stuffed from my dinner with date number one and my cafe snack with the Englishman but didn't mind sitting down and looking at that body. This was the first time in ages I was really mesmerized by a woman's figure. She touched my arm a few times during the meal and when walking but did not "hook in". I had a hard time reading whether she wanted me to hold her hand or touch her back (thought this was not seen favorably in Thai culture, at least in public) plus I would literally need to bend down. During the movie we were separated by a huge armrest, so no further escalation. Afterwards she offered to drive me home and suggested I come look at her office tomorrow. Also, if I wanted to go to a beach she would be my guide (advice pls, does "guide" automatically mean p4play here? I have heard girls use that term to politely suggest a girlfriend experience for payment). At this point I decided to play it cool, let her think I am "not like that" and hope for a chance later on. She could not have parked her car at my hotel anyways and the vibe I got was friendly but not quite yet ready for a safe closing. She just now txted me to thank me for the night and suggested we meet tomorrow...

Post: #113

Good stuff man. I'd say go for it. You have nothing to lose but make it clear to her from the get go that you don't do P4P and see her reaction. If you get a good reaction, then by all means. Also, ask her which beach did she mean? If Huan Han then that's a good sign as that's a place the middle and upper class of BKK go for a weekend/few days as it's not far by car. However, If she means Pattaya then that could be more tricky to put it mildly lol but it could be fun...it's a freak circus town to say the least.

Post: #114

I get mixed signals. She has a semi-professional job, nice car etc but then she criticized my appearance and so on, making me think she might not be into me. It would be Hua Hin or something like it, definitely not Pattaya. I paid for everything tonight which seems to be the norm here and is still cheap (movie, 3 course meal in nice restaurant, maybe $20 total for the night)..all the other girls at least had a token "I pay now" moment when buying 30 cents' worth of coke at 7/11

Post: #115

Update: I got woken up by a call from the girl who had crossed from Cambodia yesterday. She wanted to meet for breakfast which I was not prepared to go out for, still being tired. Therefore I told her we could have breakfast at my hotel in the room. Amazingly, she agreed, I met her in the lobby and we went upstairs (they did not id her which I have see them do with hookers, good sign). She is from the Philippines, nothing to write home about facewise but still attractive enough for me right now, looking different from the Thais and hence offering some variety. Some shy talking ensued, I made her sit on my bed and she just giggled when I escalated to rubbing her shoulders, kissing and declothing her rather rapidly. Asian girls seem extremely passive during the initiation phase which - in the west- would make me wonder if they dislike me or are stunned. The procedure went on into a fullblown starfish session. She moaned a lot but felt limp the entire time.
I have now completed the challenge as far as my minimum number of girls is concerned. I am slightly exhausted and annoyed with having to answer emails, txts, calls all day, going to Terminal 21, having to schedule the girls around one another etc. I have had office jobs with less coordination and stress, so I am thinking of slowing it down and spending my days on relaxation, reading and tourist stuff, doing nightclub game at 10pm. Now that I am writing this, the fantastic girl from last night just txts and wants to meet me at 4pm by her office, half an hour of skytrain ride from here. Not sure if she means she wants me inside her office or just to see her close to it and go from there. So much for my day off but she is one notch I am itching to finish.

Post: #116

Are you going to try and snag a russian in thailand?

Post: #117

would not be opposed to it but I have yet to meet non-hooker Russians who do not come in a huge group. Any tips?

Post: #118

(11-30-2012 12:36 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  would not be opposed to it but I have yet to meet non-hooker Russians who do not come in a huge group. Any tips?

Met some Russians in Phuket on Bangla road in Patong. Thought they were British at first the music was so loud lol. Honestly you see a lot of the cavemen drunk whore mongor Russians more than the eligible fuckable Russian girl tourist IMO.

