Post: #1

Don't you dare to be a mercenary if the other guys have Russian military hardware. It could be ugly.

Post: #2

(09-07-2012 11:52 PM)Luvianka Wrote:  Don't you dare to be a mercenary if the other guys have Russian military hardware.

Why? Are American tanks firing more humane cannon shells?

Post: #3

I don't see how sarcasm is appropriate in reference to the article. You just saw 3 men in their dying moment.


Some people...

Post: #4

Thanks for this life-defining thread.

I was just about to pop over to the lifestyle forum and start a thread "How does one go about becoming a mercenary?" But I guess I'd never thought about the fact that the guys might have Russian military hardware.

Now I'm going to stay away from fired tank shells and make sure to choose a different career.

Post: #5

What's with the tendency to laugh at other people's unfortunate passing lately o the boarD?

Post: #6

(09-08-2012 09:01 AM)Vicious Wrote:  What's with the tendency to laugh at other people's unfortunate passing lately o the boarD?

Actually, I think the laughter is directed at the OP for using the words "Russian military hardware". You know, because non-Russian shells are non-exploding and made of rubber so they do not hurt so much...

I am sure that being bayoneted to death is a much more humane way of being slain on the battlefield.

Post: #7

(09-08-2012 09:01 AM)Vicious Wrote:  What's with the tendency to laugh at other people's unfortunate passing lately o the boarD?

Its because these guys have never been to combat. Nor will they ever.

Post: #8

(09-08-2012 10:29 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Its because these guys have never been to combat. Nor will they ever.

No, it's because those dudes volunteered to fight and, thus, cannot be surprised if they get themselves killed. Moreover, I do not know them, never met them. They are not my family. They are not even part of my ethnic group.

If I am gonna cry my eyes out, why not cry for the 3000+ people that die in car accidents every day, or the 5000+ that die each day of preventable water disease? What about the children that die of cancer? What about the old people rotting away in retirement homes? Death and suffering are everywhere.

Lastly, the only reason there's still war in Syria is because the West is supporting the rebels in order to expand the "international community" (aka: American Empire). Empire is as old as History, but I sure as hell am not gonna get misty-eyed because a few useful idiots got blown to pieces...

PS: I have over 5 war veterans in my family. All grunts. Don't pull the "you don't know what combat is" card, please. I heard their stories first-hand.

Post: #9

(09-08-2012 10:46 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

(09-08-2012 10:29 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Its because these guys have never been to combat. Nor will they ever.

No, it's because those dudes volunteered to fight and, thus, cannot be surprised if they get themselves killed. Moreover, I do not know them, never met them. They are not my family. They are not even part of my ethnic group.

If I am gonna cry my eyes out, why not cry for the 3000+ people that die in car accidents every day, or the 5000+ that die each day of preventable water disease? What about the children that die of cancer? What about the old people rotting away in retirement homes? Death and suffering are everywhere.

Lastly, the only reason there's still war in Syria is because the West is supporting the rebels in order to expand the "international community" (aka: American Empire). Empire is as old as History, but I sure as hell am not gonna get misty-eyed because a few useful idiots got blown to pieces...

PS: I have over 5 war veterans in my family. All grunts. Don't pull the "you don't know what combat is" card, please. I heard their stories first-hand.

Which is second hand knowledge.

Post: #10

(09-08-2012 10:54 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Which is second hand knowledge.

I get it. You're trying to take the moral high ground, claiming that you care more than I do (are you a leftist now?) and, simultaneously, you have combat experience (gonna run for Congress?). I am gonna enlist right now so I can keep up with Aliblahbas. Hope the war in Syria is still on by the time I get out of boot camp!!!

Seriously, Aliblahba, I would expect this mental / emotional masturbation from Vicious. After all, he's a Swede! But you were one of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children for fuck's sake. I expected you to have a thicker skin.

Post: #11

(09-08-2012 11:01 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

(09-08-2012 10:54 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Which is second hand knowledge.

I get it. You're trying to take the moral high ground, claiming that you care more than I do (are you a leftist now?) and, simultaneously, you have combat experience (gonna run for Congress?). I am gonna enlist right now so I can keep up with Aliblahbas. Hope the war in Syria is still on by the time I get out of boot camp!!!

Seriously, Aliblahba, I would expect this mental / emotional masturbation from Vicious. After all, he's a Swede! But you were one of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children for fuck's sake. I expected you to have a thicker skin.

Calm down man. I was trolling. Should be out chasing pussy but am too hungover and it's hot as fuck outside. All play and no work make Ali a very unhappy boy.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll find another thread to torment.

Post: #12

(09-08-2012 11:01 AM)Icarus Wrote:  Seriously, Aliblahba, I would expect this mental / emotional masturbation from Vicious. After all, he's a Swede! But you were one of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children for fuck's sake. I expected you to have a thicker skin.

You really have a hard on for Sweden/Swedes. Just accept that you got played earlier and move on instead of projecting.

Post: #13

(09-08-2012 11:38 AM)Vicious Wrote:  You really have a hard on for Sweden/Swedes. Just accept that you got played earlier and move on instead of projecting.

I like Swedes. It's just that you haven't lived up to your full potential for a few decades (centuries?) now. Don't you know how it works? Those who criticize you are the ones who want you to improve. You don't criticize the lost cases, because you know they will never get out of the quagmire.

