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France is set to ban the words "mother" and "father" from all official documents under controversial plans to legalise gay marriage.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...ments.html

"[France] plans to expunge the words “mother” and “father” from all legal documents, reports the Telegraph. The words would be replaced by “parents” in all instances so as not to discriminate against same-sex couples."

http://www.newser.com/story/154702/franc...cords.html

Post: #2

It seems things just keep getting more ridiculously fucked up over there. Thank god I never really had any interest in France.

Post: #3

Europe is going straight to hell, isn't it?


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Post: #4

Why do they hate the nuclear family?

Post: #5

(09-28-2012 05:26 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Why do they hate the nuclear family?

Iran's nuclear program? Hey, someone had to make that lame joke and sadly, it was my turn.

Post: #6

They hate the nuclear family for a number of reasons: the two main ones are:

1. "traditional values" and
2. the purpose of the nuclear family as a social construct.

Let's address the first: the repository for all traditional values: religion, morality, world view, preferences, tastes, ideologies, and habits that most people have come from the nuclear unit. The problem is that many of these moral, religion, tastes, culture, etc. conflict with what the "elites" or "illuminati" believe is "best" for humanity.

In order to inculcate the "proper" values easily (more easily) into people - kids from an early age, it is critical to destroy the nuclear family as a concept and in reality. Hence: the attempts to destroy the requirements of the nuclear family by propagating the following ideas:

1. Men and Women are the same and equal: (NOT)
2. Heterosexual relations and Homosexual relations are the same: there is no difference - "just preferences": (NOT)
3. A "family" is whatever you want it to be: it could be 2 dykes and kids, 2 fags and kids, whatever you like: it not just a female mother, male father and kids: (NOT)
4. Women who stay home and raise the kids i. e. pass on nuclear family values to kids are "oppressed"; Women who go to work and allow the state through public schools to inculcate state values into their children are "empowered" and true feminists. (NOT)
5. The Man: the protector of the family from all threats: physical, cultural, and ideological, must be removed from the home at all costs. Remove the male and the women and children are easy pickings for the state/elites to impose whatever deviancy and new values they want: i.e. the modern Negro American family ....
-males removed and marginalized by:

-overzealous criminal justice and penal system
-economically emasculated/shut out of labor force that favors women
-discriminatory child support/alimony/custody/visitation laws
-Ridiculous "Domestic Violence " laws which effectively neuter that males ability to protect and regulate his home from threats both physical, cultral, and ideological.

Thus, the nuclear family has to go - ......in order for the new values to be inculcated into people.

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Now let's address the second: "the purpose of the nuclear as a social construct"

How did the nuclear family arise in the first place ?
-man bangs female: man impregnates female: female is carrying male's progeny, but is physically disabled during pregnancy and vulnerable from predators, other tribes, the elements, until the child is viable and can help fend for itself: (ages 3-6).: Because of this, man decides to stick around to at least secure his progeny to viability. Hence: the nuclear "family". Together the female and progeny are better protected while he can go after resources: hunt, scavenge, steal i.e. WAR..from lesser protected men, children, females.

Groups of FAMILIES decide to stick together ( and they are often related by blood) for better protection against other tribes, predators, and the elements, AND, hunt, scavenge, steal i.e WAR, resources from families not grouped, unattached females, kids, males or weak groupings of the aforementioned.Hence CLANS/TRIBES.

Groups of CLANS/TRIBES decide to stick together (often related by blood- but more extended)
for better protection against other tribes, clans, predators, elements AND, hunt, scavenge, steal i.e WAR - resources from clans not grouped, families not grouped into clans, men,women, and children not in families, or weak grouping of the aforementioned
Hence NATIONS.

In Essence, the nuclear family is a social unit formed under the pressures of WAR, the threat of WAR, and the need to WAR. Strong male hunter/warrior out front protecting the female (producer of progeny) and progeny while inculcating and fostering in the unit the values that best increase odds of survival in a hostile world.

But suppose there is a world without WAR. Where WAR is obsolete and unnecessary (more or less). Where POWER will be held by an elite and that power will be so complete and total that there could be NO real resistance to it - power made complete and total by:

1. - 24 hour surveillance: phone, internet, household appliances, camera everywhere, drones in the sky permanently, bug/mosquito size drones everywhere, electronic money - i.e. permanently monitored by the authorities: what you have, what you are spending it on etc, and that money is only accessible by a chip implanted on your person - so that it could be turned off if ever you decide to become a "problem" i.e. WARRIOR

2. POWER made total and complete by: - Controlled Food that is genetically modified to have less nutrients - only by a smidge: enough to keep you alive and functioning, but not at optimal levels of brain and body functioning - not enough to be a WARRIOR.

3. POWER made total and complete by: filling your brain and pysche with damaging and confusing images,sounds: MUSIC (lady GAGA/most RAP) and TV/MOVIES( The Kardashians/Jerry Springer/Real Housewives etc.), and values that confuse you and your family so that you could never have the clarity of thought and purpose to be a WARRIOR.

4. POWER made total and complete by: A police and penal/legal apparatus that effectively exstinguishes the notion of personal freedom i.e. making everything you do a crime. - no freedom to be a WARRIOR.

