Post: #26

(06-11-2012 02:09 PM)Divorco Wrote:  

(06-11-2012 11:56 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  some guy was arguing with me about suits ... some Dork from DC.

Are you saying nobody from DC wears suits? Or everybody from DC is argumentative? That seems to violate the spirit of this thread. Isn't Roosh from DC?

My comments would make sense to you if you saw the thread I was referring to.

I was just using that as an example.

Post: #27

(06-11-2012 01:55 PM)Kitsune Wrote:  Seriously?
Qualifications, where you're from, how many fights you've been in
? What a recipe for disaster.
I wrote in the forum improvement thread that I didn't understand why people would rather read a profile than ask someone. It is a discussion forum after all.

Besides, not knowing increases your critical thinking skills when reading posts. With anything on the internet you should question it before you implement it.

They would have it written into the forum rules that

Qualifications, where you're from, how many fights you've been in
? What a recipe for disaster.

Are absolutely not to be used to get into pissing contests. They are solely so that people can judge whether the poster is writing from Knowledge or Experience and nothing else. Gives us an idea of what makes people who they are.

This website is all about positive changes. Yet would you agree that who you are now is largely a product of your experiences from the past? I think you could only disagree with that sentence if you have debilitating amnesia.

Post: #28

I don't feel like KeyserSoze deserved a ban for that thread, he sure was persistent in his (perhaps!) wrongheaded view, but he wasn't insulting anyone. Or was he? Well, anyways... what's past is past.

About bios, I for one would be very hesitant about filling it. It is a very fine line between providing good info about yourself and being recognized, particularly if you live in a small country where not many people discuss Game, and I would not rather cross that line for my own safety. Maybe I'm paranoid after what happened to Roosh, but I don't want to risk anything.

Post: #29

(06-11-2012 02:16 PM)ImWaitingForTheMan Wrote:  

(06-11-2012 01:55 PM)Kitsune Wrote:  Seriously?
Qualifications, where you're from, how many fights you've been in
? What a recipe for disaster.
I wrote in the forum improvement thread that I didn't understand why people would rather read a profile than ask someone. It is a discussion forum after all.

Besides, not knowing increases your critical thinking skills when reading posts. With anything on the internet you should question it before you implement it.

They would have it written into the forum rules that

Qualifications, where you're from, how many fights you've been in
? What a recipe for disaster.

Are absolutely not to be used to get into pissing contests. They are solely so that people can judge whether the poster is writing from Knowledge or Experience and nothing else. Gives us an idea of what makes people who they are.

This website is all about positive changes. Yet would you agree that who you are now is largely a product of your experiences from the past? I think you could only disagree with that sentence if you have debilitating amnesia.

I meant it'd be a disaster for other reasons.

I'm not sure anyone would be curious about me personally on this forum, but there is no way I'd put my qualifications, what city I was from and my hobbies and interests or work all on one page. The reason we get quality info here is because we're anonymous in our lifestyle pursuits.

The more info we give out, the more risky it is. That isn't to say 'don't post data' or whatever, but it is the difference between say, G-Manifesto and Roosh. Both are big forum contributors, only one of them gets chased down based on his current location.

Besides, personal questions are what PM's are for. This is all my opinion, so take it with a pinch of salt or leave it.

EDIT: And as far as whether someone is speaking from experience or not - you can't tell that from a profile anyway. I could put whatever I wanted on my profile and none of it might be accurate/from experience. People are going to have to read a person's posts and judge it/verify the information anyway, so I don't see the net gain.

Post: #30

I agree with Roosh and the overall sentiments expressed in this thread.

I spend 8 hours a day hard at work and then come home and chill out. That includes reading this forum. Between work, socialising and taking care of myself I don't have a lot of 'chill out' time, but I do like to spend at least some of it on this forum.

Most of my time here is spent just passively reading through the tonne of great Game knowledge and general discussion that is put out by users here. I do contribute when I can but, I admit, I'm often too knackered to post anything of true value and subsequently I don't want to clutter up the threads with meaningless nodding posts so my post count is a little low and it could be said that I take more than I give.

