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alanz · 2017-03-02 13:51:00 · #1777
LMFAO - “Sexy And I Know It” ))
Ringo · 2017-03-02 15:36:00 · #1778
(02-26-2017 06:40 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  
(02-26-2017 01:12 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Her album "Tapestry" is number 36 on Rolling Stone's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time.

Has anyone ever heard of her?

I mentioned in the Musician's Thread how you have to work your own unique niche now, since the Monoculture has crumbled.

'Tapestry' sold 25 million copies back in the day. Every home I went into as a child had - at the very least - a copy of 'Tapestry', 'Rumours' and 'Bat Out Of Hell'. These albums crossed multiple generation gaps and resonated in a way that's impossible for younger people to understand today. This is why I keep saying people like Beyonce and Kayne West aren't that famous. Teenagers, 30-somethings and 60-somethings all had 'Tapestry'.

When I was young, one of the things that made me want to be a songwriter was noticing the names under the song titles on 7 inch singles, and that some songwriting partnerships were reliably-good records. Huh, you could write multiple songs for other people, and make a good career out of it. Goffin / King was reliable one I noted - 'King' being Carole *. So from my childhood alone, long before 'Tapestry', she'd already written the music for hits like:

Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?
Some Kind Of Wonderful
Chains
The Locomotion
I Can't Stay Mad At You
Go Away Little Girl
Don't Say Nothing Bad About My Baby
Up On The Roof
One Fine Day
Just Once In My Life
Don't Bring Me Down
I'm Into Something Good
Pleasant Valley Sunday
You Make Me Feel Like A Natural Woman

I find her breaking of conventions fascinating, she often avoids the obvious thing average songwriters would do, so now I'll teach any musicians reading the Carole King Turnaround.

The three most important chords in any song are the I, IV and V7 chords. The I is the sense of 'home' to the listener - there should be a feeling of natural arrival when it is sounded. The V7 has a powerful pull towards the I - the ear anticipates the I following it.

Carole often subverts this expectation - grabbing the listener's attention. Instead of the V7, she'll play the root of the V7 in the bass, then put a IVmaj7 where the V7 should be.

Play these chords, in sequence In C:

I: C E G
IV: F A C
V7: G B D F

Hear how it's 'La Bamba' or 'Twist and Shout'.

Now, substitute the IVmaj7 for the V7:

IVmaj7: Left Hand: G. Right Hand: F A C E

Cyle it around, as in 'La Bamba', and hear the difference. Suddenly there's a slight wistful, reflective quality to the cycle. A little bit of cloud over the sun. This is emotional nuance.

Knowing how to do this kind of untraditional thing successfully is the difference between workman and genius musicians, and this is my issue with a large chunk of Indie musicians: they don't have the skill to do these kind of subversions of expectations, so particularly when things get acoustic and old-timey, songs putter along, going exactly where you'd expect them to go, boring me out of my skull. It's very, very rare for me nowadays to be playing a song, hear something very striking and unusual and run to a guitar or keyboard to figure out what the hell they just did.

This is also where I have trouble working with classical musicians. They'll start arguing with me about how this isn't the done thing and doesn't make sense, until they hear the final track and say "I never would have thought that would have sounded so good."

Think outside the box. Grabbing the listener's attention is more important than ever in this climate. Added bonus: it's much, much harder to get sued for plagiarism if you're not doing what everyone else does.

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* See also:
Holland / Dozier / Holland
Lennon / McCartney

Awesome post. I'd read a AB Talks Music weekly/monthly column.
Ringo · 2017-03-02 17:08:00 · #1779
Eric Clapton - solo, with Cream, Blind Faith, Derek and the Dominos - and The Allman Brothers Band are two of my all time favorites and they seem to pop back into my life ever so often.

I've been listening to Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs and their live album at the Fillmore (albeit without Duane) for the past few days and goddamn it, these guys were good together.





And to think Clapton credits the album to his conflicting love for his buddy George Harrison's wife, Pattie Boyd. She was "Layla". Allegedly she was also the inspiration for Clapton's "Wonderful Tonight" and Harrison's "Something".

Must have been a helluva bomb pussy.

