Post: #26

(09-18-2012 09:06 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  I'm of the belief that you cannot convince everyone with logic, especially people who consistently ignore reality. Even if they did accept your position, they won't change their behavior.

That's why you need to shame them with their most serious vice, their fatness. Seriously, just call them fat. Avoiding shame works as a damn good incentive for them to get to the gym.

It's not exactly logic that Durangotang advocates. It's logic with a rhetorical shiv.

Few people wish to be considered ignorant, lazy, or an addict.

He's not arguing against being fat - he's arguing against being ignorant, lazy, and an addict.

The people who cling to their fatness despite the arguments presented. Then it is just a matter of handing them the rope and watching as they hang themselves with it.

Wald

Post: #27

The easiest way to destroy is to leave the country as soon as you're able - the more capable people leave, the less of them are left, and eventually the system comes crashing down as there are less and less capable people left to take care of it, and fat people will be forced to either vanish or adapt. Oh wait...

Post: #28

(09-18-2012 06:46 PM)SVK Wrote:  Of course obesity it is genetic! Americans (and Anglosphere in general) are fat because large percentage of this nation carries the fat gene. Some other countries (e.g Japan or France) have much lower occurrence of this gene in the population. Also, due to still unclear reasons the fat gene is much more prevalent now than 50 years ago. There are theories that the weightloss and fitness industry conspired to develop a virus that mutates DNA of the American population to make the fat gene much more common. If you carry a fat gene no amount of exercise or diet is going to help you at all, it will only make you more sick if you try. Making fun of fat people is like making fun of the disabled, and advising them to lose weight is like advising a legless man to grow legs. Fat shaming should be illegal, it is worse than racism, sexism, chauvinism, misogyny and antifeminism combined. Making fun of fat people or even just suggesting that they should lose weight is hate speech of the worst kind. Big women were considered beautiful throughout the history, just look at Venus of Willendorf or paintings of Rubens. Only in recent years have men been brainwashed by the massmedia to be unnaturally attracted to emaciated anorexic 'models' like Jessica Simpson.

Post: #29

(09-18-2012 03:47 PM)durangotang Wrote:  I have been reading A History of Western Philosophy, and so have been pondering virtues and vices. Which leads me to this post. If you find yourself in a situation conversing with a fat apologist or someone promoting fat acceptance, just respond with the following:

"Since when were ignorance, laziness and addiction virtues in our society?"

Fat people are fat (barring the extreme outliers who have thyroid cancer), because they are a combination of these three things.

Ignorance:
They lack an adequate knowledge of nutrition.

Laziness:
They have some knowledge about what to do, but are too lazy to act upon it by eating correctly or exercising.

Addiction:
Many people are addicted to the short term "sugar high" and temporary satisfaction they experience from filling their stomachs. This is an actual physical addiction, brain chemistry and all.

All vices. There is no way to refute the above statement. Occasionally, you may get someone who will claim it is genetic - to which you can call them ignorant.

Enjoy.

Good in theory- but you need to remember logic tends not to work with PC ideologues because they view the world based on feelings, not facts. They're already trying to rationalize fat /= unhealthy with the "health at any size" bullshit.

Nevertheless, it's worth testing.

(09-19-2012 06:56 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  I'm surprised that the corn subsidy isn't a bigger issue in the US. A small group of corn farmers are being paid to destroy America, and the export of cheap corn syrup means that it's easier to get obese all over the world now - the United States is exporting obesity.

It's the biggest factor, no doubt. Some people do have genes that make them have a propensity for being fat but the shitty environment of the corn subsidies basically gives them no choice.

Post: #30

I opened up the paper this morning and saw a double page advertising spread from a local clothing chain featuring overweight, post-wall models.

The text:

"We believe that every body is beautiful, whether pear-shaped, skinny, voluptuous, petite, statuesque or small. It's your body. It's your life's work and you should wear it with pride."

They say this, then show only fat models.

They say this, then airbrush all of their skin into flawless, unblemished perfection.

The next page is a spread of their male clothing: the men are muscular.

Women logic. *shrug*

Post: #31

(09-19-2012 06:56 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 05:31 AM)billy Wrote:  If you take Americans and their shitty diets out of the equation then there is plenty of evidence to suggest that fat is primarily genetic. There are specific genes that control how you react to different foods and people with the worst combination of these will always find it almost impossible to keep body fat low.

I'm convinced that the engine running the world-wide increase in obesity is the United States corn subisdy.

