Post: #1

Seems like I have no problem getting girls to talk to me, go places with me, etc. but when it comes down to it, they're definitely not serious about fucking so I feel like I'm wasting my time. I gotta be doing something wrong if they're more concerned about dancing around in circles or talking to their retarded "friends" rather than fucking me. It's starting to get really annoying.

I need some kind of method where I can find out if a bitch is serious about fucking ASAP, or stop wasting my time. What do you guys do?

Post: #2

escalate both physically and verbally earlier on. make your intentions clear both physically and verbally.

Post: #3

(06-09-2012 03:04 AM)HiFlo Wrote:  escalate both physically and verbally earlier on. make your intentions clear both physically and verbally.

This. I never meet up with a girl if I haven't made it 110% clear that I am not her buddy, and that I am going to fuck her. If I talk to a girl for 10 minutes at a bar/club, she already knows this. I don't want to waste time with a girl who isn't open to sexual advances or is a prude. Maybe I don't seal the deal, but at least I know I got a shot.

Post: #4

What do you say verbaly?

Post: #5

HiFlo's and RioNomad's advice is spot on. Just be aggressive right off the bat and she'll know what's up

Post: #6

(06-09-2012 05:44 AM)TheMan Wrote:  What do you say verbaly?

uh, well, "you're a cutie" for starters.

Post: #7

Also make sure that at the end of you the date, you always go for the kiss. This is utmost important, can't stress on it enough. And this is the only sure-shot way to know whether she sees you just as a friend or something more.

Post: #8

Be more aggressive and ballsy, like guys are saying. You need to "filter" out the girls who are not dtf.

"DTF Filters" are a great topic.

Post: #9

1. Meet girls at clubs/bars (at hello they know you want to hook up), I no longer believe in "lines" but rather simply talking confidently/not scared.
2. Day game touch them within 15mins (elbow, shoulder, etc.) and veer conversation to dating/sex if they mention "another man" very quickly you're cashed. If you can get her to ask about your past relationships or also touch you, you're in the money
3. Use girls who friend zone you to steal her friends, if she is unwilling to quasi hook you up delete her phone number and move on
4. Assume every girl you meet wants to have sex and treat as such, i have a handful of actual "friends that are girls" and only keep them around because they either A. wing with me or B. have hooked me up with their friends before. Other than that delete, next!

Agree with Gio DTF filters would be a great topic, my only issue with that is assume every girl wants to bang! Fuck it! Got nothing to lose from going for a kiss, if you fail please see #4 again, NEXT!

Post: #10

You are getting friendzoned.

Read the existing threads about friendzoning and kino escalation-lots of good info there.

You have to learn to be ruthless in focusing on the girls who are ready to fuck.

I agree we need a master thread on the DTF filter, both in terms of what signs to look for and what questions/conversation topics to use.

I recall Roosh did an article a while back on statements he developed to use as a DTF filter. The girl's reaction to the statement is used to judge whether she is DTF.

Post: #11

yeah roosh used the question "when was the last time you had sex?". If the response "2 weeks" was sort of the green light.

Post: #12

(06-09-2012 09:58 AM)haywire Wrote:  Also make sure that at the end of you the date, you always go for the kiss. This is utmost important, can't stress on it enough. And this is the only sure-shot way to know whether she sees you just as a friend or something more.

Been on a couple dates where they wouldn't kiss or make out on the first date. And as a result things never went anywhere with them. This is after plenty of touching/hugging during the date.

I am starting to believe this is a deal-breaker. If she doesn't make out with me first night (second meet), then I'm done with her.

What do the rest of you guys think? Have you guys had a chick who recovers from this and becomes more dtf?

Post: #13

(06-09-2012 12:01 AM)Vitriol Wrote:  Seems like I have no problem getting girls to talk to me, go places with me, etc. but when it comes down to it, they're definitely not serious about fucking so I feel like I'm wasting my time. I gotta be doing something wrong if they're more concerned about dancing around in circles or talking to their retarded "friends" rather than fucking me. It's starting to get really annoying.

Here is the strange thing: You are actually doing something right.

Personally, I have the absolute opposite issue. I don't have any issue closing, my whole trick is to get them to roll with me.

So, what are you doing mostly?

Breakdown your Game Style.

Because you are doing things right.

You just need to close better.

Post: #14

What age range are these girls and where are you meeting them?

Post: #15

Are you touching on them while out on the date? You really need to let it be known what you want. Don't worry about being to aggressive, just don't hop on her or anything like that

Post: #16

I could see this being a problem if you meet the girl during the day.

Your problem may be fearing that you might "blow it" if you don't state your attraction to her. You really have to risk full rejection.