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LeeEnfield303 · 2017-03-02 18:36:00 · #1780
My Darkest Days.
crispytaco · 2017-03-02 19:17:00 · #1781




Darn, I wanna make a party and dress like that.
UlteriorMotive · 2017-03-03 16:09:00 · #1782
One of my most played House numbers.



LockeAndLoad · 2017-03-03 16:10:00 · #1783
Clutch "Psychic Warfare" album.
UlteriorMotive · 2017-03-05 10:32:00 · #1784


YoungBlade · 2017-03-05 16:23:00 · #1785
Cr33pin · 2017-03-05 18:17:00 · #1786


The Lizard of Oz · 2017-03-05 23:01:00 · #1787


The Lizard of Oz · 2017-03-05 23:08:00 · #1788


stugatz · 2017-03-06 00:09:00 · #1789




In the top three games ever made, in my very humble opinion. The soundtrack just ups the replay value.

This makes lifting sessions far easier. (Industrial and ambient was always the sweet spot for me.)
Soundbyte · 2017-03-06 01:20:00 · #1790




Guilty pleasure song.
YoungBlade · 2017-03-07 10:44:00 · #1791
TigerMandingo · 2017-03-07 12:43:00 · #1792


Soundbyte · 2017-03-07 14:48:00 · #1793










Mr. D · 2017-03-07 19:28:00 · #1794




Edgar Winter on sax...
arafat scarf · 2017-03-07 20:42:00 · #1795


fokker · 2017-03-09 00:52:00 · #1796
fokker · 2017-03-09 00:53:00 · #1797
(03-03-2017 04:10 PM)LockeAndLoad Wrote:  Clutch "Psychic Warfare" album.

You can never go wrong with a bit of Clutch! Great band.
stugatz · 2017-03-09 01:37:00 · #1798
(03-09-2017 12:53 AM)fokker Wrote:  
(03-03-2017 04:10 PM)LockeAndLoad Wrote:  Clutch "Psychic Warfare" album.

You can never go wrong with a bit of Clutch! Great band.





I can't say I've ever listened to much Clutch, but what I've heard sounds a lot like the Melvins - one of my favorite bands. (They're classified as grunge for some reason - but only because they're from Seattle. They're more of a metal band with experimental tendencies, even though they did influence Nirvana and other groups.)
fokker · 2017-03-09 02:19:00 · #1799
(03-09-2017 01:37 AM)stugatz Wrote:  
(03-09-2017 12:53 AM)fokker Wrote:  
(03-03-2017 04:10 PM)LockeAndLoad Wrote:  Clutch "Psychic Warfare" album.

You can never go wrong with a bit of Clutch! Great band.





I can't say I've ever listened to much Clutch, but what I've heard sounds a lot like the Melvins - one of my favorite bands. (They're classified as grunge for some reason - but only because they're from Seattle. They're more of a metal band with experimental tendencies, even though they did influence Nirvana and other groups.)

I only know Clutch and the Melvins because when I was a kid, I played the Tony Hawk's series of video games, which usually had some heavy alternative music in their soundtracks (Clutch, Melvins, Nebula, High on Fire, Queens of the Stone Age etc. etc.). The Melvins do have some good stuff (Stoner Witch is their best album), though I haven't listened to them in a while.
stugatz · 2017-03-09 03:30:00 · #1800




I've actually met Buzz Osborne, the Melvins play in very small venues because they're so obscure. (Well, he walked up the bar I was sitting at, ordered two beers, and I was too starstruck to say hi.) The last time I saw a live show, they had two drummers and my ears rang for four days.

Stoner Witch is my favorite too. Their early stuff (if you've gotten into it) is very, very hard to get into. This has to be at a 50 BPM tempo, if that.

In the late 1990s they got all experimental, though they've gotten a lot more mainstream in the past decade. One thing about the Melvins when they get weird - even when it doesn't work, it's usually tolerable. I like that in a band.
amity · 2017-03-09 08:54:00 · #1801
(03-07-2017 02:48 PM)Soundbyte Wrote:  










Excellent thanks for these man!
I remember loving this song from a few years back, particularly the version in the middle video here,
Some slick dance moves there!
I can throw a few shapes when the mood takes me but not as good as these guys! Banana
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