However, it does bug me when people get into little bitch fights with each other over topics. Firstly, it's because it doesn't actually add to the thread itself; rarely do people actually impart useful new knowledge during their arguments but instead they just go over the same points again and again. The second aspect makes me annoyed because I do think, 'who has the time to do this?'. Seriously, if you get bogged down so easily in an argument to protect your sensitive Internet ego on RVF and trying to prove how 'alpha' you are then fuck, you need some damn prospective in your life man! 'Cause you know who else argues on the Internet with people who they've never met? Lifeless omegas who invest their whole damn personalities under a single username. That's not very alpha at all, is it?

Post: #31

(06-11-2012 03:06 PM)Kitsune Wrote:  I meant it'd be a disaster for other reasons.

I'm not sure anyone would be curious about me personally on this forum, but there is no way I'd put my qualifications, what city I was from and my hobbies and interests or work all on one page. The reason we get quality info here is because we're anonymous in our lifestyle pursuits.

The more info we give out, the more risky it is. That isn't to say 'don't post data' or whatever, but it is the difference between say, G-Manifesto and Roosh. Both are big forum contributors, only one of them gets chased down based on his current location.

I don't think it has to be exact information.

Something as simple as:

Age: "Early 20's" or "Mid-30's"

From: "Midwest" or "NYC" or "Small Town Florida"

Things like that.

Just so you have a feel of who you are taking too.

Trust me, I am one of the biggest proponents of anonymity on here.

Yet still I think pretty much everyone on here knows the direction I am coming from.

Post: #32

Trying to be "alpha" on a web forum feels like people are overcompensating for something. It demonstrates a complete lack of flex to the point that you'd suspect the behaviour is just an act.

Post: #33

Is the problem with "alphas" or is it with "betas" who come out as if they know something?

How many years did guys argue about suits? Those are guys who never even wore a suit.

Then guys wear suits, and suddenly the arguments stop.

I don't even wear suits. It's not my thing. But I've been out in one and know it works. So I never had anything negative to say, even though it's not my scene.

There never even should have been an argument. It could have gone, "Have you gone out suited up? No? OK. Come back when you've tried it."

When guys ask even "stupid questions," they generally get a good response. You don't see many smack downs.

It's when guys who are clearly clueless come out guns blazing that there is drama.

And of course I'm reminded of a rule followed in most boxing gyms.

New guy who thinks he's got KO power and is doing everyone a favor: "How hard do you want to go?"
Vet: "I'll let you decide how hard we hit."

That's such a funny interaction, since the young guy always thinks he's going to set the pace. A guy who asks that is the one who is going to try to KO the vet.

You wanna come out slow and deliberative in the ring? You're not going to get lit up. Even in sparring the other guy is going to let you land some blows to help you out. Sure, you're gonna get hit...But that's part of the game.

If you come with attitude, then it's a different story. You learn right away who sets the pace.

The flip-side: The young guys who come in with attitude usually leave soon. They don't wanna give and take.

Guys who take some blows tend to be the ones who contribute the most.

Because, honestly, if a guy writing "mean words" on a message board makes you a sad panda, then The Game probably isn't going to work out

Post: #34

(06-11-2012 02:18 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  About bios, I for one would be very hesitant about filling it. It is a very fine line between providing good info about yourself and being recognized, particularly if you live in a small country where not many people discuss Game, and I would not rather cross that line for my own safety. Maybe I'm paranoid after what happened to Roosh, but I don't want to risk anything.

I don't agree with you on this. I'm from a small country but lets take a country with a really small population of only a few hundred thousand or a million. There are lots of them in Europe.
Do you really think a profile saying : man early twenties from iceland, Estonia or slovenia is gonna get recognized ?

I don't think so because there are still thousands of guys in their early twenties from those countries. But it would make a huge difference on this forum if someone was known to be from a certain country.

Post: #35

(06-11-2012 02:18 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I don't feel like KeyserSoze deserved a ban for that thread, he sure was persistent in his (perhaps!) wrongheaded view, but he wasn't insulting anyone. Or was he? Well, anyways... what's past is past.

About bios, I for one would be very hesitant about filling it. It is a very fine line between providing good info about yourself and being recognized, particularly if you live in a small country where not many people discuss Game, and I would not rather cross that line for my own safety. Maybe I'm paranoid after what happened to Roosh, but I don't want to risk anything.

Roosh said he was basically on notice for those threads. Keyser was operating on a completely blanket notion that no brain supplements(besides stimulants, which are not supplements) do anything at all. He stuck to his guns repeatedly, even after i started dropping research articles from pub med. There are definitely A Lot more studies where those came from, and tons others not based on the compounds that I was talking about.

