Mastery - Robert Greene's new book

Great interview mister, thanks for sharing it.

The interviewer was pretty good, she knows how to listen. I get annoyed when interviewers dont know how to listen.

This book must be really good, im buying this for sure.

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I'll second that emotion. I tried to live by the 48 LAWS when it first came out and found it situationally worthless.

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Am i the only one who is finding Robert more alpha on this interview? He used to sound really corny in all other interviews, on this one, he is more the G type.

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(11-16-2012 09:01 PM)pitt Wrote:  Am i the only one who is finding Robert more alpha on this interview? He used to sound really corny in all other interviews, on this one, he is more the G type.

I think he's smart and multidimensional enough to change up his personality based on what the audience wants and expects of him -- especially since he writes about this so thoroughly in his books!

I'm reading Mastery right now, up to page 90, and I think it's his best work yet. It's all shit anyone can use.

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another great interview.

Chase Jarvis and Robert Greene

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(09-04-2012 11:11 AM)Kitsune Wrote:  Yay I guess when this 9.99 book comes out everyone will all be masters of everything... just like 48 laws made everyone powerful.

You can be right, in that most people will not achieve the kind of power or mastery he writes about, but get it all completely wrong in that striving for these things is what a worthwhile life is all about.

Being "deconstructionist" may seem very smart and cool, but this kind of smartness is as much an illusion as the power or mastery you are sneering at. Taken to it's logical conclusion you wouldn't even bother getting out of bed in the morning. What's the point? You'll just have to go to bed again in around 16 hours.

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I look forward to reading it.

George Leonard, who sadly passed away a couple of years ago, covered the same topic in his book 'Mastery' and it gave tons of practical advice:



The author:



Just found some useful cliff notes of the book here: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/122009

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Anybody read this book?

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Other books on mastery to check out:

The Talent Code
Effortless Mastery
The Art of Learning
Nurtured by Love
Mastery

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Anyone read Malcolm Gladwell's "Outliers"? If I remember correctly Hencredible Cassanova was repping it as one of his favorite books...? It's sold a shit ton of copies and is very popular, though Gladwell I know has his share of haters. Is it a Tony Robbins situation where Gladwell's haters haven't even read his stuff and are making a bunch of assumptions about his work?

This shit is fucking hilarious BTW:

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I've read "Outliers" as well as "Blink." I'm not a huge fan of Gladwell. Of course I did gain a few interesting/useful points from his books, but it wasn't enough to make me recommend him to anyone.

In my opinion, he really stretched himself to make each concept into a whole book. By half way through the books (yes, both books), it felt like Gladwell was pulling the old "I have 6 solid pages for a high school essay but stretch it to 10 to meet the teacher's minimum requirement" move from High School.

Tony Robbins, on the other hand, I am a huge fan of. Of all his stuff, Ultimate Power is the first, the classic and in my opinion packs the most value of anything he's written, still to this day.

(01-12-2013 09:57 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Anyone read Malcolm Gladwell's "Outliers"? If I remember correctly Hencredible Cassanova was repping it as one of his favorite books...? It's sold a shit ton of copies and is very popular, though Gladwell I know has his share of haters. Is it a Tony Robbins situation where Gladwell's haters haven't even read his stuff and are making a bunch of assumptions about his work?

This shit is fucking hilarious BTW:

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I'm 3/4 into Mastery and it has revealed a lot of hidden understandings that I have been aimlessly searching for. However, it also leaves me in the same predicament as before.

The examples he uses of different people emphasis on the passion that they displayed for their works from an early age. They were completely mesmerized by their craft and calling when they were children. Some of them were born with innate abilities and others had to put in that extra effort to reach the stage of Mastery.

There is an emphasis on finding your own passions and ideas that you are completely enamored with. How can someone who is in their early 20's without any direction or purpose or any strengths for that matter discover this purpose?

Ive been thinking hard on things that enamored me from as far back as I can remember. ( Side note: I seem to have a really bad memory of my past). Ive come up with such things as: rocks/minerals, dinosaurs, reading childrens novels then progressing to graphic novels, theater/acting, soccer, guitar, fitness/nutrition, boxing etc.

From this list I still have interest in a few of these but its too late to put in 10,000 hours to become a soccer player.

So my questions are: 1) What are practical ways to rediscover your childlike mind?
2) How can I determine what my skills and/or passions are?
3) How can 1 balance the issue of your passion vs. making enough money to survive?

Regarding number 3, there is an example in the book of Champollion. He spent YEARS of his life to figure out how to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics, but living in poverty during that time. His passions didnt pay his bill.

The 1 character in the book who without a doubt became wealthy was Paul Graham. None of these Masters were doing it for the money; they only had a deep desire.

But for someone who does not have the advantage of time ( being 23 vs being 6) shouldnt the think they desire to become a master in be something that could pay the bills?

Just some scattered thoughts, looking for practical input. Thanks

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With the internet the playing field has been leveled and it's easier for people to make money on their passions than ever before. Not saying you'll get rich, but it's possible. Look at Roosh. He turned his passion for banging chicks into a thriving business.

