yeah it IS about being normal. i dare you to be normal when you look into a hottie's amazing eyes or touch her perfect hips and actually stay normal like you are with your best friend.

the title is as accurate it can be and the word "my" in it is not accidental. i'm not trying to convince anybody to agree with me. some do, some don't it's all good.

i never meant to it to be innovative. i simply illustrated one thing that was way more effective FOR ME than "attraction land" of game game game, aka being loud, throwing big gestures, dancing with all the girls, making out left and right, saying hillarious/impressive/bold things, ie: being another full cheesy player she can be entertain with and give fake number to. i really thought that the hotties needed to see my super duper awesome game as a sign of my status. FAIL. i was my own worst enemy.

then I've found that being a guy comfortable being who he is around hot princess is what makes me awesome. no pickup aura. no trying to be cool. the must have frame to set: "we're equals/same league" therefore so need for conveying value. example: if you tell something like "jeeez you look like twin sister of anna, for one moment i really thought you were her, since you're not we should meet, hi, what is YOUR name?", can you see what it subcommunicates?

now my interactions are more chill. no playerish vibe. nothing 'gamey' apart from typical socializing with people around, handshakes, just chilling, not trying any shit, meanwhile spotting the hotties and approaching them casualy, not making them laugh too much, no overescalating, no attracting too hard.

being normal while approaching hottest ass around is DHV, caring less than her whether it goes anywhere is DHV, being in control is DHV, enduring her scepticism is big DHV (usually the less gamey you come across the less tests they give). so instead of attracting more, i go straight to getting to know each other (with flirtations in between of course), we hold the tension with eyes, it goes smoothly, we ask eachother deep, personal questions, we open up, she shows me the REAL girl inside of her, she gets interested, then excited and with time eventually turned on usually in privacy, not in public place.

from the side it looks smooth but rather boring to watch. totally invisible game. two people standing next to each other, running their mouths, smiling, sitting together, looking into each other eyes, bit of seductive and classy physicality, holding hands, maybe some dancing, maybe making a toast, talking to her group. basically quite innocent scene.

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(07-09-2012 04:00 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  ...

with all due respect sir, what you wrote is not relevant to the context of this thread. it's about how emotional connection (rapport = trust + comfort) with hot girls leads to intimacy pretty fast. that applies to all women, no matter the nationality, origin or background.

(07-09-2012 07:05 AM)Forza Wrote:  Im half half on this I think. This is basically date game right, where you have some space and time to have a proper conversation and genuinely get into each other? Ive always been much better 1-1 when there arent any distractions, and and its sweet when you get that feeling that shes having an awesome time listening to you.

yes, dates are great for that.

(07-09-2012 07:05 AM)Forza Wrote:  But there are so many different situations full of hot girls, where the atmosphere is hyped, and getting her alone and talking about your childhood is going to bore the fuck out of her. I mean its good to have the ability to be the big man and show everyone else how much fun they could be having if they were a part of your circle.

Where do you meet your girls? Are you mainly a day game guy and convert into dates?

nightclubs
it's fun fun fun however i always want to stop, calm her down and be real for few minutes. so in the middle of the chaos all it takes it to shout "ey!! ok ok i know its cool, be real now, enough of this shit, let's sit there, where are you from? let's talk, i like you, who are you?" and we just talk about personal things, not exactly super deep shit, just basic personal stuff, in order to find something to connect me with her. then we back to fun. then we back to talking again. back and forth. i become someone familiar now, someone meaningful who she talked about her little sister to, her friends like me, i'm officially the shit in ther eyes at this point. flaking is super low thanks to that.

daytime
i don't lead pua lifestyle, i don't leave house to pick up chicks so i meet them as i go about my business day by day. usually i talk when i bump into a girl on my way, bus stop, bank, school, shop, street, bar, mall, etc. interaction is very casual, no fireworks, i focus on making her comfortable and opening her up the idea of meeting me later while screening at the same time. we talk, i make it arousing (my convo is like: /thread-14202-...id233832), if we click we connect, if not "have a awesome day/let's be friends".

my latest favourite is meeting girls riding a bike. i meet a girl like that, instant date almost guaranteed cause i'm normal guy, i know the place, we talk a bit then instant adventurous date. also it's easy to meet a girl who's not on bike, pedestrians etc. beside i noticed i get a lot of attention probably because of my my usual sport uniform (super bright cytrus shirt and bandana on head).