Because the USA is paying so much to subsidise corn production, the USA is filled with cheap corn. Farmers are selling it for less than it takes to produce, because once sold they get a generous payout from the US government.

Because of the cheap corn, there is plenty of cheap dextrose syrup.

Because of the cheapness of dextrose syrup, it's being used as filler in everything from coca-cola to mcdonald's burgers.

Because corn syrup is high in calories, the amount of calories in a typical american meal has skyrocketed.

Because of that, there is obesity, which ironically has such a high cost to the US economy that slowly but surely the tax base will be eroded because fat people are not productive AND they are the ones who demand the most subsidised health care. The cost of obesity to the US health care system is now overtaking to cost of smoking.

The US government is in effect funding its own destruction through corn subsidies. The US may as well hand each citizen a pack of cigarettes, it will still benefit a minority economic grouping as do as much damage to health.

Remove corn syrup,and even though people will still overeat, they will not get nearly as fat because the calorie content of feed will drop.

I'm surprised that the corn subsidy isn't a bigger issue in the US. A small group of corn farmers are being paid to destroy America, and the export of cheap corn syrup means that it's easier to get obese all over the world now - the United States is exporting obesity.

This. Anecdotally, it is a common observation that although there are plenty of fat beer-gutted bastards all over the world, American tree-leg type obesity just looks different, as if it's more than simple overeating.

Post: #32

The only way to completely destroy fat acceptance is to have a zombie apocalypse. If any of you have seen Zombieland, the first scene was about how the first people to die were the fatties. Natural Selection at its finest...or would that be along the lines of Unnatural Selection?

So, all we have to do is wait for the end of the world and we're all set.

Post: #33

"Obesity should be fat people's problem – not everyone's problem"

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesd...s-problem/

Quote:I think the fat problem represents as strong an argument as there has ever been for simultaneously shrinking the size of the state and encouraging people to take responsibility for their lives by restoring the lost connection in our culture between cause and effect.

Here's how that process of cause and effect should work with obesity: you eat too much, you get fat; your food bills rise to accommodate your expanding girth; so too does the cost of your health insurance, both to cover the extra cost of your "bariatric" specialist treatment and also because you are that much more likely than a thinner, fitter person to require medical care; also, people will hate sitting next to you on aeroplanes, only fellow fatties (or the odd thin person, maybe, with a bear fetish) will want to have sex with you, you will probably smell more and die younger. In a free country you will, of course, remain as free to get as fat as you like. But there will be consequences for your actions in the form of mild social opprobrium, increased financial penalties and so on. Thus, without any meddling or hectoring or needless expenditure from the Nanny State, fat people will be encouraged to get thinner because they will find it in their best interests to do so.

What our current socialised healthcare system does, unfortunately, is to remove this vital connection between cause and effect. Not only are the obese cushioned from the financial consequences of their wanton self-indulgence but they inhabit a culture so in thrall to the idea of victimhood, so fearful of "judgementalism" and so wary of causing offence that it doesn't even dare hint that there might be a problem with being fat.

Post: #34

(10-21-2013 12:18 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(10-21-2013 12:13 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I was on an airplane recently and a 60 something fat couple got on the plane. Everyone tensed up thinking they would have to sit next to them. Fortunately there were enough seats on the plane where they got a whole row to themselves, with an empty middle seat. I observed them in flight. They both pulled out their own large bag of potato chips and ate them on the flight. I'm not talking the little bags you might get with a lunch, I'm talking large family sized bags of Lays , we're talking over a thousand calories each. Washed down with the Cokes they ordered. Disgusting gluttony. I can't imagine how shitty I would feel eating all that grease and empty calories.

I always wig out. Usually they are the last ones on and all are left are middle seats...fuck...

I was on a flight from Norfolk to Charlotte and this whale of a man came through. you know the kind with the bad skin and the labored breathing. so he comes and parks it all the while my worst fear is that this dude is going to fart on me mid flight and I'm going to wig out on this guy 30,000 ft in the air. luckily a flight attendant noticed that I was struggling to remain in my seat(half my body was in the aisle and this fat ass hole was sitting there not even making an effort) so the flight attendant moved me to my own private row which was cool but then I wondered as fat body was left with his own private row, how often does weighing 360+ pounds work out to his advantage. That a man is so fat he can just involuntarily create better seats on an airplane because he takes up 1.75 seats. At an amusement park does he get front of the line privilege because supporting his body weight in the line might cause him physical stress?