Post: #119

Update: NO MORE DAYTIME INTERNET DATES. I had the date from hell with my Ms "nice body" today. She wanted to show me her office, picked me up at the BTS station and we drove around in circles for half an hour. We finally got into the garage of her office building where we were questioned by the security guy and I got a "visitor" sticker. On her floor, she introduced me to countless people who all awkwardly shook my hand and spoke to me in Thai. So much for an after hour quickie: the office was full of people, an open room, an insurance sales place as far as I could tell. Going back down, she made me wait for her for 20 minutes in a coffee place as she needed to do some more work. When I thought it was finally time to go she asked me to go back upstairs to wait in the "meeting room" for another 30 minutes. This room featured chairs, a small podium, a slide show of the company history and a stereo playing techno in front of a table with what looked like raffle prizes. Without warning, my date was seated behind me in some "achievement" chair, the room filled with 100 to 120 people who all stared at me and some guy went on stage, the music being pitched high, low, high low by the office dj. He spoke in Thai, then pointed at me and asked me to come up. I had no idea what this was about but could not really bow out. Even if I had run away the building required me to leave with my date (security tag). I bumbled up front, standing there in jeans and a polo shirt in front of people wearing business formal who giggled and stared at me. I had to speak into a microphone and answer questions about my name and where I was from, half of which I did not understand. The "showmaster" was awfully amused and acted like an infomercial guy. He asked me "you like Thai wooooman, ehhhh?" which got the room to giggle and made my date frown. How do you answer that question properly without sounding mean or like a whoremonger? I said "only one, that one", pointing at my date. Now to the worst part. Infomercial guy: " What song you want to sing?" Me: "aehh no, I don't sing well". "Ahhhh, okay, I choose for youuu". The lights went out except for a spot on me and they were pumping gangnam style. I stood there like the village idiot, not sure what to do. The guy then poked me in the chest and moved my arms for me. I somehow managed to play along and do a bit of karaoke (try the lyrics in Korean!) and saw a bunch of little lights in the audience. No, they were not lighters but the control lights of smart phone cameras. They all had a jolly good time filming me as the attraction of the Friday afternoon sales award festivities..... I should search "farang gangnam style" on youtube later, I am sure this will not remain private with that many cameras.
After the music show they went on, awarding everybody and their mother prizes, then standing up, making some kind of very repetitive pledge for 10 minutes ("hah la ha la kaaaa" again and again). This whole outift was an infomercial/ scientology/ kids' birthday clown show rolled into one and took 2 hours.
After escaping my date wanted to go out with me and her friend but asked me if I needed a shower first since the meeting room had been hot. She would drive me and wait in the lobby. This was the final straw for me. Obviously, she was not eager to come into my room and had also asked me to go to church with her on Sunday.... almost a no-lay guarantee now. I got her to drop me off at a BTS station instead, saying I would meet her a couple of hours later if I was not too tired which of course I turned out to be.
What a waste of an afternoon in BKK! Fortunately, I had set up another date at Terminal 21 for 7 o clock to which I arrived late. The girl looked a bit rough but doable, slightly older than I had hoped. We went to have dinner and she was very pleasant, friendly but had odd scars on her chest. She had needed 3 hours to get to T21 and I felt bad I had almost ditched her. I somehow did not feel like pressing for a same night lay and let her go home. She txted me 10 minutes later that the skytrain was full and I answered she could stay at my place. By then she had already boarded but txted back "I hope we meet again soon, please clear your bed for me". Shall do.

Post: #120

Man what a messed up story! Kinda funny though haha, itll be a great one to tell folk back home.

Post: #121

HAHAHAHAHA wow man. She gave you no heads up why she brought you? Wow.... messed up.... but pretty funny haha

Post: #122

She claimed that the "Friday party" usually doesn't take that long. Wonder if this was a "shit test". I played along to save her and me embarrassment but this is it, no more spending time and taking cross-town trips to be dragged around in hopes of a notch... nightgame or pre-determined sleepovers only from now on. Got one of the latter set up for tomorrow. Hope my hotel staff do not give me too much of a hassle about it

Post: #123

Is there a reason you keep doing lunch dates at Terminal 21? Not trying to be an asshole, but you are making rookie game mistakes. Always go for a drink date past dinner time. A lunch date at a crowded mall is much less likely to lead to anything. It's crowded, they won't feel comfortable getting close in that environment, and there are no drinks to loosen them up. Plus, if a girl refuses to meet you for drinks at Coco Walk, she's probably too much of a square anyways.

I'm telling you, do a 9:30pm date at Coco Walk by Rathethewi BTS. It is close to you. Have some drinks, tell her it's hot out, and that you should go watch this new horror movie (thanks DirectDanger) in your room. Be sure to have some alcohol in the fridge. You can even venue change her to this little bar left of coco walk(when facing the sign) on the street corner before you go. It's small, and has no aircon, so good time to.use.the "its hot" line.

You're setting yourself up for bad dates man. Although, it was a hilarious story. Much better than a random bang story.

