Post: #1

I am thinking of hiring a car for a few month while in Europe, something like Audi TT, BMW 3 or Peugeot RCZ.
I was wondering if having a sexy car would give me boost ,give me an edge with girls?

I know in Germany that is not a big deal, wouldnt bother with western countries anyway but I am talking abt Eastern Europe countries like Poland, Czech R,Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria, Ukraine?

I read on the other forum that in these countries you are what you drive, apparently it is status symbol so wouldn't it be smart to invest in decent car? My logic is that i ll be there for 2-3 months, it is short time so why not do everything you can to maximize yield?

Would it help much? What are your thoughts

Cheers

Post: #2

Hiring a TT for 3 months will cost $$$$! You'd be better off buying one in the UK for 4000GBP and selling it when you leave or leaving it for future trips ( I have a private driveway you can use if you wanted - UK ).

To answer your question: It certainly wouldn't hurt to have a nice car but it certainly is not necessary either. You're visiting the country so nobody expects you to bring your car with you. In Czech and Poland ( possibly Serbia too - I haven't been ) I doubt it would mean much at all having one, but in the Ukraine in a shit hole,yeah it would impress some girls. Honestly though save the hire money ( unless you are wealthy ) and spend that money on other things. Btw a TT / BMW 3 etc. in Russia in a smaller city would kill it IF you have game to go with it.

Here is a nice one in the UK for 4000GBP. Turn up with 3500 in cash and it would be yours,too expensive for most people to own these days so people are desperate to get rid of them.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-AUDI-TT-C...500wt_1202

Post: #3

4000 GBP thats a good price. Why it is so cheap?
What abt steering wheel on the other side? Is it legal?

Post: #4

(06-10-2012 02:04 PM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  4000 GBP thats a good price. Why it is so cheap?
What abt steering wheel on the other side? Is it legal?

Absolutely legal,driven to Russia myself.

Global crises mate,people are economising and TT's are luxuries.

Post: #5

Audi TT is a girls´car

Post: #6

Are you going to be running "sugar daddy" game?

The only problem with renting a luxury car to roll around in a place like Ukraine is that you will attract a lot of gold diggers who will want to screw you over.

Then again, maybe this is not a "problem."

Post: #7

Short answer: no.

The reason can be applied to guys with nice cars in general...

1. Are you going to approach girls from the car (i.e. street game)?
2. If not, are you going to drop the car in conversation soon after your approach? Take a guess to the kind of girls that will primarily attract.

If you're staying long term, such a car might strengthen your provider game. EE girls want providers so if you want to broadcast your husband value, it will help. But if you're there for a few months just to have fun, the car will not give you as many benefits as..

1. Approaching with the right game
2. Nice apartment in centrally located area
3. Threads that are better than the local guys
4. A body that is in shape

If you're trying to drop some cash, choice number 2 is your best bet. EE girls will often ask "Where are you staying?" This is a great opportunity to build value in the form of living alone in a nearby apartment. They NEVER ask "Do you have a car?" Trying to drop your Audi in a conversation would be comical and try-hard.

Post: #8

The markup on cars is ridiculous in EE. Same with nice clothes.

If you want to have either you should bring it with you.

Post: #9

4k pounds for a TT is cheap indeed. The same here would easily go double if not more. But one major concern about having a nice car in EE is that of safety. That is the risk of the car being in greater risk of being stolen or worst the thugs there attacking you...thoughts on that?

Post: #10

(06-10-2012 04:49 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  4k pounds for a TT is cheap indeed. The same here would easily go double if not more. But one major concern about having a nice car in EE is that of safety. That is the risk of the car being in greater risk of being stolen or worst the thugs there attacking you...thoughts on that?

In Russia and Belarus there are safe car parks everywhere that are cheap to use. I never had any damage done to my car when I drove out there in fact the opposite: locals were fascinated by a right hand drive car and would do double takes when I would drive past. I've never been targeted by thugs in the FSU before even whilst walking around with my big dslr and I-pad etc. Quite the opposite in fact,everyone had always been friendly and hospitable towards me.

Post: #11

Russia you can be targeted. I lost a camera in St Petersburg when I was there. It was in a carry case I had slung over my shoulder. The way it was done was I was waiting for some lights to cross the road on Nevsky Prospect. A guy moved in front of me and when the light turned green he stood there blocking my way making me push past him. Meanwhile while jostling to get past this guy a second guy cut the carry case I had and swiped it. All this was done within 5 seconds and it was very professional the way they did it. I say it took around 5 seconds because I noticed 5 second after bumping into this guy that it was gone.

Lost my camera but the guy who blocked me got a few decent smacks in the face before a crowd broke it up and he disappeared. Pissed me off but I managed to get back $200 more than I paid for the camera with insurance so long run it worked out ok. Don't be fooled for one second over there. You need to stay alert because in the big cities they have some very talented pickpockets/thieves that will hit you without you knowing. Aside from that incident though it was very safe over there.

