Post: #26

(07-26-2012 01:49 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Ali,

I think location and target selection matters. I'm approaching mostly 18/19 year old American girls. I am 35 years old. All street game during the day.

How old are you and how old are the girls you are approaching? Where are you located?

I'm sure if I was in Thailand or the Dominican Republic, my numbers would be much higher.

How many 18/19 year olds do you have to approach before you get a bang? Remember, I'm talking street game during the day in the USA.

Damn gio, I thought you were young. I got you by one year. In the U.S. I set down HARD and start creating the "bubble" effect. Find places to go you jive with, and start putting them on lockdown. Coffee shops, bars, restro's, ect. Dress well, tip good, and get to know the staff.

Do it right and it won't take long. Now you're the "man" and when you walk in your known, and girls take note. Wear, do, or say something that gets women curious, and they'll approach. IOI's are great, and if you hold the frame right, make her come. But when a girl comes to you that's it. She had to surrender. Now all you have to do is "don't fuck it up game."

With all that being said, on a short trip (4 dias), I'll approach. You have to due to not having enough time to set up camp. And that mode I HAVE to truly not give a fuck. Drink, talk shit, toss money, neg, aggregate, whatever it takes. I'm a nice guy, and this goes against my grain. But when I'm horny, it's Mr. Hyde. It takes a lot of work for me to get into that mindset most of the time. I'm a slow burn player.

Post: #27

Meet Aliblahba, the new "young up'n coming G." Ha I knew you ripped it off G's old post, and he got to you before I did.

Giovonny - I think he was being sarcastic.

Post: #28

(07-26-2012 02:11 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Damn gio, I thought you were young. I got you by one year. In the U.S. I set down HARD and start creating the "bubble" effect. Find places to go you jive with, and start putting them on lockdown. Coffee shops, bars, restro's, ect. Dress well, tip good, and get to know the staff.

Do it right and it won't take long. Now you're the "man" and when you walk in your known, and girls take note. Wear, do, or say something that gets women curious, and they'll approach. IOI's are great, and if you hold the frame right, make her come. But when a girl comes to you that's it. She had to surrender. Now all you have to do is "don't fuck it up game."

With all that being said, on a short trip (4 dias), I'll approach. You have to due to not having enough time to set up camp. And that mode I HAVE to truly not give a fuck. Drink, talk shit, toss money, neg, aggregate, whatever it takes. I'm a nice guy, and this goes against my grain. But when I'm horny, it's Mr. Hyde. It takes a lot of work for me to get into that mindset most of the time. I'm a slow burn player.

I like that approach.

I'm still curious about your numbers of approaching 18/19 years olds during the day in the USA???

How many 18/19 year olds do you have to approach before you get a bang??? (just day game in the USA)

Post: #29

(07-26-2012 02:19 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(07-26-2012 02:11 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Damn gio, I thought you were young. I got you by one year. In the U.S. I set down HARD and start creating the "bubble" effect. Find places to go you jive with, and start putting them on lockdown. Coffee shops, bars, restro's, ect. Dress well, tip good, and get to know the staff.

Do it right and it won't take long. Now you're the "man" and when you walk in your known, and girls take note. Wear, do, or say something that gets women curious, and they'll approach. IOI's are great, and if you hold the frame right, make her come. But when a girl comes to you that's it. She had to surrender. Now all you have to do is "don't fuck it up game."

With all that being said, on a short trip (4 dias), I'll approach. You have to due to not having enough time to set up camp. And that mode I HAVE to truly not give a fuck. Drink, talk shit, toss money, neg, aggregate, whatever it takes. I'm a nice guy, and this goes against my grain. But when I'm horny, it's Mr. Hyde. It takes a lot of work for me to get into that mindset most of the time. I'm a slow burn player.

I like that approach.

I'm still curious about your numbers of approaching 18/19 years olds during the day in the USA???

How many 18/19 year olds do you have to approach before you get a bang??? (just day game in the USA)

I'll just say this....it's getting lower every year. The bangs that is. But I'm not interested in a girl much anymore that can't even go to the bar to drink. And I won't take the risk of giving a minor alcohol, b/c I'd lose my status with the "guv", and lose the opportunity of making $200K. No pussy is worth that. "Money over bishes".

Post: #30

(07-26-2012 02:30 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  I'll just say this....it's getting lower every year.

Earlier in this thread, you said this..

(07-24-2012 01:07 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  I strike with more accuracy, so my percentages are high.

Because you said this, I thought you knew your percentages?

Maybe you were just guess-timating?

(07-26-2012 02:30 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  I'm not interested in a girl much anymore that can't even go to the bar to drink. And I won't take the risk of giving a minor alcohol

It sounds like you are not gaming 18/19 year olds.

Are you gaming in the USA or abroad?

The reason I'm asking is it takes me 20-40 daytime street approaches to get a bang on an 18/19 year old. You said your percentages were much higher. I was gonna ask you for some help/advice..

But it sounds like we are talking about apples and oranges. If you are not day gaming 18/19 year olds in the USA then we are talking about 2 different types of game. I don't drink and I don't go out at night. It sounds like drinking and night gaming is your style. My style is sober street game.

Post: #31

(07-26-2012 02:57 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(07-26-2012 02:30 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  I'll just say this....it's getting lower every year.

Earlier in this thread, you said this..

(07-24-2012 01:07 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  I strike with more accuracy, so my percentages are high.

Because you said this, I thought you knew your percentages?

Maybe you were just guess-timating?

(07-26-2012 02:30 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  I'm not interested in a girl much anymore that can't even go to the bar to drink. And I won't take the risk of giving a minor alcohol

It sounds like you are not gaming 18/19 year olds.

