Post: #1

I went on a 2nd date with a girl last night. brought her back to my place, kissing, groping, things are going well. I went to unbutton her shirt and she says "clothes don't come off - it's only the 2nd date". eventually she unbuttoned her own shirt and let me suck on her breasts. in time I was able to get a hand down her pants, and then remove her pants. after I took off her pants she became visibly nervous. I slipped away for a minute to "get some water" and also grab some condoms from the other room. came back, made out some more, I went to slide off my pants and she says "no, that's not happening". I slow down again figuring I will change her mind.

then she says this: "I should probably tell you something. I only have sex when I'm in a committed relationship".

up to this point I felt comfortable, but now I had no idea what to do. I sat back as the mood had evaporated, and I had a vicious case of blue balls. some brief talking ensued. she backpedaled from "committed relationship" to just "dating", with her primary point being "this is our 2nd date, I don't even know you". she derived that she had "led me on" (her words, not mine). she said "I feel really bad" a bunch of times and then she got dressed and left.

I'm looking for general guidance as to how I could have turned the situation around after she dropped the "committed" bomb, or preferably how to have avoided her from saying it in the first place. at that point I lost control of the situation, as things started to get logical and generally not conducive to sex.

here are a few of my thoughts:

* I should have had the condoms way before that point, it was too risky to leave her alone to think after I had just removed her pants
* after I removed her pants, I should have slowed down for awhile in order to get her more aroused
* I should have guided her hand towards my crotch as that usually pushes them closer to the edge

note that, this aside, I like this girl's company better than most girls that I have dated recently, so I am considering seeing her again, but it may be challenging because she left with the assumption that I won't be calling her again.

Post: #2

I'll leave it to the more experience players to give some advice about what you should have done after she dropped the "committed relationship" bomb, but you shouldn't have let it come to that point. For me, I drop hints that I abide by the one-date rule: if she doesn't put out the first date, she should assume that that's it. In your case, it's not even the first date.

Post: #3

I've had that happen several times (I chalk that up to my "church girl" phase). I usually just say, "Thats cool, I just want you to be comfortable." Then I use a line about how many things we can enjoy that isn't "actual sex" and I set the condoms down on the nightstand DIRECTLY in her eyeline. This does two things. First, it makes her relieved that you aren't going to pressure her/be disappointed because of no sex. Second, she will know where the condoms are 15 minutes from now when she grabs them to fuck you.

From there, I start working my tongue from her ear down, spending a few seconds on different spots. When I hit the bellybutton, I almost lick it like I am eating pussy, but only for about 5 seconds, then I go lower. At this point, every time I have done it, they start pulling off their own jeans and panties and spread their legs to get their pussy eaten.

Here is the thing, get your head game working and eat the pussy well but STOP before making her cum. Do that back and forth about 3 times, taking her to the edge each time. While going down on her, get your own pants off, she will hardly notice. Go back up her body kissing and licking her. This time, she will be reved up and should feel your hard cock moving up her leg. Put her hand on your cock. Keep making out and lightly finger her pussy, again, not enough to make her cum, but enough to get her reved up.

Now, when she is really reved up and has your dick in her hand, STOP TOUCHING HER PUSSY. Keep making out with her though. 3 out of 4 times that I do this the chick grabs a condom off of the nightstand, puts it on me (sometimes they don't even bother with the condom), and hops on my cock. 1 out of 4 times I get AT LEAST a BJ or a handjob out of it.

Here is the thing, SHE WANTS TO FUCK YOU, but she has these bullshit rules. The fact that she is letting you finger her and suck on her titties tells you that, were it not for those rules, she would be DTF. Rather than trying to fight her on it, get her reved up and let her fight herself. Lets see how strong those rules are when her pussy is aching for release.

The best part of this is that if she does fuck you (75% chance in my experience) you didn't pressure her into shit. Your cock was in HER HAND when SHE GRABED THE CONDOM, wrapped you up and SHE PUT IT IN HER PUSSY.

Post: #4

Agree and persist.

"I also don't have sex until relationships. "

Keep breaking her down. One clothing item at a time. Get her lost in the "moment".

"Let me get a condom.. just in case.. just for rubbing. We don't have to have sex."