Post: #12

I have friends that are from balkans(serbia and bosnia), some of them live there and some of them live in western countries and just go there for a vacation. They all say the same thing that is if you drive a nice car you could get laid easily, plus having the latest mobile phone and brand name cloths is what matters, they go crazy for designer brands. It is not like in America where everyone cld buy anything even with crappy job, these countries have unemployment of 25-45% and those lucky ones that do work earn $4-6k a year and dont forget in many instances ppl work and dont get paid or get their paycheck 6 months later, unheard of in many parts of the world. It is very hard for western guys to conseptualize this unless you have been living there.
I know it might sound superficial but thats how it is, my conclusion is the poorer the country the easier it it to get a root, and also the poorer the country more obsessed they are with brands names.

Post: #13

(06-10-2012 01:38 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  Hiring a TT for 3 months will cost $$$$! You'd be better off buying one in the UK for 4000GBP and selling it when you leave or leaving it for future trips ( I have a private driveway you can use if you wanted - UK ).

To answer your question: It certainly wouldn't hurt to have a nice car but it certainly is not necessary either. You're visiting the country so nobody expects you to bring your car with you. In Czech and Poland ( possibly Serbia too - I haven't been ) I doubt it would mean much at all having one, but in the Ukraine in a shit hole,yeah it would impress some girls. Honestly though save the hire money ( unless you are wealthy ) and spend that money on other things. Btw a TT / BMW 3 etc. in Russia in a smaller city would kill it IF you have game to go with it.

Here is a nice one in the UK for 4000GBP. Turn up with 3500 in cash and it would be yours,too expensive for most people to own these days so people are desperate to get rid of them.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-AUDI-TT-C...500wt_1202

Wow, things that bad in the UK these days that a 4K car is considered expensive.?

Post: #14

(06-10-2012 11:43 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Wow, things that bad in the UK these days that a 4K car is considered expensive.?

Well to some yes but it's not the purchase price that gets you but the insurance costs on them and the price of petrol. In the UK we pay £1.40 for a litre which when your car only does 16 miles to the gallon is a lot of money. Therefore people who own TT's are desperate to sell them,the problem is nobody wants them so prices can be bargained down. Fuel costs in Russia is very cheap as is insurance so if you wanted a car to use over there then a TT makes sense.

Post: #15

I might get this one 50 bucks a day, brand new

Post: #16

(06-10-2012 11:12 PM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  I have friends that are from balkans(serbia and bosnia), some of them live there and some of them live in western countries and just go there for a vacation. They all say the same thing that is if you drive a nice car you could get laid easily, plus having the latest mobile phone and brand name cloths is what matters, they go crazy for designer brands......

I know it might sound superficial but thats how it is, my conclusion is the poorer the country the easier it it to get a root, and also the poorer the country more obsessed they are with brands names.

Right listen up before you go spending money on a hire car....

This forum has plenty of members who have been to both EE and FSU plenty of times and gotten laid with decent women. I'm willing to bet 99.9% of them did it without having a sports car with them. In the list of things that gets you laid in EE,a flash car is way,way down the list. As Roosh pointed out,how does a girl in a club know you have a nice car parked back at your apartment? They don't and the truth is if they did they would not be getting wet at the thought of it.

I don't know if you have been to EE but if you go to Bucharest/Kiev/Prague etc. you will see plenty of nice cars,people are not as poor as it seems you are possibly imagining and also not quite as motivated by cash as you imagine. This is not the early 90's when women wanted a way out. Many girls in the cities now have incomes that allow them to go clubbing and a beach holiday once a year,your car won't really mean much to them. Example: I have been to areas of Belarus where the monthly income was about $200,where the town is half abandoned due to being irradiated,where there is no job option other then working knee high in cow shit in the local Kolkhoz farm and I never got laid or even any kind of interest from the local women on the streets. In fact I would say I got more hostile looks then IOI's so your poverty=easy lays theory does not ring true. I pretty much guarantee you would find it easier getting laid in your own country then EE.

The only way a car will help is if you stay in one city for a few months and get known as the guy with the nice car which will intrigue some types to want to know you. I'd say Russia would be best for that.

Spend the money instead on a language course and you will get more lays out of that then you would a by having a car with no language skills.

Post: #17

The nice car game is perfect for Croatia (women there are real golddiggers). Having a nice car helps for second dates and if you want to make sure she will be interested in meeting up for the second time. Remember that you will be attracting golddiggers here and you may run the risk of playing the provider role.

In my opinion, you should only rent a car if you are making serious money but as Roosh said, if i were you, i would be more interested in getting an apartment in a centrally located area.

Post: #18

Never get a nice car because you think it will impress the chicks. a) chicks don't know shit about cars, b) as Roosh says how exactly is it going to help? c) it's not alpha.

