Post: #1

Hey, this has been happening a lot. I'll trade numbers with a girl in a club. There was attraction at the time. I text stupid followups a couple days later & leave a couple innocuous voicemails (I'm in the south so I gotta adopt the dumb pimp talk, nothing too witty: 'sup babygirl' or 'lets go to the mall doll' for texts, for voicemails [stole this from jeffy from rsd]: 'hey its me, been in and out all day. i need to fucking see you again. call me' said with a drowsy hangover voice haha).

I'm usually getting either NO reply, or they send a text, "quit tryin dude, you ain't gonna get with me!" (yeah, they use the word 'dude' LOL!) No replies I relegate to the weekly pipeline restart text, but at least with a reply - despite it being 'no' - it's a reaction. Any suggested tactics for this? Just ignore for a day or two and get back to her? Holla right back, saying get your ass to the mall? Reply 'baby im gonna wine & dine you. Im gonna buy you nice things'? hahaha

I don't think this is a case of not generating enough attraction during our first interaction which ends in me getting her number. I think this is more a byproduct of lizards natural tendency these days where unless you get a same-night pull they ain't gonna get with you, so I'm not too concerned with losing 'hand' bc this is more or less a hail mary tactic. Any suggestions?

Post: #2

(09-29-2012 12:48 PM)HiFlo Wrote:  Hey, this has been happening a lot. I'll trade numbers with a girl in a club. There was attraction at the time. I text stupid followups a couple days later & leave a couple innocuous voicemails (I'm in the south so I gotta adopt the dumb pimp talk, nothing too witty: 'sup babygirl' or 'lets go to the mall doll' for texts, for voicemails [stole this from jeffy from rsd]: 'hey its me, been in and out all day. i need to fucking see you again. call me' said with a drowsy hangover voice haha).

I'm usually getting either NO reply, or they send a text, "quit tryin dude, you ain't gonna get with me!" (yeah, they use the word 'dude' LOL!) No replies I relegate to the weekly pipeline restart text, but at least with a reply - despite it being 'no' - it's a reaction. Any suggested tactics for this? Just ignore for a day or two and get back to her? Holla right back, saying get your ass to the mall? Reply 'baby im gonna wine & dine you. Im gonna buy you nice things'? hahaha

I don't think this is a case of not generating enough attraction during our first interaction which ends in me getting her number. I think this is more a byproduct of lizards natural tendency these days where unless you get a same-night pull they ain't gonna get with you, so I'm not too concerned with losing 'hand' bc this is more or less a hail mary tactic. Any suggestions?

Whenever a chick calls you "dude", "man", "bro", or any offshoot of the like; it's time to bail.

This displays she doesn't see nor appreciate you as a man. It's almost like talking to her little brother. It is a dead end. Do not text her back to try and correct this behavior as coming off butt-hurt is just going to further prove her previously held thoughts.

From reading your previous threads and posts I am going to assume you are somewhat new to game and the manosphere. Swallowing the red pill is not similar to flipping a lightswitch on and off... I would compare it more to a dimmer dial, in which the transition from clueless to enlightened is a long and steady path. Months for most, years for some.

As I read what you write I can only sympathize the emotions that are currently embodied within. If there were succinct stages of swallowing said pill, I would deem you to be in the "Anger and Resentment" stage, meanwhile heading towards the "Analytical paralysis" stage.

After reading about women, their hamsters, hypergamy, and the other manosphere shebboliths; you have begun to resent females and what they stand for. I can tell this by you referring to these girls as your "targets". You have dehumanized them.

I believe this is the sole reason you are failing to connect with the women in question, leaving them unfulfilled and failing to instill any intimacy in your interractions.

On to the next stage (of which you are heading towards). You are using a lot of PUA lingo, which is fine; however, I have a feeling that your interractions with women are beginning to feel robotic, almost calculated (if you will).

Instead of genuinely enjoying yourself and the people around you; a constant feeling of analytics are paralyzing your ability to emphasize. The logical part of your brain is completely overriding emotional feelings. You lack balance.