Post: #124

(11-30-2012 10:10 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  Update: NO MORE DAYTIME INTERNET DATES. I had the date from hell with my Ms "nice body" today. She wanted to show me her office, picked me up at the BTS station and we drove around in circles for half an hour. We finally got into the garage of her office building where we were questioned by the security guy and I got a "visitor" sticker. On her floor, she introduced me to countless people who all awkwardly shook my hand and spoke to me in Thai. So much for an after hour quickie: the office was full of people, an open room, an insurance sales place as far as I could tell. Going back down, she made me wait for her for 20 minutes in a coffee place as she needed to do some more work. When I thought it was finally time to go she asked me to go back upstairs to wait in the "meeting room" for another 30 minutes. This room featured chairs, a small podium, a slide show of the company history and a stereo playing techno in front of a table with what looked like raffle prizes. Without warning, my date was seated behind me in some "achievement" chair, the room filled with 100 to 120 people who all stared at me and some guy went on stage, the music being pitched high, low, high low by the office dj. He spoke in Thai, then pointed at me and asked me to come up. I had no idea what this was about but could not really bow out. Even if I had run away the building required me to leave with my date (security tag). I bumbled up front, standing there in jeans and a polo shirt in front of people wearing business formal who giggled and stared at me. I had to speak into a microphone and answer questions about my name and where I was from, half of which I did not understand. The "showmaster" was awfully amused and acted like an infomercial guy. He asked me "you like Thai wooooman, ehhhh?" which got the room to giggle and made my date frown. How do you answer that question properly without sounding mean or like a whoremonger? I said "only one, that one", pointing at my date. Now to the worst part. Infomercial guy: " What song you want to sing?" Me: "aehh no, I don't sing well". "Ahhhh, okay, I choose for youuu". The lights went out except for a spot on me and they were pumping gangnam style. I stood there like the village idiot, not sure what to do. The guy then poked me in the chest and moved my arms for me. I somehow managed to play along and do a bit of karaoke (try the lyrics in Korean!) and saw a bunch of little lights in the audience. No, they were not lighters but the control lights of smart phone cameras. They all had a jolly good time filming me as the attraction of the Friday afternoon sales award festivities..... I should search "farang gangnam style" on youtube later, I am sure this will not remain private with that many cameras.
After the music show they went on, awarding everybody and their mother prizes, then standing up, making some kind of very repetitive pledge for 10 minutes ("hah la ha la kaaaa" again and again). This whole outift was an infomercial/ scientology/ kids' birthday clown show rolled into one and took 2 hours.
After escaping my date wanted to go out with me and her friend but asked me if I needed a shower first since the meeting room had been hot. She would drive me and wait in the lobby. This was the final straw for me. Obviously, she was not eager to come into my room and had also asked me to go to church with her on Sunday.... almost a no-lay guarantee now. I got her to drop me off at a BTS station instead, saying I would meet her a couple of hours later if I was not too tired which of course I turned out to be.
What a waste of an afternoon in BKK! Fortunately, I had set up another date at Terminal 21 for 7 o clock to which I arrived late. The girl looked a bit rough but doable, slightly older than I had hoped. We went to have dinner and she was very pleasant, friendly but had odd scars on her chest. She had needed 3 hours to get to T21 and I felt bad I had almost ditched her. I somehow did not feel like pressing for a same night lay and let her go home. She txted me 10 minutes later that the skytrain was full and I answered she could stay at my place. By then she had already boarded but txted back "I hope we meet again soon, please clear your bed for me". Shall do.

The "you like Thai ladies" joke is extremely typical of the Thais and their sense of humor - they'll be saying it a lot to you, especially if seen with Thai women, but even if not, so get used to it. Taking it seriously and acting awkward is the worst way to handle it possible. Just laugh it off - shit, learn how to accept that it's funny.

As for Gagnam style, you should have busted a little jig. Thais don't dance much and they would have thought it was absolutely hilarious!

I honestly feel sorry for you, Man. That could have been one of the most fun, hilarious, and random experiences of your trip to Bangkok, you could have used it as a chance to connect with locals, you could have felt out the business networking possibilities, you could have had everyone rolling with an actual attempt to sing, and all you can do is is moan and groan about a girl.

There will be plenty of chances to get laid in the future, especially in Thailand.

Here's another way you could have handled it, given a change in mindset. A similar thing happened to me one time when I accompanied a Thai friend from Chiang Mai to Northern Laos for a free ride to get my visa. He was a member of Zhulian, which is a popular network marketing company in Southeast Asia (he's done so well with it that he clears about $3K per month, which is solid for someone born lower-class Thai, and they've even bought him a nice car).

Anyhow, I ended up in a similar meeting and got called up to be presented and to talk, etc. Yeah it was awkward but I just fell back on the typical shit that gets Thais laughing, made fun of their song and their Zhulian cult in a light-natured way, and got everyone busting up. You feel like a monkey on display but hey this is travel. You're a stranger in their midst and they're introducing you in their own way.

The Zhulian peeps loved me and invited me to a huge temple party that night. Plenty of beer and Laos girls asking me to dance in their fucked-up traditional line-dance way and I loved it. Not a foreigner to be spotted in the whole town while I was there. I slept at this Laos person's house, showering with a bucket of cold water.

A day or two later, the top-ranking Zhulian guys took me off to a business dinner at this Laos village - an old couple that were obviously important in the area but to our standards very, very poor. I didn't understand a word of what was said at the dinner but I ate some amazing home-cooked food and everyone laughed that I could rock the homemade whiskey with them. Everyone doted over me like I was some kind of celebrity all because I was just some foreigner off the beaten track.

It was an amazing peek into Laos culture and one of my best travel experiences. Sure, I got bored after about a week and had to hit the road, but I soaked it up for what it was worth.

I went on a few more of their trips to other places, and for years after that while living in Chiang Mai, the Laos guys who visited would make sure my Thai friend drug me out to the clubs with them to party. My point is that you have to embrace the little things that happen to you - sometimes it's awkward and sometimes it's boring but this is is what travel is all about.

Now I understand you were caught off guard as you were expecting a date, but I personally would rethink what I want out of life and what I want out of travel if all that mattered to me anymore was another notch. Sometimes things go wrong abroad, and you make the most out of it. Also, I wouldn't be so hard on the girl. She was trying to show off and act prestigious but the whole thing got carried away by the limits of her own culture - Thai "time," social expectations, etc.

You're in another country and culture. Enjoy it for what it's worth.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

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I see recommendations for a few days in Singapore in this thread, is there any reason you guys are giving those but for sight seeing? Gaming in Singapore is crap compared to BKK.