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OK guys, I'm in Ukraine and I have been working a number of hot prospects via social networks. Note my location is listed as being in the same city as them.

This is quite specialised online game and requires a different skillset to traditional online dating. FSU has a number of online dating sites but they are full of soft and hard pros. Not cool. I switched to mainly social networks and couch surfing.

After messaging 500+ targets, I notice FSU girls are extremely skittish about foreign men cold messaging them out of the blue. Even if said men are in their city and claim to be working there for the next few years

You need to adopt a Roosh daybang style "Don't scare the cat" game whereby you work them real slow and real careful, asking about local bars etc, warming them up and then asking them for a coffee meet up during the day. Some will say in FSU the daytime environment is so target rich with top talent that online pipelining before flying out is a waste of resources, but I like to have a few fish lined up in the barrel before touching down.

If you even attempt any humour or any sort of flirting you typically get blown out of the water. For research purposes I set up a dummy account for an average looking, english speaking, single status ukrainian girl on an FSU social network and within a few days I was getting fuckwit messages from nogame Italian/Turkish/British morons, saying I'm beautiful, do I have a boyfriend etc. So these nogame idiots have made our tasks doubly hard getting play from these radioactive beauties.

Numbers are, of 500 messages, around 50 respond of which maybe 8 have agreed to meet for a coffee. Understand that proposing drinks at a bar is out of the question as I'm flying under the radar here, weasel/NOE style (military buffs will get the reference).

So the question is, how do you guys proceed during the "first date" seeing as its not meant to be a first date?

You POF and OKC veterans remember that on online dating, you assume she is single, you have met up for the purpose of assessing if you are attracted to each other etc. Not the case with a cold social networking meet.

Normally D1 I would go hard and fast into ATTRACTION material, going cocky funny and teasing hard. But on this kind of date it would scare the cat.

My thinking is to jump straight to COMFORT/RAPPORT material, from time to time spiking with some TEASING/ATTRACTION and then releasing quickly by going back to COMFORT, like a precision surgical strike. I would also use strong eye contact and give her at least one physical compliment. Kino kept to an absolute minimum.

Scheduling the coffee for later in the evening to make a bar/alcohol bounce plausible - "Hell, you seem really cool, lets check out this bar I saw blah blah blah" game on.

Any advice from RVFers who have experience in this situation? To share with the forum?

Post: #2

(09-14-2012 03:26 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  My thinking is to jump straight to COMFORT/RAPPORT material, from time to time spiking with some TEASING/ATTRACTION and then releasing quickly by going back to COMFORT, like a precision surgical strike. I would also use strong eye contact and give her at least one physical compliment. Kino kept to an absolute minimum.

Scheduling the coffee for later in the evening to make a bar/alcohol bounce plausible - "Hell, you seem really cool, lets check out this bar I saw blah blah blah" game on.

I like the strategy. I actually might have a similar opportunity soon. I would definitely sprinkle in some COMFORT material every once in a while so as not to "scare away the cat"....and then I would use the ATTRACTION material to feel her out and see if I can proceed with kino.