He linked some NYT article that had absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about and used the fact that they took money from the manufacturers of the product to discredit it.

He showed he had no real background in this because he was attacking the fact money was involved, it's research, somebody has to pay for it after all. Researchers with more integrity are less swayed by corporate money. Some of them are funded by the government obviously has less bias than a pharmaceutical corporation.

The point he's missing is that doctors don't see all this online stuff, a point I hammered home, they see journals in print. These journals are by and large funded by the pharmaceutical industry.

They will absolutely bury any study showing a nutrient(fish oil just for example) beating say, prozac(for example). Even if the nutrient appears to be a little bit less effective, that still looks bad for them because the nutrient has virtually no side effects. A bit more broadly but still quite pertinent to that debate studies showing an older off-patent medicine beating a new one still on patent(the bigger cash cow.)also are consigned to the dustbin.

Post: #36

(06-11-2012 06:11 PM)ImWaitingForTheMan Wrote:  

(06-11-2012 02:18 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I don't feel like KeyserSoze deserved a ban for that thread, he sure was persistent in his (perhaps!) wrongheaded view, but he wasn't insulting anyone. Or was he? Well, anyways... what's past is past.

About bios, I for one would be very hesitant about filling it. It is a very fine line between providing good info about yourself and being recognized, particularly if you live in a small country where not many people discuss Game, and I would not rather cross that line for my own safety. Maybe I'm paranoid after what happened to Roosh, but I don't want to risk anything.

Roosh said he was basically on notice for those threads. Keyser was operating on a completely blanket notion that no brain supplements(besides stimulants, which are not supplements) do anything at all. He stuck to his guns repeatedly, even after i started dropping research articles from pub med. There are definitely A Lot more studies where those came from, and tons others not based on the compounds that I was talking about.

He linked some NYT article that had absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about and used the fact that they took money from the manufacturers of the product to discredit it.

He showed he had no real background in this because he was attacking the fact money was involved, it's research, somebody has to pay for it after all. Researchers with more integrity are less swayed by corporate money. Some of them are funded by the government obviously has less bias than a pharmaceutical corporation.

The point he's missing is that doctors don't see all this online stuff, a point I hammered home, they see journals in print. These journals are by and large funded by the pharmaceutical industry.

They will absolutely bury any study showing a nutrient(fish oil just for example) beating say, prozac(for example). Even if the nutrient appears to be a little bit less effective, that still looks bad for them because the nutrient has virtually no side effects. A bit more broadly but still quite pertinent to that debate studies showing an older off-patent medicine beating a new one still on patent(the bigger cash cow.)also are consigned to the dustbin.

I think I might try running this game in random med school cafeterias. Possible untapped market. She's hot now, could be my sugar momma 10 years down the road. All I'd need is a cane and a Vicodin addiction.

Post: #37

Dude, the guy is banned and you have proofed your point. Let it rest.

Post: #38

(06-11-2012 06:19 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  Dude, the guy is banned and you have proofed your point. Let it rest.

I would have let it rest but you made me roofie myself so i forgot that i made my point. What do you have to say for yourself?

Post: #39

(06-11-2012 07:55 PM)ImWaitingForTheMan Wrote:  

(06-11-2012 06:19 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  Dude, the guy is banned and you have proofed your point. Let it rest.

I would have let it rest but you made me roofie myself so i forgot that i made my point. What do you have to say for yourself?

Come into my brain supplement thread and let's talk about Geranium.

Post: #40

(06-11-2012 08:11 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(06-11-2012 07:55 PM)ImWaitingForTheMan Wrote:  

(06-11-2012 06:19 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  Dude, the guy is banned and you have proofed your point. Let it rest.

I would have let it rest but you made me roofie myself so i forgot that i made my point. What do you have to say for yourself?

Come into my brain supplement thread and let's talk about Geranium.

I can't deny that I'm damn well intrigued...just need to find the roofies I dropped. Meet you there in 5min. I'm not going anywhere with this 3x2inch blister on my foot. Will be trolling forum all damn night.

Shit. I need to get some scratch offs before 9pm with these draconian state laws. Ahhh the joys of being young, not dumb, unemployed(of course I am NOT taking benefits-for all you neo-cons out there.) and having a veritable pharmacy in the closet. What better way to spend a night you can't leave the house?