Be not concerned with who has "hand" while speaking to these women. There is no hand to be had if the dealer hasn't even laid out the cards.

Demonstrating higher value? Be concerned with giving value to the conversation. Once value is established, you can give your two cents to her penny.

We have all been there brother. It's rough. When people say it's a tough pill to swallow, they aren't joking.

Once you can get past this stage, you will become happier. The hate and distrust you have towards women will slowly diminish and you will find your success rates to augment.


P.S. I could be way off on this post, delete it if need be. Everytime I see a post from you; it reminds me of a dark place in which I used to be. It was until I read about the "stages of unplugging" that I understood. I can dig that up for you if you'd like. But for now, sit back, relax, and begin to understand what's going on around you. Imbibe the lessons that some of the more advanced guys on this forum say. Apply the applications and learn. It's like graduating high school and having to start over in kindergarten again due to a faulty curriculum.

Wishin' you the best,
-Chubby

Post: #3

(09-29-2012 01:45 PM)Cruisen_Chubby Wrote:  Whenever a chick calls you "dude", "man", "bro", or any offshoot of the like; it's time to bail.

This displays she doesn't see nor appreciate you as a man. It's almost like talking to her little brother. It is a dead end. Do not text her back to try and correct this behavior as coming off butt-hurt is just going to further prove her previously held thoughts.

This ^^^ . When a girl talks to a guy like that, she is showing him disrespect. You're not going to change her her mind, just drop her.

[stole this from jeffy from rsd]: 'hey its me, been in and out all day. i need to fucking see you again. call me' said with a drowsy hangover voice haha).

That is terrible. Don't tell a girl-especially a girl you've just met-that you "need" anything from her. Neediness kills a girl's attraction faster than anything else.

Post: #4

I had a similar situation recently when a girl unprovoked (i just invited her over) texts me shes not gonna sleep with me right away and is looking for something serious.. Of course i know what they say and do is a different issue.. but was curious how you guys respond to this resistance when its via text or phone call.... This is after you've met with them once before and then when you suggest a meetup they come out of the gates with this.

1) Just play stupid? (What do you mean?)... then act otherwise??
2) Ignore what they say?
3) Joke with them about it and brush it off?

Post: #5

If you think the bang/potential relationship is worth a little effort, I say dismiss and plow forward. Otherwise cut contact and move to the next girl.

Post: #6

(09-29-2012 12:48 PM)HiFlo Wrote:  Hey, this has been happening a lot. I'll trade numbers with a girl in a club. There was attraction at the time. I text stupid followups a couple days later & leave a couple innocuous voicemails (I'm in the south so I gotta adopt the dumb pimp talk, nothing too witty: 'sup babygirl' or 'lets go to the mall doll' for texts, for voicemails [stole this from jeffy from rsd]: 'hey its me, been in and out all day. i need to fucking see you again. call me' said with a drowsy hangover voice haha).

I'm usually getting either NO reply, or they send a text, "quit tryin dude, you ain't gonna get with me!" (yeah, they use the word 'dude' LOL!) No replies I relegate to the weekly pipeline restart text, but at least with a reply - despite it being 'no' - it's a reaction. Any suggested tactics for this? Just ignore for a day or two and get back to her? Holla right back, saying get your ass to the mall? Reply 'baby im gonna wine & dine you. Im gonna buy you nice things'? hahaha

I don't think this is a case of not generating enough attraction during our first interaction which ends in me getting her number. I think this is more a byproduct of lizards natural tendency these days where unless you get a same-night pull they ain't gonna get with you, so I'm not too concerned with losing 'hand' bc this is more or less a hail mary tactic. Any suggestions?

You have a pretty good number of tries down using those follow ups. Try to change it up into something classical like

Quote:Hey circus girl nice meeting you the other nite ~HiFlo

See if that takes you anywhere. Of course, the real problem might be this:

Quote: trade numbers with a girl in a club

Agreed on the 'dude' point mentioned earlier.

Post: #7

As with the other "neat" thread I'd just reply LOL, and see if she moves on that. Depending on the vibe I have with the girl I might reply "as far as I'm concerned I'm giving you a mercyfuck".

