Post: #1

When I was a teenager I had no game BUT yet I was highly effective with girls I really wanted. Now, I have tons of "game" yet I am nowhere near as effective with girls I really want. It has taken me years to analyze and break down what I was doing then vs what I am doing now. And it's really very simple:

My MO when I was younger was actually quite simple yet very effective. It consisted of just two related things:

1. A "strong" sexual desire for the girl.
2. The ability to express that desire to her.

To express the desire you just have to be able to let it out, let it show without being ashamed of it in any way: like a dog. But for that to happen you really have to want the girl, like ready to tear her clothes off want.

I just don’t desire that many women that strongly, didn't even when I was a teenager, but worse, even when I do American society has conditioned me to not let it [desire] out because it’s not considered socially acceptable behavior.

Why does this approach work? You don't have to think about what to do. There are no approach lines, routines, no strategy, nothing. Basically you are always escalating sexually both directly and indirectly from the start. There is no logistics, you will fuck the girl in your car, in the bathroom, anywhere. The only requirement is sexual chemistry. The whole strategy comes down to finding a girl you have a strong sexual chemistry with and just letting your desire take over. An excellent movie that demonstrate how this works is Damage.

After all these years I now have to unlearn a lot of things just to get back something I never had to learn in the first place.

Post: #2

I think what are you describing here is caveman game. It is probably the most satisfying game as it feels natural and you go off how you feel instead of routines, lines and thought.

I did it for one day and it was much fun.

Post: #3

Then I'm going back

Post: #4

You're in more enclosed circles when you're a teenager so it's easier to pull girls.

Post: #5

yes it works. however such strong instant sexual chemistry is relatively rare. what usually happens is that you see an attractive girl and you want to go up to meet her just like that with nothing in mind. if you have already tasted that then congrats cause that's actually the pinnacle. once i tasted that i never wanted to go back to scipted stuff. so i trained myself to go 100% by feel (freestyle mode). it's so worth it.

Post: #6

Actually, this was my MO into my twenties too so it didn't require knowing the girls. Works just as good with girls you've just met.

Actually thinking about it, I believe that this attitude can create sexual chemistry with certain girls. They just respond to it more than others.

I always do freestyle approaches anyway (just so much easier) BUT now my attitude will be very focused. When I look at the girl she will know without any doubt what my intentions are. The other big advantage to this approach is speed. Things can go down pretty quickly. It also works very well with 8+ girls, lesser girls not so much because they will find it intimidating.

Post: #7

Couldn't agree more. There is no point approaching a girl if you don't want to fuck her. Without sexual tension there is nothing. Game would be so much easier for guys if they approached girls they ACTUALLY want to fuck - not to impress their mates, or 'approach for the sake of approaching'. I've done this with super skinny model chicks, but the game I spit is artificial and not genuine.

Post: #8

I couldn't agree more Prophylaxis. That is another thing I intend on working on. I want to get real again with my interaction with women. Currently, I feel a large part of it is just one type of game or another. It's not real anymore. It's like I am an actor in a play. I want to get real again and you can't do that unless you really like and want the girl.

Post: #9

(10-24-2012 01:14 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  It also works very well with 8+ girls, lesser girls not so much because they will find it intimidating.

yup, that's the dirty little secret. hot girls respond better simply because they know they're hot. therefore they can just appreciate honest interest expressed in tasteful way (unlike so so girls who get all defensive and weird).

Post: #10

Yep, hot girls respond better to a more direct, hyper-alpha approach because very men will actually attempt it on them. So to them it's different. The bottom line though is ALL women want to be desired in a sincere manner.

Post: #11

(10-24-2012 08:08 AM)XXL Wrote:  

(10-24-2012 01:14 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  It also works very well with 8+ girls, lesser girls not so much because they will find it intimidating.

yup, that's the dirty little secret. hot girls respond better simply because they know they're hot. therefore they can just appreciate honest interest expressed in tasteful way (unlike so so girls who get all defensive and weird).

This is what game is all about when you get into the 8s and above category. Differentiate Differentiate Differentiate.

Post: #12

I think it's working already. Part of it is that I just have a different vibe now and girls are responding to it in a more sexual way.

Post: #13

I think that was my old style and somewhat my current one. How the hell do I go back to it?

Post: #14

Well, what I am doing is basically this: I am just getting real, with myself and with the girls. I am not running any game in the sense of using routines etc. I still approach but it's just my regular free style stuff: just say something. What is different now is my demeanor. I am not hyper anymore, very calm and smooth. I make a lot of eye contact and I get close immediately into their intimate space. I talk low and slow to normal. The whole point is to communicate my desire without saying a word. Even my kino is more direct and intimate. I want them to know I am touching them in a sexual manner. The conversation is normal stuff but everything else is sexual. Most of it is just in the look. How you look at them. But all of this has to be done in a controlled manner like you are always in control of yourself so the girl feels safe.

In thinking about it I have come to realize that in a way this would be difficult for a lot of guys because it requires you to get real with both yourself and the girl. You have to put yourself on the line and she has to know it and for a lot of guys this will be difficult. (No hiding behind a game persona.) But the payback is that you feel, you really feel great and it's very natural...