Post: #1

Ok, I am definitely not trying to question anyone's morality. What ever gets your rocks off is fine by me. God knows I have my fetishes, but are there some sexual appetites that could actually be detrimental to one progressing in the Game? It would seem to me that some of these activities require quite a bit of submission on the male's part. Even though it's basically role-play, and some might find it super sexy, could over the long-haul these activities start to chip away at a guys self-confidence and the masculine frame he needs to succeed as a true player, Especially with many guys being a recovering betas?

Post: #2

Nah, fuck that noise.

I'm all for gangbanging a ho. Hell I'd take a girl to a sex party for sure and watch her get plowed by a few dudes while i get sucked off by some rando. But I'm not gonna wife her or even gf her. I'm as open-minded as anyone, and there's only a few things I'm not down with.

But for committed relationships, there's gotta be respect. And I don't give a shit what anyone says about being comfortable with their sexuality or the amount of trust in the relationship blah blah blah bunch of therapist psycho-babble...If you're letting the mother of your kids, your lifelong partner get plowed by other dudes in front of you while you're tied up and you actually get off on that shit? Shouldn't be married, and you probably have some latent homosexuality tendencies. (I DO know for a fact, I read this somewhere that most guys who fantasize about their partners getting fucked by another guy have gay tendencies) It's a disrespect to her, and a disrespect for yourself.

I can imagine it'd be easy to get caught up in the moment with wife swapping. You're married, bored as fuck, want some mutual thrill of fucking a new partner, but that shit's just gonna get buried and come up in ugly ways later, unless you're some free-love hippy douchebag that doesn't care about your wife slobbering over any other dude's knob.

Bondage I'm down as fuck with, just one on one. I love dominating chicks and I'm down for girls dominating me. In the latter scenario it's usually me letting her do whatever and then finally breaking free and getting "revenge" on her and doubling down on her ass, bringing it hard.

Post: #3

The simple answer is that as long as you're dictating the acts, it's all good. But in my opinion, all acts aren't equal, even if you're dictating the action. Wife swapping/swinging is right on the fence in my opinion. Sure, some dude is fucking your wife, but you're fucking his too, all with the permission of all parties involved. I wouldn't do it, but to me that isn't a major hit to a man's player cred, because I don't know if they can really be considered players from jump. Players don't ask permission, and those in that scene ask permission of each other to do what they want to do.

Cuckolding is straight weak from my perspective. To purposely wallow in the humiliation of having another man engage in sex acts with your woman right in front of you tells me that even though you may have arranged it, you can't consider yourself a hardcore player. You're saying you don't want to be in charge, or that you deserve to be punished - the same with dudes that submit to a dominatrix. Some bondage with your girl or fuckbuddy isn't necessarily a sign of some kind of weakness in your game - she's your girl, you have some level of trust, and you like to stretch your boundaries and spice things up. I'm cool with that, especially if it's you that's pushing it.

I'm good with threesomes too (two girls). If you can get the bitches to freak each other in front of you, that's hot. Even orgies with multiple folks fucking each other in close proximity is cool, so long as swords aren't getting crossed.

Post: #4

(10-12-2012 07:39 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  Nah, fuck that noise.

I'm all for gangbanging a ho. Hell I'd take a girl to a sex party for sure and watch her get plowed by a few dudes while i get sucked off by some rando. But I'm not gonna wife her or even gf her. I'm as open-minded as anyone, and there's only a few things I'm not down with.

But for committed relationships, there's gotta be respect. And I don't give a shit what anyone says about being comfortable with their sexuality or the amount of trust in the relationship blah blah blah bunch of therapist psycho-babble...If you're letting the mother of your kids, your lifelong partner get plowed by other dudes in front of you while you're tied up and you actually get off on that shit? Shouldn't be married, and you probably have some latent homosexuality tendencies. (I DO know for a fact, I read this somewhere that most guys who fantasize about their partners getting fucked by another guy have gay tendencies) It's a disrespect to her, and a disrespect for yourself.

I can imagine it'd be easy to get caught up in the moment with wife swapping. You're married, bored as fuck, want some mutual thrill of fucking a new partner, but that shit's just gonna get buried and come up in ugly ways later, unless you're some free-love hippy douchebag that doesn't care about your wife slobbering over any other dude's knob.