Post: #41

I wasn't aware that arguing on an internet forum was alpha.

Post: #42

This thread needs some Hydro

Post: #43

(06-11-2012 10:04 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  This thread needs some Hydro

Remember when he said he wanted to box Moma

Post: #44

(06-11-2012 06:00 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(06-11-2012 02:18 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  About bios, I for one would be very hesitant about filling it. It is a very fine line between providing good info about yourself and being recognized, particularly if you live in a small country where not many people discuss Game, and I would not rather cross that line for my own safety. Maybe I'm paranoid after what happened to Roosh, but I don't want to risk anything.

I don't agree with you on this. I'm from a small country but lets take a country with a really small population of only a few hundred thousand or a million. There are lots of them in Europe.
Do you really think a profile saying : man early twenties from iceland, Estonia or slovenia is gonna get recognized ?

I don't think so because there are still thousands of guys in their early twenties from those countries. But it would make a huge difference on this forum if someone was known to be from a certain country.

I don't know, Neil... when someone says "bio", I imagine a few things more detailed than just 20-something man from (country). Like, what you do for a living (not where you work, but general profession), experience with game, your red pill moment, etc - stuff that someone could extrapolate other things from.

But you do have a point. It's just that I'd probably be more at ease after I saw some bios first, particularly Roosh's.

Post: #45

It's a good idea to be 'beta' in certain scenarios. Nightlife comes to mind. If a guy steps on your toe or bumps into you, in a classy joint, 95% of the time, it was harmless and unintentional. Wouldn't necessarily say the same for a girl though...

Post: #46

(06-11-2012 09:59 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  I wasn't aware that arguing on an internet forum was alpha.

I kinda have to agree.
Trying to be "alpha" on the internet is more like being "beta"
Its pretty much bitching like a woman.
It doesn't matter to much..just let it go

Post: #47

(06-12-2012 05:05 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

(06-11-2012 09:59 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  I wasn't aware that arguing on an internet forum was alpha.

I kinda have to agree.
Trying to be "alpha" on the internet is more like being "beta"
Its pretty much bitching like a woman.
It doesn't matter to much..just let it go

Agreed. I know there are a lot of youngsters here but those childish arguments and the contrived "alphaness" are still cringe inducing.

Post: #48

(06-12-2012 01:42 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(06-11-2012 06:00 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(06-11-2012 02:18 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  About bios, I for one would be very hesitant about filling it. It is a very fine line between providing good info about yourself and being recognized, particularly if you live in a small country where not many people discuss Game, and I would not rather cross that line for my own safety. Maybe I'm paranoid after what happened to Roosh, but I don't want to risk anything.

I don't agree with you on this. I'm from a small country but lets take a country with a really small population of only a few hundred thousand or a million. There are lots of them in Europe.
Do you really think a profile saying : man early twenties from iceland, Estonia or slovenia is gonna get recognized ?

I don't think so because there are still thousands of guys in their early twenties from those countries. But it would make a huge difference on this forum if someone was known to be from a certain country.

I don't know, Neil... when someone says "bio", I imagine a few things more detailed than just 20-something man from (country). Like, what you do for a living (not where you work, but general profession), experience with game, your red pill moment, etc - stuff that someone could extrapolate other things from.

But you do have a point. It's just that I'd probably be more at ease after I saw some bios first, particularly Roosh's.

Yeah here is a sample bio:

"Early 20's, lives in the Midwest, just graduated college, collects cans for money, hates smoking, hates Custom Suits, Hates The G Manifesto, hates boxing, loves chain restaurants, loves Drake, loves wearing skinny jeans and Ed Hardy."

Something like that isn't too hard is it?

And it doesn't really give away the persons identity?

I mean, hell, that describes 99% of young American males.

Post: #49

See here is why we need bios:

/thread-13523-...#pid222910

I can't tell if I am talking to a 2 year old, or someone that doesn't speak English, or just someone with cement for brains?

Post: #50

(06-11-2012 10:09 PM)houston Wrote:  

(06-11-2012 10:04 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  This thread needs some Hydro

Remember when he said he wanted to box Moma

Once I take aggression tips from el mechanico and some boxing tips from the g manifesto, not a chance in a blue moon.