Post: #1

About a year ago, I dumped this girl. She was a cute 8, but tremendously inexperienced. Since she refused to suck my dick or let me finger her after three weeks, it was time to give her the boot.

(Yeah, I know I waited too long.)

A couple of weeks ago, I hit her up and we've hung out twice. We've kissed and I felt her up, but nothing more. She lives an hour away. I want this girl off my case if she isn't going to fuck me.

However, it's too easy/dick to just throw her away without learning anything. I want to figure out if by complimenting her nonstop and being needy, I can actually pull her closer.

I know the result will be she will want out, which is what I want. But I want to try wanting her so much, she runs. The great thing is I can try this out on a girl who has turned me off.

This is probably going to be weird for both her and I because I've shown higher value by caring less about our relationship. But I'm fine doing it, and actually excited to see what ensues.

Let's end this shit!

Post: #2

You should not do this. If you want out just put the bitch on ice. Keep your power position and hit it a few months down the line when you hit a dry spell. This is how you make it clear she won't get sexless intimacy from you. Try going big time cave-man first.

Post: #3

I don't see the point of your plan. Why are you trying to feign negative traits?

I would tell her that you want an adult relationship, and that part of such a relationship includes sexual intimacy. Then, on to the next one. If she comes after you again, she'll know that she has to stop being a prude.

Post: #4

Whatever works for you. If shes an 8 in your mind, I guess go for it. She sounds young, so you can break her in and turn her out. I hope you aren't wasting your time on one and have others in rotation.

Post: #5

give her DRAMA DRUG

in a nutshell, viciously provide her with emotional drama and put her love/hate situation. on your part it's nothing but a roleplay (no attachement whatsoever), but to her it will be real.

whatever you do make it dramatic, almost movie like scene. say you didn't want to make a move cause you were fucked over so many times by girls. say you're want to really open up but you feel you shouldn't. blame her, say that her lack of opennes towards you caused you to be alarmed and old memories came back. tell her she got the same [quality] that other girl who cheated on you had. tell her you both shouldn't meet anymore. tell her let's be friends. then tell her you can't be friends with her. tell her you met other girl and don't know what to do now. call her telling her you just broke up with that girl and you need to talk. make move and say you don't know what you're doing. if she complies tell her you actually didn't broke up, you just argued a lot with your GF and you both don't speak to each other. then tell her that she's so different you want her now. tell her that it has to end once and for all and that you need to close that 'us' chapter and make love one last time to end it for good, etc etc..

vicious emotional mindfuck

most of this stuff she will not actually believe but if you make yourself so vulnerable and open and show emotional connection (again, just as a roleplay!) she will hope that it's true and will give in. she will text you back writting essays. she will she will respond to you emotionally if if she will not like you. she will be overwhelmed by all of what's going on between you both.

Post: #6

I'm not one to waste time with games of this nature. If you're going to see this chick, try to fuck her. If she keeps resisting, put her on the shelf. Your time is too valuable. She needs to know that if she's not fucking and sucking, you're not interested. I know it hurts to let a pretty young thing go, but maintaining your frame and dignity is far more important. Only kids play this kind of sexless boyfriend/girlfriend shit. You're a grown-ass man.

Post: #7

Pointless waste of time man. Just tell her you're not interested any more and move on. It seems to me you are justifying a way to keep her around even though you know its time to move on. You say she's turned you off, but if that were true, you would have zero interest in seeing her again. Cut the poor girl off and let her move on. No need to fuck with her head.

Post: #8

This experiment should be aborted

Post: #9

El mech had a similar experiment where he was going beta but it didn't went good so it's a definite no.

Edit: here's the link to that thread: /thread-11348.html

Post: #10

(08-17-2012 11:23 PM)Dan Wrote:  About a year ago, I dumped this girl. She was a cute 8, but tremendously inexperienced. Since she refused to suck my dick or let me finger her after three weeks, it was time to give her the boot.

(Yeah, I know I waited too long.)

A couple of weeks ago, I hit her up and we've hung out twice. We've kissed and I felt her up, but nothing more. She lives an hour away. I want this girl off my case if she isn't going to fuck me.

However, it's too easy/dick to just throw her away without learning anything. I want to figure out if by complimenting her nonstop and being needy, I can actually pull her closer.

I know the result will be she will want out, which is what I want. But I want to try wanting her so much, she runs. The great thing is I can try this out on a girl who has turned me off.

This is probably going to be weird for both her and I because I've shown higher value by caring less about our relationship. But I'm fine doing it, and actually excited to see what ensues.

Let's end this shit!

Either gives her a shitload of pre-selection/drama/jealousy plot or abandon the whole thing. Your neediness plan sucks.

I have been in your situation in my beta days when I was dating a Indian girl back home in 2006. We dated for a month, broke up, dated for another month a few months later but she wasn't giving it up at all. She was my first non-white girl back in the day and I was determent to make it work.

We broke up again and I never saw her again.

I know a few guys here are raising eyebrown when hearing i was dating an Indian girl but she was very beautiful ( Tony Braxton lookalike) and was adopted by Dutch people from 3 year of age so she grew up without the whole Indian Blue elephant man religion or class society. still she had Indian princess threats in her genes.

Post: #11

This shit doesn't work. If you want to prove it to yourself then by all means experiment, but don't expect to bang any time soon.

There is a certain subset of women that this fake beta/needy game works(Used up chicks, girls who never get male attention, single moms looking for another daddy) even then it's not my default strategy.

I assume this girl is young and in the US giving it an almost 100% chance of backfiring.

Post: #12

(08-19-2012 04:15 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  I know a few guys here are raising eyebrown when hearing i was dating an Indian girl but she was very beautiful ( Tony Braxton lookalike) and was adopted by Dutch people from 3 year of age so she grew up without the whole Indian Blue elephant man religion or class society. still she had Indian princess threats in her genes.

Indian girls can be very pretty.

Post: #13

On Friday night, I complimented her, said how I wanted to spend every minute of my life with her, said she was better than me, and used more exclamation points than necessary.

Then I read all your comments and suggestions telling me to abort this mission.

Since then, she's started two text conversations and has said she misses me. I have also acted in a more "alpha" way - spending long time in between texts, vague responses, etc.

I could be wrong, but I think this girl was just looking to build some comfort with me before she took any big sexual steps. She knows I do fairly well with women and maybe doesn't trust me enough.

It's also entirely possible this girl can't be broken and is too young. We'll see.

Post: #14

Best bet is to go out with her to a club.
Add in booze. Watch her consumption so she's not too drunk, think just a buzz.
Then go caveman with her. Escalate and bang.

If this doesn't work, charge it to the game and move on to greener pastures.