Bondage I'm down as fuck with, just one on one. I love dominating chicks and I'm down for girls dominating me. In the latter scenario it's usually me letting her do whatever and then finally breaking free and getting "revenge" on her and doubling down on her ass, bringing it hard.

Funny...I was listening to a Tariq Nasheed podcast today and he talked about cuckolding. He said this exact thing, in that some of these dudes are living vicariously through their women. They're watching them get smashed, and fantasizing or wishing that it was them taking the dick instead.

Post: #5

Well, for the record I think most of these activities would be detrimental to a newbie player or former beta. I think men at a beginning stage of game or just now learning how to be real men, shouldn't even tempt the hand of fate and start engaging in anything other than what will promote masculinity and confidence. However, I don't necessarily agree that a man who wants to watch his girl get plowed by another man is harboring latent homosexual desires. I think the desire to see that would be the pain/pleasure rush some get of humiliation, the sexiness of seeing your girl be naughty, and the sexiness of seeing your girl pleased and enjoying herself in a sexual manner.

Post: #6

(10-12-2012 07:40 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  Players don't ask permission

Well said

Post: #7

never. Even though i would like a relationship where i can have freedom. I would never allow a woman to disrespect me

Post: #8

(10-12-2012 08:33 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  However, I don't necessarily agree that a man who wants to watch his girl get plowed by another man is harboring latent homosexual desires. I think the desire to see that would be the pain/pleasure rush some get of humiliation, the sexiness of seeing your girl be naughty, and the sexiness of seeing your girl pleased and enjoying herself in a sexual manner.

Pleasure rush from humiliation? wtf?? Seek someone for help, your mind is sick.

Post: #9

For better or for worse, a true player is in it to win it, by any means necessary. There's no amount of moral debating here that will change that.

The rules of the game are essentially math, so you can't change them even if you wanted to.

Post: #10

In sunny beach, bulgaria I fucked some dudes wife while he watched and fapped over it while on the beach. Pretty sure he had a small dick. The wife looked like one my mates mums as well so it's really fun to tell him the story.

Me and the husband punched each others knuckles afterwards, it was the only time i got laid in sunny beach.

Post: #11

As far as cuckolding (as in another guy fucking your girl), No, jesus christ no.

However, theres really nothing more boss than making a girl fuck another guy for you, so, maybe on that angle, yeah.

Post: #12

I used to frequent swinger parties, for cuckolding, BDSM and wife swapping - it's all in good fun but I'd advise against going too deep. It can have a warping effect on how you view sexual relationships, similar to how porn warps your views of sex. With the warped perspective lizards have in North America combined with that 50 Shades of Grey book, I can see this becoming a part in many players' arsenals. Guys new to the game or with low self esteem should avoid it until they have developed a bit; it can screw you up and seems barbaric when you witness a gang bang.

However, just like taking a few pointers from porn, you can take a few moves though from BDSM into the bedroom. Light bondage, domination, spanking and blindfolds are more than enough to make girls have a taste of the dark side. I've done the ice-wax on one and tickled-whipped her another time. Threesomes are also safe territory.

Post: #13

(10-13-2012 02:06 PM)brownman Wrote:  It can have a warping effect on how you view sexual relationships

Can you explain this in detail? Thanks.

Post: #14

My boy got recruited by a couple to fuck the guys wife in front of him. It was all good and he went along with it til the husband tried to suck his dick while the wife was. He had to freak out on dude and say no so what thatdude is saying is true. My boy is a fucking weird bird though and sometimes I wonder if he's gay. He has a girl and a kid but has admitted to getting sucked by a tranny and also gets gay when he's drunk and on coke.

Post: #15

(10-16-2012 01:29 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  My boy got recruited by a couple to fuck the guys wife in front of him. It was all good and he went along with it til the husband tried to suck his dick while the wife was. He had to freak out on dude and say no so what thatdude is saying is true. My boy is a fucking weird bird though and sometimes I wonder if he's gay. He has a girl and a kid but has admitted to getting sucked by a tranny and also gets gay when he's drunk and on coke.

WHOA. Your boy has tendencies that obviously come out when he's impaired and not completely in control. On "Gigolos," one of the guys (I think it was Nick) got a call to do a cuckolding gig. He was really uncomfortable throughout because he simply didn't trust the dude. Was he going to want to join in? Was he going to flip out and try to kill me?