PS. i don't get it, i write about obvious things. is it that hard to understand that nothing else really hooks a hot girl if you're not known/successful/famous? there is always a guy with more money, with more status, with better car, with cooler apartment, with access to events etc. nothing you can do is impressive. the only thing that is special about you is your personality and emotional influence on the girl.

and girls flaked like fucking crazy when i didn't connect cause competition in "attraction land" is the most fierce, girls are attracted to plenty of guys which rarely converts to someting more than giggling.

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thing is, "normal" to me is probably something different than what it is to someone else. i assume that most guys see this issue similar as "be yourself" thing and completly misundestand it.

see, guys hear me say this and they think that being normal means to be the same weak willed individual that they're now, and that they can relate to girls like 'treat her like a friend and see what happens' and the hot girl will like them for them. that's their definition of being normal. so they start weak and they decide to become even more weak to make a chick love them. yeah..

instead of realizing that you have to be in control like a motherfucker and own this shit with full on boss/gangster attitude in first place so that a hot chick can respect you first, and only then you can open up emotionally and show you're normal guy with feelings, doubts and insecurities like every human being and connect with her like that. in that case that hot chick will be very excited cause speaking metaphorically she got this WARIOR in her arms she can heal and nurture.

so all things like feeling relaxed and entitled, being in control, dealing with scepticism, leading, dealing with friends, being patient and empathethic, making her comfortable, understanding timeframes, all of this is required before having good rapport with a hot girl cause at first she must WANT to open up to you before giving you a chance.

so of course that being "normal" like my neighboor who interact with maybe 5 new chicks a year will not get any kind of results.

i know hot intimidating chicks in different city who feel connection with me asking me when i will come over even tough we keep in touch only via facebook/mail/txt. not because i'm rich or famous. but because when they met me they felt they "won" a champ and when we communicated emotionally later they developed connection with me based on personal stuff cause it showed that i was normal human being (not some kind of cartoonish impeccable alpha to the max).

common thing i hear is that i'm so normal and chill not like these other clowns blabalbabla..

so game first, ask question last.



LET ME CLARIFY THE LAST TIME
this is not about being a hopelessly romantic guy in da club. connection will happen cause as you hold your frame like nobody else she will eventually ger sucked into it.

the advantage of connecting is that it is effective and brings result (if you want to look at it that way). when i gamed girls to the max out of the stratosphere with my witty come backs and dominant escalation, these interactions weren't productive. i believe it was because of obvious player aura and nothing else. every interaction became one sided like 'another player with bunch of cool tricks to make me put out'. girls liked cause it was entertaining but that's all. but in the end my need for getting them gamed to the max and inability to chill out and just talk was probably big sign of hiding myself behind my game.

semi attractive girls dig it cause they think you're awesome, they get clingy and things happen.

but hotties.. they surrounded with cold/aloof motherfuckers, they respond to that status confidence, not dancing monkey confidence. they see entertaining guys as clowns who put on a show to overcompensate lack of integrity with jokes and laughter. there's no shtick to put out there to convince them you're tha boss. any kind of bullshit will be exposed. i'm not rich or famous, it's fake of me to be dressed in pimped out clothes acting bossy like i run the whole town.

the only thing i can do is to be who i am and stand by it 100%. be humble, centered, comfortable in my own skin and unapologetic. and when i'm genuinely interested in a hot girl without putting on a show they are receptive. cause it's real honest and assertive. less is more, always.

if she happens to be more fake ass diva, she likes me for my balls and that i can simply talk to her like to a human being. scepticism is there but not that confrontational one. we don't start "who's cooler" contest so she doesn't put that front she knows that deep down she's just a girl. and i communicate with that "girl" inside her. and that's how connection is build. that's how she invests in interaction now and later.

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