Are you gaming in the USA or abroad?

The reason I'm asking is it takes me 20-40 daytime street approaches to get a bang on an 18/19 year old. You said your percentages were much higher. I was gonna ask you for some help/advice..

But it sounds like we are talking about apples and oranges. If you are not day gaming 18/19 year olds in the USA then we are talking about 2 different types of game. I don't drink and I don't go out at night. It sounds like drinking and night gaming is your style. My style is sober street game.

Gio, I game whatever I can in the U.S. BUT, the older I get the harder it is to bang younger girls. Now, here's the kicker. I don't have the patience to listen to Jersey Shore stories. SO, how is my dick gonna get hard when I have to listen to "OMG" stories? I commend you for hammering down on those girls, but I don't have the patience. How am I gonna game a bitch in The Roadhouse in Athens when they are bumming cigs and talking about how socialism is what's best for America? I JUST returned from IRAQ? I did it but it takes a toll. Again, I'm not that hard of a player.

Do you think I could game a girl that states "I think all servicemen are raping women and babies"? That makes my hamster spin. And the last thing that gets hard is my dick. Pussy doesn't control my world.

We are comparing apples to oranges, and I don't know my %, but I do know the difference between 10% and 80% without carrying a calculator.

Post: #32

(07-26-2012 03:31 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Gio, I game whatever I can in the U.S. BUT, the older I get the harder it is to bang younger girls. Now, here's the kicker. I don't have the patience to listen to Jersey Shore stories. SO, how is my dick gonna get hard when I have to listen to "OMG" stories? I commend you for hammering down on those girls, but I don't have the patience. How am I gonna game a bitch in The Roadhouse in Athens when they are bumming cigs and talking about how socialism is what's best for America? I JUST returned from IRAQ? I did it but it takes a toll. Again, I'm not that hard of a player.

Do you think I could game a girl that states "I think all servicemen are raping women and babies"? That makes my hamster spin. And the last thing that gets hard is my dick. Pussy doesn't control my world.

We are comparing apples to oranges, and I don't know my %, but I do know the difference between 10% and 80% without carrying a calculator.

Fair enough.

Young girls can get annoying but then again, so can girls at any age. I deal with young girls because they are the hottest and I only have a few years left with them. In a few years, I will really be too old for 90% of them.

And, yes, they can be hard to bang for a guy in his 30's. Thats why I go hard at them. It is not easy and I have to approach alot to get bangs.

(07-26-2012 03:31 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  how is my dick gonna get hard when I have to listen to "OMG" stories?

Because she's 18!

I'm sure your dick will work just fine when a drunk 18 year old is giggling in your ear, touching on you, and looking at you with those "fuck me" eyes.

I don't care what she is talking about, is she is 18 and dtf, I can tolerate her conversation. I actually prefer the young minds over a 28 year old who thnks she has it all figured out. I like the child like wonder and curiosity of the teenage girls. They have such big dreams and its fun to talk about. Either that, or they are just totally lost and looking for direction, which of course, I'm happy to give.

(07-26-2012 03:31 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  I don't know my %, but I do know the difference between 10% and 80% without carrying a calculator.

Haha! Semper Fi dude!

Post: #33

(07-27-2012 12:27 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Check the original post by Roosh:

Sex is Mathmatics

Here is an interesting breakdown of Mystery's numbers from his early days. I think that everybody approaches learning differently. Its the same in all sports, some players and coaches like to look at stats, some players and coaches don't. Its just a matter of preference and learning style.

Mystery's Stats

I don't keep complex stats but I do try to be aware of how may girls I have to approach in order to get a bang. It's a way of monitoring my progress.

Every few months, I expect my numbers to improve, thankfully they have. I don't take it too serious but I do like to have some sort of measuring stick.

Post: #34

That shit is so creepy.

I feel so bad for nerds. No way I'm going to be doing calculus for some pussy please
But I'm glad for nerds doing it for me so I can reaffirm what I already know.

no mathematical equations and graphs on my laptop of how to step outside my house and game a broad walking down the street.
You think iceberg slim calculated a magic number calculating his vibe??

Use some code words or something so you don't sound like a total loser

Post: #35

Questions like this are why I want to calculate an approach index and other stats (my thread from yesterday /thread-14653.html )

Post: #36

(07-27-2012 02:02 PM)bacan Wrote:  Questions like this are why I want to calculate an approach index and other stats (my thread from yesterday /thread-14653.html )

I get it. These dudes obviously like numbers. So naturally they want to make things into stats and build spreadsheets. Spreadsheets and statistics are cool as hell. Buttt... don't be delusional and think it improves your game.

Post: #37

I think it could possibly improve my game. What if I found variables about the situation like venue, time of day, day of week or about the girl -- age, race, background, sexiness - or about myself - wearing a suit, % body fat, etc - that had really dramatic effects, like making it twice as likely that I would go home with a girl? I'm not saying it's worth the effort but it sure would be cool as others have said.

Post: #38

(07-27-2012 05:11 PM)bacan Wrote:  I think it could possibly improve my game. What if I found variables about the situation like venue, time of day, day of week or about the girl -- age, race, background, sexiness - or about myself - wearing a suit, % body fat, etc - that had really dramatic effects, like making it twice as likely that I would go home with a girl? I'm not saying it's worth the effort but it sure would be cool as others have said.

you're a probester aka noob though why are you worried about all that?

btw. 12.4556w4562% bodyfat is optimal to get all the bitches. also, you like 23 y/o japanese-american, early childhood trauma, really really really sexy.

Post: #39

I just think it would be cool. For example last night I went out in a nice collared shirt instead of a t-shirt and got a ton of attention. Little variables like that would be interesting to track.