If you really want a car, get one that you would enjoy driving. The autobahns are full of A6's, but I think A3's are really nice to drive if you don't need the boot space. If you want to look like a mafia tough get a Porsche Cayenne. Cool to drive would be a 911 or a Z3 (which I think looks cooler than a Z5).

Post: #19

If you are going to a major city, you will not stand out with just a "nice" car. You need a car that costs 6 figures to impress people there. I was recently in Moscow and in front of some clubs and restaurants there was a 3-deep line of cars parked obnoxiously on the sidewalk, with the average being an S-class Mercedes. Plenty of Bentleys, Maseratis, etc. too.
Even in poorer countries like Bulgaria, in the hot places of the capital Sofia or at the good clubs at the beach local thugs roll in Porsche Cayenne's, Audi Q7 SUV's, etc. You will get lost in this crowd with your TT, and it might well get stolen, scratched, rims missing, or something else, and this will mean trouble with your insurance because it may not provide full coverage in these countries.

You will only make an impression with a nice car in second and third tier cities.
Also, with what it will cost you in rental, insurance, gas, etc. you might as well go buying presents Greek Kamaki-style. Cheaper and more efficient.

Post: #20

(06-11-2012 04:52 AM)K-man Wrote:  If you are going to a major city, you will not stand out with just a "nice" car. You need a car that costs 6 figures to impress people there. I was recently in Moscow and in front of some clubs and restaurants there was a 3-deep line of cars parked obnoxiously on the sidewalk, with the average being an S-class Mercedes. Plenty of Bentleys, Maseratis, etc. too.
Even in poorer countries like Bulgaria, in the hot places of the capital Sofia or at the good clubs at the beach local thugs roll in Porsche Cayenne's, Audi Q7 SUV's, etc. You will get lost in this crowd with your TT, and it might well get stolen, scratched, rims missing, or something else, and this will mean trouble with your insurance because it may not provide full coverage in these countries.

You will only make an impression with a nice car in second and third tier cities.
Also, with what it will cost you in rental, insurance, gas, etc. you might as well go buying presents Greek Kamaki-style. Cheaper and more efficient.

LOL. Yeah, the club promoters hire the cars to park outside the club at night because it looks cool. I've seen that done lots.

BTW, Q7's are pretty common in the Czech Republic, but IMHO they are impractical, not quite an SUV, not quite an estate, not quite a sports car.

Post: #21

I drive a pretty new Porsche and I don't feel like it has helped me at all when hooking up with girls, even EE girls. At best, it's more of a 'your car is beautiful' moment due to the fact that I don't bring it up in conversations. Although I do get some hank moody comparisons, haha.

There's 1 thing that helps you, but that doesn't really depend on how nice your car is at all: Logistics. You can pick them up when they're too broke to get a cab and busses aren't running anymore.

Post: #22

I was gonna hire a car anyway as I need it, public transport is impractical and low level for men in his 30s and cabs are gonna cost me fortune, I ll do a lot of driving. Cheapest I can get is a little shitbox that cost abt 30 bucks a day so I thought add 20 bucks to get something flashier, I know it will get overshadowed by top of the line mercs and beemers.
I know there is a lot of golddiggers in EE, I never saw women from russia, serbia, croatia pay for anything, it is always a man she is with who foots the bill.

Post: #23

I would have recommended the follow thread title to get more helpful tips since you are going to go through with the decision no matter what we say: "How can I leverage a luxury car in Eastern Europe?"

Post: #24

(06-11-2012 09:23 AM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  I was gonna hire a car anyway as I need it, public transport is impractical and low level for men in his 30s and cabs are gonna cost me fortune, I ll do a lot of driving. Cheapest I can get is a little shitbox that cost abt 30 bucks a day so I thought add 20 bucks to get something flashier, I know it will get overshadowed by top of the line mercs and beemers.
I know there is a lot of golddiggers in EE, I never saw women from russia, serbia, croatia pay for anything, it is always a man she is with who foots the bill.

Cabs are cheap in EE. They are also convenient since you don't have to worry about parking or bribes for the militsiya when they pull you over.

Post: #25

(06-11-2012 09:23 AM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  I was gonna hire a car anyway as I need it, public transport is impractical and low level for men in his 30s and cabs are gonna cost me fortune, I ll do a lot of driving. Cheapest I can get is a little shitbox that cost abt 30 bucks a day so I thought add 20 bucks to get something flashier, I know it will get overshadowed by top of the line mercs and beemers.
I know there is a lot of golddiggers in EE, I never saw women from russia, serbia, croatia pay for anything, it is always a man she is with who foots the bill.

That is a huge misconception,maybe that is the case in America or Australia.

Public transport is widespread and well-organised in most European cities and is a quick way of transport,often faster than the car.
It's definetely not considered as low level, to tell you the truth,not just the "average" citizen but businessman use it too,and not just in Eastern but in Western Europe(in particular) too.
Also commuting by bike is getting more popular nowadays,some companies even pay for it.

However, it is your choice,just avoid this false statement.