Post: #35

(10-21-2013 12:18 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(10-21-2013 12:13 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I was on an airplane recently and a 60 something fat couple got on the plane. Everyone tensed up thinking they would have to sit next to them. Fortunately there were enough seats on the plane where they got a whole row to themselves, with an empty middle seat. I observed them in flight. They both pulled out their own large bag of potato chips and ate them on the flight. I'm not talking the little bags you might get with a lunch, I'm talking large family sized bags of Lays , we're talking over a thousand calories each. Washed down with the Cokes they ordered. Disgusting gluttony. I can't imagine how shitty I would feel eating all that grease and empty calories.

I always wig out. Usually they are the last ones on and all are left are middle seats...fuck...

I was on a flight from Norfolk to Charlotte and this whale of a man came through. you know the kind with the bad skin and the labored breathing. so he comes and parks it all the while my worst fear is that this dude is going to fart on me mid flight and I'm going to wig out on this guy 30,000 ft in the air. luckily a flight attendant noticed that I was struggling to remain in my seat(half my body was in the aisle and this fat ass hole was sitting there not even making an effort) so the flight attendant moved me to my own private row which was cool but then I wondered as fat body was left with his own private row, how often does weighing 360+ pounds work out to his advantage. That a man is so fat he can just involuntarily create better seats on an airplane because he takes up 1.75 seats. At an amusement park does he get front of the line privilege because supporting his body weight in the line might cause him physical stress?

Post: #36

(12-21-2013 04:06 AM)birdrussell Wrote:  

(10-21-2013 12:18 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(10-21-2013 12:13 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I was on an airplane recently and a 60 something fat couple got on the plane. Everyone tensed up thinking they would have to sit next to them. Fortunately there were enough seats on the plane where they got a whole row to themselves, with an empty middle seat. I observed them in flight. They both pulled out their own large bag of potato chips and ate them on the flight. I'm not talking the little bags you might get with a lunch, I'm talking large family sized bags of Lays , we're talking over a thousand calories each. Washed down with the Cokes they ordered. Disgusting gluttony. I can't imagine how shitty I would feel eating all that grease and empty calories.

I always wig out. Usually they are the last ones on and all are left are middle seats...fuck...

I was on a flight from Norfolk to Charlotte and this whale of a man came through. you know the kind with the bad skin and the labored breathing. so he comes and parks it all the while my worst fear is that this dude is going to fart on me mid flight and I'm going to wig out on this guy 30,000 ft in the air. luckily a flight attendant noticed that I was struggling to remain in my seat(half my body was in the aisle and this fat ass hole was sitting there not even making an effort) so the flight attendant moved me to my own private row which was cool but then I wondered as fat body was left with his own private row, how often does weighing 360+ pounds work out to his advantage. That a man is so fat he can just involuntarily create better seats on an airplane because he takes up 1.75 seats. At an amusement park does he get front of the line privilege because supporting his body weight in the line might cause him physical stress?

Most airlines have a policy that if you do not fit in the seat, you need to buy two tickets for yourself. You get a refund on one if there is an empty seat. Some airlines say you need to do this if you need a seat belt extender. Some say you need to buy two if you cannot put down the arm rest.

Post: #37

(10-21-2013 11:54 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  Not sure where to put this and didn't want to start another thread.


LINK NOT SAFE FOR YOUR EYES - MAY CAUSE EXTREME DISCOMFORT. BARFING, CRINGING, HEADACHES AND BONER LOSS ARE COMMON SYMPTOMS.

http://ineedfatacceptance.tumblr.com/

Quote:This project started at the NOLOSE conference in Portland, OR in July, 2013, as a platform for folks to share with the world why fat acceptance is vital to all of us. We are continuing and expanding the project beyond NOLOSE to allow more folks to share their need for fat acceptance.

Why wasn't I told about this?

This site is a goldmine! It's like... they're... trolling... themselves!




He's half right


No comment


It's eating the sign!


And by "the same dignity mine is", he means "jizzed on in the park"


Is it a blimp? Is it a really big plane? No, it's Superfatty!


Never mind the sign - WHAT THE FUCK *IS* THAT THING?


The Spaniards mistook her for a continent


How has he managed to hide? Did he fall into the Grand Canyon?


Stuff to share, like diabetes.

Post: #38

(03-04-2015 01:56 PM)SteveMcMahon Wrote:  
Stuff to share, like diabetes.