You could have the closest thing possible to the perfect society, and instead you're busy with trivialities and inanity. Fiddling while Rome burns...

PS: Sweden has not been at war for 200 years. Unless your officer corps is bled regularly, incompetence kicks in. The Americans know about war. The Western Europeans not so much anymore. Try not to take things too personally. I said it already.

Post: #14

Syria's population has grown from 3.5 million in 1950 to 20 million in 2010 (source). Of course they're fighting continuous wars and rebellions there. They're crammed together like rats in a cage.

Until they enforce modern birth control methods in muslim areas, they'll just alternate overbreeding with holding wars that don't move national borders but do kill off excess population. The problem is everyone wants the strongest and best men in their army so they have a chance of winning. So you end up killing off your strongest and best, leaving only the stupid and cowards to breed.

Like this $300 a month cab driver with two wives and nine children.

Post: #15

(09-08-2012 11:53 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

(09-08-2012 11:38 AM)Vicious Wrote:  You really have a hard on for Sweden/Swedes. Just accept that you got played earlier and move on instead of projecting.

I like Swedes. It's just that you haven't lived up to your full potential for a few decades (centuries?) now. Don't you know how it works? Those who criticize you are the ones who want you to improve. You don't criticize the lost cases, because you know they will never get out of the quagmire.

You could have the closest thing possible to the perfect society, and instead you're busy with trivialities and inanity. Fiddling while Rome burns...

PS: Sweden has not been at war for 200 years. Unless your officer corps is bled regularly, incompetence kicks in. The Americans know about war. The Western Europeans not so much anymore. Try not to take things too personally. I said it already.

Incorrect Icarus. The Swedes tried to wage a war with the Marines not too long ago, and lost. Got the video right here:

Post: #16

(09-08-2012 02:26 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Ha! I love Eastwood, but I've always been conflicted about him in that movie. He's a hards as nails sarge but at the same time he's a wuss for that one girl, that part I couldn't accept.

"I'm gonna rip your head of and shit down your neck"
Best bad-ass one line ever?

Post: #17

(09-08-2012 01:11 PM)Blackhawk Wrote:  Syria's population has grown from 3.5 million in 1950 to 20 million in 2010 (source). Of course they're fighting continuous wars and rebellions there. They're crammed together like rats in a cage.

Until they enforce modern birth control methods in muslim areas, they'll just alternate overbreeding with holding wars that don't move national borders but do kill off excess population. The problem is everyone wants the strongest and best men in their army so they have a chance of winning. So you end up killing off your strongest and best, leaving only the stupid and cowards to breed.

Like this $300 a month cab driver with two wives and nine children.

Thanks for the numbers. There are naturally other circumstances for spurring civil wars (inter-group conflicts old as milennia, shia vs sunni, tutsi vs hutsi), but population pressure is an extremely potent catalyst. A piece of land can only support so many.

You pose an interesting question though, if warfare in the middle east has a dysgenic effect on the population. I'm lead to think so, since who dies and lives in these modern conflicts is largely a throw of the dice. Being the strongest and smartest guy on the field gives you less of an edge when everyone has Ak47ns and grenades (first world war is the extreme example, completely random).

Hmm.. isn't there an official Syria thread somewhere..

Post: #18

(09-08-2012 10:46 AM)Icarus Wrote:  5000+ that die each day of preventable water disease?

I hate to change the subject, or hijack, or whatever you guys call it. I'm sorry, but I have to do it.

What exactly is preventable water disease? How do you catch it? Is it similar to water on the knee?

Are there certain things I need to do to keep from getting preventable water disease?

Aloha!

Post: #19

(09-08-2012 01:11 PM)Blackhawk Wrote:  Syria's population has grown from 3.5 million in 1950 to 20 million in 2010 (source). Of course they're fighting continuous wars and rebellions there. They're crammed together like rats in a cage.
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Like this $300 a month cab driver with two wives and nine children.

~6x population growth in 60 years sounds like a lot. Arizona went from 750k in 1950 to 5 million in 2010 (~7-fold increase), somehow they're not revolting.

"continuous wars and rebellions" - there was a small uprising in 82 which was brutally crushed by the dictatorship. Nothing since then. Not continuous wars and rebellions. "Arab spring" revolutions came to Syria in the form of some teenager graffiti, the government severely overreacted, sparking protests which were then armed by the Gulf & West - there's your cliff notes for the civil war, not a Malthusian bottleneck.

"crammed together like rats in a cage" - I lived in Syria for a year, in Damascus and Latakia, and visited Aleppo a few times, Homs, Hama, etc. So who should I believe? A bullshit Reuters article, or my lying eyes? Damascus and Aleppo are big cities, but they're not "crammed" - they're sprawling. Statistically, population density of the whole country is ~Ohio/Pennsylvania (110/sq. km). Most people live in the Western provinces, more like Maryland density (~200).

As far as war in general being dysgenic, the "best and brightest" in Syria mostly leave the country to go make money in the gulf, Europe, etc., where they can earn 20x higher wages. I've no doubt the war will change demographics significantly, though.

Post: #20

(09-08-2012 04:49 PM)Kona Wrote:  Are there certain things I need to do to keep from getting preventable water disease?

Whatever you do, DON'T TRY TO PREVENT WATER. Shit gets deadly fast if it turns out to be preventable.