Post: #1

Ok, so, I feel really weird posting this, but... I would appreciate some tips from you guys on general appearance. I've never really paid much attention to it, I just kind of go for what is comfortable, be it clothes, or over all style. This is a picture of me on a normal day... what should I fix?

Post: #2

The first thing I notice is that your young...but totally out of shape..if I notice this...chicks will notice too.....

the best thing about you is that you are young...take advantage of that....pickup is a young mans game.....

Pussy paradise is when your young....with that lose weight and start working out...get a gym membership.....girls can tell when your in shape...as you can tell when a girl has a nice body...get it....get with the program...

if you won't work out...it means your lazy....and looking for a short cut...being in shape is the best self improvement...game can only take you so far.....

Post: #3

(09-27-2012 02:38 AM)jerome Wrote:  The first thing I notice is that your young...but totally out of shape..if I notice this...chicks will notice too.....

the best thing about you is that you are young...take advantage of that....pickup is a young mans game.....

Pussy paradise is when your young....with that lose weight and start working out...get a gym membership.....girls can tell when your in shape...as you can tell when a girl has a nice body...get it....get with the program...

if you won't work out...it means your lazy....and looking for a short cut...being in shape is the best self improvement...game can only take you so far.....

already working on weight, lost 15 lbs since this picture was taken.

Post: #4

I am tempted to give you style advice, but I won't without knowing more about where you live. All men should become familiar with classic, timeless men's style, but maybe the girls where you live go for the Ed Hardy/Affliction graphic tee/goofy designer jeans look (I don't know if that's your look or not, but a lot of the kids seem to go for it).

One thing that I can say with authority is that you should work on incongruence. You've got a baby-face, nice guy look about you. If you actually are a nice guy, the girls are probably eating you alive. You should definitely work to cultivate a bit of an edge about you. Get yourself a reputation. The key is not to be the try-too-hard kind of asshole. Roissy has a good post on the uncaring asshole vs. the caring asshole. Google it and read it.

Work on your posture as well. Lose the goofy grin, take your hands out of your pockets, stand up straight, etc. When you talk to girls, hold eye contact especially when you're the one talking. You can let your eyes wander a bit when she's talking, especially if she's not saying anything interesting. When you're talking though, make sure you have her attention. If you can't get it, just stop talking and go do something else. Women notice when you're not like every other herb that she can wrap around her finger.

Post: #5

Lets work on the sum package of what your image conveys. Not only can you improve your physique, but you can work on style, body language and congruency. Each factor can help build a more congruent image, or it can harm it. Some thoughts:

- Does the redbull shirt mean you are the kind of personality who is a daredevil constantly wired on adrenaline, even in a coffee shop? Or is it a personality of daredevil extremes at some time, but so hyper chill on most days you kinda float along, unaffected by shit?

-Your physical pose is congruent with the post: kinda nervous, hesitant, and wanting validation. How do i judge that? The slight smile, body directly facing me, hand partially in pocket. Try this:
http://strangexreality.deviantart.com/ar...-291815090
Pose like this model, and cock your head back. Do it like a g. Take another photo.

- back to congruency, should your body say "motherfuckers im wild and crazy now, yeeeeaaaaahhhhhh" or should it say "damn son, chill the fuck out. Not cool."

-remember tht chicks spent hours in front of a mirror and their greatest achievement as a sex was the sorority lean, hand on hip, cleavage pose. They have no hesitation to waste all kinds of time perfecting their body language. Why. So it comes naturally.

Edit: just saw the above post. Smart minds think alike. As an experiment at your age, every photo you take you shoud be thinking "fuck you!" or "you like my bitches?"

Post: #6

Have you ever thought about hiring a personal trainer?

I specialize is young men like yourself. PM me if you'd like a little advice and/or pictures of myself and past clients.

P.S. Roosh i'm not spamming your forum for services...But I am here to help.

Post: #7

Damn yo I used to have the same body as you, it doesn't look like ive lost a ton of weight but I've replaced a lot of the fat with a lot of muscle by squatting heavy and eating clean. Don't worry though I was still getting laid so get motivation from inside rather than the extrinsic motivation of chicks digging your physique.

You do look young, but set yourself apart from the rest of the guys your age: be confident, decisive, rely on no one to have fun, don't get stupid drunk, have a dynamic personality that is congruent with your dress
As for dress: start wearing plain tshirts , dark jeans nice sneakers. I don't know where you live, but around me if you try to dress with timeless men's style people think you're weird unless you're on the hipster side of things.