I have stuff to share ( except for food - keep your hands off my cupcakes bitches)

Post: #39

I have nothing against fat people, but if you're fat:
-Pay for your own healthcare
-Don't get in my way when I walk fast
-Stay the fuck away from me in public transport, especially don't sit next to me on the plane

Post: #40

Also, fat people smell like moldy bacon or some kind of sweaty meat.

Post: #41

This is funny to watch The Fitness Industry's Methods Led to the Fat Acceptance Movement

Post: #42

Post: #43

Joe Rogan - Americans Are Too Fat for the Military

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OFevGcLHTU

It is becoming an epidemic. You see them everywhere nowadays - the mall, the airport, at work, sports games.

Post: #44

Fat acceptance and "offense culture" are intimately linked.

To destroy one, you must destroy the other as well. Fat shaming works, that is why it is so maligned these days. There were no fat people in the fat, and if they were fat, they were overweight, none of this morbidly obese BS.

Beauty is very objective. I repeat, beauty is very objective. We have to beat back the subjectivity trend in fashion and mass media.

Fatness is a symptom of deeper problem. Lack of self control. Lack of discipline. Lack of considerateness.

Post: #45

(05-02-2019 05:56 PM)CorvusGuardXIX Wrote:  Joe Rogan - Americans Are Too Fat for the Military

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OFevGcLHTU

It is becoming an epidemic. You see them everywhere nowadays - the mall, the airport, at work, sports games.

Listened to the whole thing...wow.

Post: #46

(12-21-2013 04:06 AM)birdrussell Wrote:  

(10-21-2013 12:18 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(10-21-2013 12:13 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I was on an airplane recently and a 60 something fat couple got on the plane. Everyone tensed up thinking they would have to sit next to them. Fortunately there were enough seats on the plane where they got a whole row to themselves, with an empty middle seat. I observed them in flight. They both pulled out their own large bag of potato chips and ate them on the flight. I'm not talking the little bags you might get with a lunch, I'm talking large family sized bags of Lays , we're talking over a thousand calories each. Washed down with the Cokes they ordered. Disgusting gluttony. I can't imagine how shitty I would feel eating all that grease and empty calories.

I always wig out. Usually they are the last ones on and all are left are middle seats...fuck...

I was on a flight from Norfolk to Charlotte and this whale of a man came through. you know the kind with the bad skin and the labored breathing. so he comes and parks it all the while my worst fear is that this dude is going to fart on me mid flight and I'm going to wig out on this guy 30,000 ft in the air. luckily a flight attendant noticed that I was struggling to remain in my seat(half my body was in the aisle and this fat ass hole was sitting there not even making an effort) so the flight attendant moved me to my own private row which was cool but then I wondered as fat body was left with his own private row, how often does weighing 360+ pounds work out to his advantage. That a man is so fat he can just involuntarily create better seats on an airplane because he takes up 1.75 seats. At an amusement park does he get front of the line privilege because supporting his body weight in the line might cause him physical stress?

It's not just airplanes...that fat guy is creating his own gravity. That's a level of privilege denied to the average fucks like you and I.

Post: #47

That's why I fly on Asian aeroplanes hence I can't recall seeing a fat Western beach whale on a plane.

Post: #48

(05-02-2019 12:38 PM)Crusader Wrote:  This is funny to watch The Fitness Industry's Methods Led to the Fat Acceptance Movement

Great vid and some good points - there's lots of people in the gym that should just stay home (I'm looking at you, Asian great-granny that's doing a thousand reps with 5lbs and hogging the machine for 30 min) - but oh no super-fit dude is pescatarian, thus avoiding red meat & poultry. Where's the paleo backlash?

Post: #49

Quote:“even blind men who can’t see much of anything can still see why men love the figures of women with low [Waist-to-Hip Ratios (WHR)]”.

-social psychologist

In The World Of The Blind, The Woman With A Low WHR Is Queen

It is not a product of the media. It is not social or cultural in origin. The preference for a 0.7 waist-to-hip ratio is genetically hard-wired in humans. Why would you want to subvert nature? This preference is universal, biological and natural. Casting it away or repressing it would challenge aspects of our species that form the very center of what it means to be exist as a biological life-form.

Post: #50

Nothing so far has matched Fat Shaming Week, from the glory days.

RVF: Fat Shaming Week thread

The reaction was hysterical:

(10-09-2013 09:46 PM)Roosh Wrote:  It's going viral on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23fatshami...f=realtime

Buzzfeed: Terrible People have decided it's "Fat Shaming Week"