5.POWER made total and complete by: making all ways you make a living or "hunt" dependent upon the graces of the "elite" - through their control of government: job qualifications, economy controlled by government or big business controlled by elite, control of the currency/banks, interest rates, taxes. - so that you could never effectively marshal the resources to be a WARRIOR against the threats.....

6. POWER made total and complete by: the ability to control, affect, effect, influence the weather - create, strengthen,weaken, water flows, irrigation, crops, earthquakes, tsunamis, rainfall, etc. - to damage any enemie's economy through the weather OR by the ability to create and spread new and hard to cure diseases for which humans have no immunity or cure (except the elite) and couldn't develop to fight against i.e. NO WARRIORS

In such a world, WAR - as we know it would be obsolete. And if WAR is obsolete then so is the nuclear family.........it would serve no purpose other than to cause mischief -i.e. create WARRIORS - or perpetuate WARRIOR ideology - both of which would be a threat to such a TOTALITARIAN GLOBAL SYSTEM controlled by a tiny elite - said system otherwise known as the NEW WORLD ORDER.

Hence, the NUCLEAR FAMILY has to go the way of the dodo bird.

Post: #8

(09-28-2012 05:24 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Europe is going straight to hell, isn't it?


Next up:

Bestiality
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Incest

Well, that does it... Eastern Bloc here I come.
Hey Roosh, that book deal you got going available in Europe?

Not even joking

Post: #9

So...if you go to Day care or pimary school, you will see a bunch of policemen arresting people's children because they said 'mommy' and 'daddy'? What if gay people's children say 'father' or 'mom'?

Why are they trying not to hurt people's feelings? It won't work. In the end, everyone is going to let their inner barbarian come out and they will see what hurting people really means.

Post: #10

(09-29-2012 12:06 PM)Andreas Wrote:  So...if you go to Day care or pimary school, you will see a bunch of policemen arresting people's children because they said 'mommy' and 'daddy'? What if gay people's children say 'father' or 'mom'?

Why are they trying not to hurt people's feelings? It won't work. In the end, everyone is going to let their inner barbarian come out and they will see what hurting people really means.

Go and Read "BRAVE NEW WORLD" - by Aldous Huxley

...in it the words "mother" and "father" are curse words....

to ask someone " who's your mother ?" is the equivalent of saying "fuck you".

The plan is in the future for there not to be any nuclear family.

i.e. Father-Daughter dances have to be banned because it discriminates.....

Post: #11

I commend France for this, and I say that in all seriousness. They are taking the ethos of homosexual union to its logical conclusion - if sapphists and sodomites are to have their own, equivalent form of marriage, the terms 'mother' and 'father' are clearly outdated.

I'm impressed that the French are doing this already; in America, we'd first institute 'gay marriage,' but this sort of move would be struck down as 'too PC.' Instead, it would happen five years later, after 'gay marriage' is taken for granted as normal and healthy.

Americans and Britons willfully ignore the logical implications of positions like 'gay marriage' or feminism. A few radical leftists will make clear the point of these policies among themselves, or decades later, such as how feminism frees women to be whores. Them aside, when anyone takes a principle to its natural conclusion, the Anglo castigates them as radicals and 'too-PC.' The Anglo is a fool, because he has already acceded to the original principle, and he must now reap his due rewards.

And rarely will you see the Anglo legitimately question his prior belief, eg that feminism destroys the things he holds dear in women, and opt to discard feminism entirely. No, he'll try to find a "third way" that somehow maintains feminism but keeps women from becoming whores. He tries to find some method that balances the conflict of visions. This third way never materializes, and he just ends up capitulating to the radicals again and again, as they open up new fronts and shift the frame of the debate.

In short, the issue was decided not by this latest proclamation, but by the endorsement of 'gay marriage;' this is just the natural result. If you really understood 'gay marriage,' you'd realize this really isn't making things much worse, because it was implicit already.

Imagine if someone bought tickets to a boxing match, and then went and got upset as soon as the fighters started boxing each other. You'd think they were a retard - that's the nature of the game, it's what you signed up for when you bought the tickets. Same for gay marriage - if you support it, and then start yelling about how the roles of mother and father are now being diminished - well, that was kind of inescapable.

Post: #12

Good point Basilransom,

Of course, the French are allowed to be more openly communistic and open about their social engineering -

In the Anglo World, people are still suspicious of excessive government power so in order to social engineer, you have to do - surrepticiously- bit by bit - pretending that you are doing something else.

Post: #13

(09-28-2012 05:26 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Why do they hate the nuclear family?

Because they see it as a competing institution (i.e. family power competes with State power). Without any checks and balances the State will always try to "steal" any power away from other institutions. It's just what they do. In the end they are always checked. If not by common sense, then by revolution.

In the first few decades of Israel's existence, for example, their Kibbutz's had a hippy commune type policy of children being raised by, and spending most of their time with, people other than their parents. This approach was generally seen as a big failure, and even a mostly socialist state had to back off their plans of a workers paradise if they anted to keep the peace.

Post: #14

This is clearly not going to work.