Either way you have to fit in with your age group, but you can't be confined by it.

Post: #8

No tips unless theres a sign that says 'RVF' in the picture. Show us a picture of you out in the town, rather than in your house.

Had to resist saying tits or gtfo.

Post: #9

its kind of cool to see all the advice match up to stuff I've never heard before about myself, its been pretty helpful so far. A lot of you guys are asking where I am living for style choices I currently live in the Seattle area. As for the posture, this was just a random ass picture that someone asked for because they hadnt seen me in a while. The red bull shirt is from an event i did photography for, so it diesnt so much mean i do extremem sports, or drin a hell of a lot of it (i drink more nos, or monster). Other than that you guys, keep en coming. Like i said, working on weight, 15 lbs are gine since that picture was taken about a month ago.

Post: #10

Do a shit ton of cardio and drop as much weight as you can. Cut your caloric intake. You'll probably end up going to bed hungry some nights. Change up your diet, high in protein, cut out carbs completely. Start lifting, and get yourself on a schedule so you can record your gains. This is a long process and you're probably not going to get that tapered "V" look for a year or so unless you really hustle. Get a haircut. Go somewhere where you can trust their professional judgment and ask them what you think would look best on you. STOP WEARING SHORTS. Get some nice jeans, and khakis. You're living in a colder climate so this is the perfect opportunity to experiment with some layering of shirts and jackets. If you don't know what that is check out the style thread using the search feature. Giovonny has a similar style to me and you can check out his posts on style as well.

Post: #11

As well as doing everything the guys have been saying, id pick a bodypart, ideally your biceps, that you specialise on. This isnt to mean you neglect the rest of the body. Just gives you something to work extra hard on, youl see results faster and people will notice and likely comment on it. I did this with my shoulders, in school. I was like the anorexic dude with big shoulders. I actually got stretch marks from them growing to fast.

But everytime i took my top off they nearly always get commented on. And it feels good.

Post: #12

by the way, i'll try to get you guys an updated pic tonight, and i'll see what I can do about the "posing" you guys are talking about, as a photographer, i should be able to pull this off, but we'll see.

Post: #13

(09-27-2012 01:01 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  Do a shit ton of cardio and drop as much weight as you can. Cut your caloric intake. You'll probably end up going to bed hungry some nights. Change up your diet, high in protein, cut out carbs completely. Start lifting, and get yourself on a schedule so you can record your gains. This is a long process and you're probably not going to get that tapered "V" look for a year or so unless you really hustle. Get a haircut. Go somewhere where you can trust their professional judgment and ask them what you think would look best on you. STOP WEARING SHORTS. Get some nice jeans, and khakis. You're living in a colder climate so this is the perfect opportunity to experiment with some layering of shirts and jackets. If you don't know what that is check out the style thread using the search feature. Giovonny has a similar style to me and you can check out his posts on style as well.

Haha, colder is relative. I'm originally from New Brunswick Canada where I'm used to -20 degrees average in the winter, so, when I come out here, and we're in the 10's and 20's in fall (celcius by the way), I would die in jeans. I have been working on my caloric intake, that's actually how I lost the weight. I have a hair cut, I don't plan on letting it grow long again. Winter is generally when i look the best though because yeah, I get to wear jeans then haha. Thanks, I'll check it out, do you have a link?

Post: #14

(09-27-2012 01:10 PM)Rick91 Wrote:  As well as doing everything the guys have been saying, id pick a bodypart, ideally your biceps, that you specialise on. This isnt to mean you neglect the rest of the body. Just gives you something to work extra hard on, youl see results faster and people will notice and likely comment on it. I did this with my shoulders, in school. I was like the anorexic dude with big shoulders. I actually got stretch marks from them growing to fast.

But everytime i took my top off they nearly always get commented on. And it feels good.

Well, pick a part to tone has technically already been done without me really trying. I inexplicably have really strong legs, and they are really well toned. I can do 2 sets of 15 reps of 650 lbs on the leg press without too much of an issue. I think it's from when I used to mountain bike, but i'm not sure because I never really worked them out. I however have next to no upper body strength, so, I'd like to work on arms/pecs because they're the 2 areas I think are making me look the worse, because, believe it or not, my stomach is flat. It's not as in as I'd like it to be, but it is still flat, i have no bulge, which helps add to the illusion that I'm in shape.... but only from the side. Thanks for the tip though, I never thought about just working on one section, it makes sense, and I will definitely use it.

