Post: #26

I have been fortunate enough to have never been involved (or have reason to be) in fights in my life so far.

Obviously there was the odd schoolyard scrap but that hardly counts.

My philosophy:

Quote:In one anecdote, Bokuden was challenged by a mannerless ruffian. When asked about his style, Bokuden replied that he studied the "Style of No Sword". The ruffian laughed and insultingly challenged Bokuden to fight him without a sword. Bokuden then agreed to fight the man without his sword but suggested they row out to a nearby island on Lake Biwa to avoid disturbing others. The ruffian agreed, but when he jumped from the boat to the shore of the island, drawing his blade, Bokuden pushed the boat back out, leaving the ruffian stranded on the island. Bokuden explained: "This is my no-sword school".

Post: #27

People that never been in fights in their lives are usually extremely tolerant and they are taken for fools innumerous times.

Every situation is different, usually i dont get into fights unless the other guy is really pushing me for it.

One reason that i got into many fights-arguments in the past was due to screw faces, i cant take this shit, UK cats love to do this shit..stare at you hard and think you are going to be afraid of them. Good thing that this doesnt happen in the US.

Post: #28

Nowadays - I need to feel threatened, my family is threatened, or someone has to be destroying my stuff or stealing it.

Post: #29

(08-17-2012 09:43 AM)Roosh Wrote:  The only problem with being open to fighting is that it distracts you from pussy. The fighting mentality takes you out of the game mentality.

There are two more problems with it circa 2013 in the USA:

1). It can get you ensnared in the legal system. A lot of prisons are now for-profit enterprises while prosecutors get raises and promotions for convictions. So everyone now has a vested, financial interest in you going to jail. This is not "The Dukes of Hazard" anymore; this is like a Kafka-like "In the Penal Colony" nightmare.

2). If you get arrested, a lot of states put your info into an online database. "Your info" means the vital stats from your drivers license. That includes your height, weight, and birthday. If you sometimes lie about those numbers when gaming women, you won't be able to do that anymore since they'll be able to look it up (unless you want to lie about your whole identity). The state of Florida even runs mugshots online.

It would be nice if you could get in a scrape and handle it like your dad or uncles did. But it's not the 1970s anymore. You often don't get the proverbial slap on the wrist. And if the person you come up against falls into a special category you could even be staring down hate crime charges (or some such BS).

Post: #30

(08-17-2012 12:02 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Last fight a guy was in my friend's face. I said something, he got in my face, I hit him.

If you're close enough to hit me, then I am going to hit you.

When in a bar, I deescalate things. I'm a good talker and have a sense of when things will pop off.

I enjoy fighting, but am not trying to catch a case, so I don't do it.

People who fight have nothing to lose. They've been to jail. They don't care about being sued.

(Never fight a guy with a neck tattoo or who is ugly. He's already been rejected by polite society. If he's ugly, he won't think anything about chewing your face off.)

Generally speaking, if you avoid poor people you won't get in many fights.

Wholeheartedly agree with this. If someone gets close enough in an aggressive manner, I usually just hit them or grab them by the throat and put them on their back.

I will de-escalate in most cases too, but once you're close enough to be a physical threat and have a physically threatening look on your face or tone in your voice, I'm not going to leave myself vulnerable - drunk, violent strangers are just too unpredictable. It's either time to extract myself from the situation and let other people that already trying to break it up do their thing or just unload.

I'm really finding it best just to avoid being in certain bars though. Once you're an adult, it seems like 99% of fights can be avoided just by not hanging out in places where they're likely to occur.

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