If she really wasn't interested she would just ignore you. However textning is a minefield and one mistake can spell doom. Don't get into prolonged text-marathons.

Post: #8

Texting used to be one of my BIG sticking points till I read Roosh's texting guide:

http://www.bangpickupguide.com/misc/text...rooshv.pdf

I realized I was shooting my own self in the foot for a very long time by trying to build attraction/act funny over texts.

Post: #9

My advice would be to buy a pocket pussy and stop chasing women

Post: #10

(10-04-2012 01:06 PM)blackglasses Wrote:  My advice would be to buy a pocket pussy and stop chasing women

This.

Roosh, you can stop blogging and shut down the forum now.

Post: #11

Recently, a girl was giving me some similar type shit over text. I replied..

"ooh, i like your attitude, you are feisty"
"you're cute when you get upset"

The next day I saw her and she said..."you're funny". Then she texted me later and wanted to go jogging. I think she became attracted to me when she saw that I wasn't going to take any of her little bullshit games.

Post: #12

(09-29-2012 12:48 PM)HiFlo Wrote:  Hey, this has been happening a lot. I'll trade numbers with a girl in a club. There was attraction at the time. I text stupid followups a couple days later & leave a couple innocuous voicemails (I'm in the south so I gotta adopt the dumb pimp talk, nothing too witty: 'sup babygirl' or 'lets go to the mall doll' for texts, for voicemails [stole this from jeffy from rsd]: 'hey its me, been in and out all day. i need to fucking see you again. call me' said with a drowsy hangover voice haha).

I would switch these up and try something different. Maybe it is game/location differences, but both of these made me cringe. Since you say it has been happening a lot with these lines, switch them up to something else, and see if that works.

If it doesn't, maybe you are not building as much attraction as you thought, and that could be the problem.

When I text a girl, I generally try to reference something from the night we met. I.E. the other night I was gaming this girl, being super aggressive, and making her blush like crazy. Her friend came over and grabbed her around the neck, making a joke about how she likes to be choked during sex. So I made fun of her about it a bit that night, turning it into a little inside joke.

I texted her a few days later and said something like "Your neck isn't bruised from being choked the other night, is it?"

Of course, bitch didn't hit me back lol, but that's an example of how I play it.

If a girl likes to dance, I'll start calling her dancin girl throughout the night or something. Then when I hit her up, I'll text "Hey dancin girl, wear those feet out yet?" or something like that. Usually gets a good response, and then I keep it playful from there. After she texts back I'll write something like "Hope those feet are not too sore to walk over to my house tonight. I can give you a piggyback ride if you need it." or some dumb shit like that.

Post: #13

hey man, im using those lines with redneck girls. Redneck game is a subcategory unto itself They are suspicious of anyone who dont talk like a redneck yo

Post: #14

(09-29-2012 12:48 PM)HiFlo Wrote:  I text stupid followups a couple days later & leave a couple innocuous voicemails (I'm in the south so I gotta adopt the dumb pimp talk, nothing too witty: 'sup babygirl' or 'lets go to the mall doll' for texts, for voicemails [stole this from jeffy from rsd]: 'hey its me, been in and out all day. i need to fucking see you again. call me' said with a drowsy hangover voice haha).

Unless there was a 'doll' or 'babygirl' reference the night you met her, I can clearly see why this is failing.

Post: #15

(10-07-2012 03:38 AM)FretDancer Wrote:  

(09-29-2012 12:48 PM)HiFlo Wrote:  I text stupid followups a couple days later & leave a couple innocuous voicemails (I'm in the south so I gotta adopt the dumb pimp talk, nothing too witty: 'sup babygirl' or 'lets go to the mall doll' for texts, for voicemails [stole this from jeffy from rsd]: 'hey its me, been in and out all day. i need to fucking see you again. call me' said with a drowsy hangover voice haha).

Unless there was a 'doll' or 'babygirl' reference the night you met her, I can clearly see why this is failing.

This!

Seriously, dumb pimp talk? red neck talk?
One of the oldest rules of the game is to stand out. So drop the thing that everyelse is doing.