Post: #15

You gotta lose weight dude! You are too young to be fat!

Eat cleaner food. Cut out the excess sugar and carbs!

That is the most important thing. Clothes are the easy part.

Post: #16

Kudos for doing this, it takes a lot of guts.

I can't see your feet, but i get the feeling from your outfit that you wear flops?
if so, not acceptable anywhere but the beach or your house. Buy some cools sneakers, i like addidas, and for your age high tops would be cool.

Post: #17

I actually like your shirt and shorts. As a college kid, you can pull off that look and still be successful. Most of the guys in college who are getting laid dress like that.

Just don't dress like that in your 30's like I was until WestCoast helped my style.

Post: #18

Biggest thing you can change is your body. http://stronglifts.com/

Then your haircut.

Then your style. http://www.kinowear.com/blog/science-of-style-stage-1

Sorry, no link for the haircut, I shave my head lol.

Post: #19

Lose weight. that's all I can see. don't worry about your hair cut. Looks fine too me.

Once you get in shape, I think you will look good in Blazer, t-shirts inside, slim chino, canvas shoes (I say LA style)

Post: #20

Took balls to put yourself out there and post this. You have the perfect attitude for game, so do what these guys are saying reguarding weight, find a style thats yours and rock it, and you are well on your way my friend.

This is a group of guys who know whats goin on, so ask if you need anything else. Also, update this thread in a couple months and let us know how your doing.

Post: #21

That 'model' pose made me spit my beer out

(09-27-2012 03:26 AM)Grit Wrote:  Lets work on the sum package of what your image conveys. Not only can you improve your physique, but you can work on style, body language and congruency. Each factor can help build a more congruent image, or it can harm it. Some thoughts:

- Does the redbull shirt mean you are the kind of personality who is a daredevil constantly wired on adrenaline, even in a coffee shop? Or is it a personality of daredevil extremes at some time, but so hyper chill on most days you kinda float along, unaffected by shit?

-Your physical pose is congruent with the post: kinda nervous, hesitant, and wanting validation. How do i judge that? The slight smile, body directly facing me, hand partially in pocket. Try this:
http://strangexreality.deviantart.com/ar...-291815090
Pose like this model, and cock your head back. Do it like a g. Take another photo.

- back to congruency, should your body say "motherfuckers im wild and crazy now, yeeeeaaaaahhhhhh" or should it say "damn son, chill the fuck out. Not cool."

-remember tht chicks spent hours in front of a mirror and their greatest achievement as a sex was the sorority lean, hand on hip, cleavage pose. They have no hesitation to waste all kinds of time perfecting their body language. Why. So it comes naturally.

Edit: just saw the above post. Smart minds think alike. As an experiment at your age, every photo you take you shoud be thinking "fuck you!" or "you like my bitches?"

Post: #22

Can't wait to see the OP pose a similar picture in a few months, looking all G.

Post: #23

Your shirt is too busy to be wearing those plaid shorts. One or the other needs to be solid.

It looks like you have skin issues. Start flossing your teeth, that will get rid of a lot of your acne. That bacteria in your mouth is extremely toxic.

As other's have said you need to get fit, training will also help with your complexion. I don't know what kind of shoes you're wearing but some converse with black no see socks are a solid choice.

I would advise against posting your photo on this forum. As Roosh will undoubtedly become more well known femicunts will be using anything you say or do against you in their own online mediums.

Post: #24

Buy some new towels. You are not selling just yourself, you have to sell everything. Trust me, girls notice things like that.

Post: #25

(09-27-2012 03:52 PM)jdelisi Wrote:  Kudos for doing this, it takes a lot of guts.

I can't see your feet, but i get the feeling from your outfit that you wear flops?
if so, not acceptable anywhere but the beach or your house. Buy some cools sneakers, i like addidas, and for your age high tops would be cool.

it depends in where I'm going, i have a pair of Nike sneakers, not quite sure what they are, and depending in whether im feeling it or not, i will wear my racing shoes. they are black so they stay discreet, and theyre comfortable as rll, im rarely in flip flops