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(06-12-2017 05:39 PM)sonoran_ Wrote:  I'm 3/4 into Mastery and it has revealed a lot of hidden understandings that I have been aimlessly searching for. However, it also leaves me in the same predicament as before.

The examples he uses of different people emphasis on the passion that they displayed for their works from an early age. They were completely mesmerized by their craft and calling when they were children. Some of them were born with innate abilities and others had to put in that extra effort to reach the stage of Mastery.

There is an emphasis on finding your own passions and ideas that you are completely enamored with. How can someone who is in their early 20's without any direction or purpose or any strengths for that matter discover this purpose?

Ive been thinking hard on things that enamored me from as far back as I can remember. ( Side note: I seem to have a really bad memory of my past). Ive come up with such things as: rocks/minerals, dinosaurs, reading childrens novels then progressing to graphic novels, theater/acting, soccer, guitar, fitness/nutrition, boxing etc.

From this list I still have interest in a few of these but its too late to put in 10,000 hours to become a soccer player.

So my questions are: 1) What are practical ways to rediscover your childlike mind?
2) How can I determine what my skills and/or passions are?
3) How can 1 balance the issue of your passion vs. making enough money to survive?

Regarding number 3, there is an example in the book of Champollion. He spent YEARS of his life to figure out how to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics, but living in poverty during that time. His passions didnt pay his bill.

The 1 character in the book who without a doubt became wealthy was Paul Graham. None of these Masters were doing it for the money; they only had a deep desire.

But for someone who does not have the advantage of time ( being 23 vs being 6) shouldnt the think they desire to become a master in be something that could pay the bills?

Just some scattered thoughts, looking for practical input. Thanks

I was where you are about 6 years ago. I still deal with it. I am on the Master's path though. One thing I can tell you is there is a balance between self-study of yourself and of others. You have try on wardrobes kind of speak.

I still haven't picked a Mastered subject. Art is my mastery I guess. I can paint, create films, play drums well, write in any medium (sales or fun), code and can play sports at a good level.

I was never good at math though, maybe you are. In the book you have to find the
what and how in your interest. Finding your interest may be taking a trip.
I'm very pragamatic. I found my interests at the public library. I think it is a falsity that people find their "passion" outside of their hometown. From what I've read from the greats. Your hometown is what defines you. If you look at any great filmmaker. Their first films are about where they live...

Carry a journal and write everything comes to mind. This got me out of some very sticky existential knots. Living life without a map is very tough. You will only get through it if you make sense out of your own thoughts.

My biggest advice is to never get bored and frustrated at the learning process.

Learning how to learn is what you should Master.

But be forewarned, what you put in is what you get. You must pay a price. I can really open the book about myself about the price I paid and continue to pay.
Do or don't. You'll pay a price. There is no free lunch

PS: Paying the bills is a casualty of paying the price of Mastery. My credit took a beating. I now know the System cannot control me. But I'm back on good terms. Most people will not take this risk. I don't blame them. But, it will undoubtedly happen at one point in time. If you take the book literally. The book is true if you're wondering. Masterfully written.

PPS: One trick I am doing to gain a comprehensive outlook of what I'm made to do for the rest of my life. Thanks to Spotify. I went and loaded up EVERY song I listened to when I was the most happiest in my youth. Activities I love flooded my mind. New Inspiration for sure. Especially when all your friends sell out.
Your skills are your only friend...

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One thing that I can take away from the book is to accept the process rather than waiting for success. Before coming to terms with this, I was unhappy because success was not in my reach.

I wish I had become proficient at something in my youth, all those activities I listed, I only dabbled in. Its wierd, but the reasons I always quit ( playing soccer on a team, taek wondo, guitar) is because I was worried about my parents spending money on me. Even at a young age I was worried about money lol.

I like your idea of listening to the songs of my youth. My ipod is already preloaded with songs all the way from when I was 12.

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This is a good place to reference an excellent workbook that helped me in answering the questions 'what am I really passionate about and want to master? What is my purpose for life?' Knowing your unique talents or 'genius' (theme of the book) helps identify your purpose. Mastery is a natural step when you identify your talents and begin to see how you can apply them and become masterful in an area or field.

Dick Richards, 'Is Your Genius at Work?'

https://www.amazon.com/Your-Genius-Work-...0891061940

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(06-13-2017 12:37 PM)sonoran_ Wrote:  One thing that I can take away from the book is to accept the process rather than waiting for success. Before coming to terms with this, I was unhappy because success was not in my reach.

I wish I had become proficient at something in my youth, all those activities I listed, I only dabbled in. Its wierd, but the reasons I always quit ( playing soccer on a team, taek wondo, guitar) is because I was worried about my parents spending money on me. Even at a young age I was worried about money lol.

I like your idea of listening to the songs of my youth. My ipod is already preloaded with songs all the way from when I was 12.

Don't look back in Anger. You can only go forward. If you don't you'll have the same regrets at 40. In the book, Greene says you can start at any time. No matter what age. You're young. You have to get them money worries out of your system.
That's been ingrained and you'll have to defeat that challenge.

It's tough. But, it's worth the skill knowing that money cannot control you. You cannot control if you, yourself are being controlled. Fact.

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