(07-18-2012 10:16 AM)southeastbeast87 Wrote:  Then, I came across Patrice O'Neal's radio show he had called The Black Phillip show where he talked about girls and their bullshit. Discovering this show was amazing. It really helped me to see women's bullshit. The show and this forum and swift kick to the nuts I needed. The two piece by a heavy weight champion.

The. Black. Philip. Show.

A rarely-quoted treasure trove of information about how to handle a woman. While he makes a few incorrect analyses here and there and spends most of his phone time talking to total schlubs and omegas, the vast majority of his content is some high-technology stuff.

Additionally, the show carries two particular qualities:

1) Absolute, aggressive, gangsterism to shake you out of your bitch beta self if it crops back up. Been a little soft lately and need to get your hardass back on? Pop on about two hours of Black Philip and you'll be back better than ever. One time I was heavy into cycling through the MP3s I torrented (I would PAY decent money for them if I could, no joke) and I called a pretty white girl a bitch the first day I met her. Of course I went on a date with her. (I didn't pull right, but to be fair, she was pretty much acting like a man on the whole date and I lost interest midway through.)

2) The guy is FUNNY. Drop dead hilarious. Even if you were an expert at game and didn't need the advice at all, the entire shows are a riot through and through. I've lost my shit more times than I can count listening to him rage or yell at guests.

There's something like 13 episodes available on a torrent, and they run about 2 hours each. 26 hours of gangbuster caveman game, delivered in the most hilarious package possible? Yes. Five stars.

EDIT: pardon for derailing topic, but TBPS needs to be kudos'd.

(07-18-2012 09:14 PM)aphelion Wrote:  

(07-18-2012 10:16 AM)southeastbeast87 Wrote:  Then, I came across Patrice O'Neal's radio show he had called The Black Phillip show where he talked about girls and their bullshit. Discovering this show was amazing. It really helped me to see women's bullshit. The show and this forum and swift kick to the nuts I needed. The two piece by a heavy weight champion.

The. Black. Philip. Show.

A rarely-quoted treasure trove of information about how to handle a woman. While he makes a few incorrect analyses here and there and spends most of his phone time talking to total schlubs and omegas, the vast majority of his content is some high-technology stuff.

Additionally, the show carries two particular qualities:

1) Absolute, aggressive, gangsterism to shake you out of your bitch beta self if it crops back up. Been a little soft lately and need to get your hardass back on? Pop on about two hours of Black Philip and you'll be back better than ever. One time I was heavy into cycling through the MP3s I torrented (I would PAY decent money for them if I could, no joke) and I called a pretty white girl a bitch the first day I met her. Of course I went on a date with her. (I didn't pull right, but to be fair, she was pretty much acting like a man on the whole date and I lost interest midway through.)

2) The guy is FUNNY. Drop dead hilarious. Even if you were an expert at game and didn't need the advice at all, the entire shows are a riot through and through. I've lost my shit more times than I can count listening to him rage or yell at guests.

There's something like 13 episodes available on a torrent, and they run about 2 hours each. 26 hours of gangbuster caveman game, delivered in the most hilarious package possible? Yes. Five stars.

EDIT: pardon for derailing topic, but TBPS needs to be kudos'd.

You are totally fucking right about what you said about The Black Phillip Show. I like they was you broke the show down. I couldn't have done it better myself. I be trying to tell my cousins about this shit; but they are so beta that they just be like that shit don't work. I be like fuck it. You guys keep being scared of bitches and letting them take you for bad. lol The show was thing that got me to swallow the red pill. I love this show so much that I posted a thread about the show with some of the best clips and sourcecode posted in the thread with the youtube link that has all 26 episodes. You don't have to worry about paying. Check it out man:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-14116-...#pid234176

I am curious though...what are some incorrect analyses that Patrice makes? I'm not saying you are wrong. I am just wondering so I can be on the up and up.

To be honest, I don't even know what "red pill" means...but I know about hollerin' at chicks. Basically, in high school this girl I liked was scooped up by someone more aggressive than me and it happened again in college. After that, it was all about "pumping and dumping". I hung out with some Detroit guys in college and they were always on the puss hunt. After college, all we did was travel (USA & Canada mainly) looking for small towns or areas that were untapped in order to game chicks. We would welcome new guys to the circle but if you didn't pull your weight with the chicks, we would not ask you come with us on future trips. Casualties included my nephew who was only 4 years younger than me. He didn't approach enough and he was left back.

A lot of our success was in Canada (mainly Toronto area) before Toronto was exposed to more mainstream USA television and music...back when just SAYING that your American was enough to make panties drop.

(07-19-2012 08:57 AM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  To be honest, I don't even know what "red pill" means...but I know about hollerin' at chicks. Basically, in high school this girl I liked was scooped up by someone more aggressive than me and it happened again in college. After that, it was all about "pumping and dumping". I hung out with some Detroit guys in college and they were always on the puss hunt. After college, all we did was travel (USA & Canada mainly) looking for small towns or areas that were untapped in order to game chicks. We would welcome new guys to the circle but if you didn't pull your weight with the chicks, we would not ask you come with us on future trips. Casualties included my nephew who was only 4 years younger than me. He didn't approach enough and he was left back.

A lot of our success was in Canada (mainly Toronto area) before Toronto was exposed to more mainstream USA television and music...back when just SAYING that your American was enough to make panties drop.

Have you seen the movie The Matrix? Morpheus asked Neo did he want to take the blue pill or the red pill. If Neo took the blue pill then he would stay dealing with the bullshit in this world...the artificial shit. Or Neo could take the red pill and see the real shit...get the truth and become a better individual. When a guy takes the red pill when it comes to women, he decides that he isn't going to deal with the bullshit with women anymore. He isn't going to take shit from the anymore and become the alpha he was meant to be. Unfortunately, a lot of guys haven't taken the red pill. They are content with dealing with women's lies, buying them shit, taken them out on 12 dates without getting any pussy and the like.

the problem I have with the phrase "red pill" is that any time you "think" you understand reality, that's dangerous. You could be deluding yourself into just another false perception.

And so it is, I think, for many guys into game. It's just becomes another stupid mindset.

When I deluded myself into liking this one chick who would constantly throw herself at one of my 'friends' who was a selfish douche bag with no job and no license and who the rest of us constantly had to pick up the slack for.

(07-19-2012 05:40 PM)southeastbeast87 Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 08:57 AM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  To be honest, I don't even know what "red pill" means...but I know about hollerin' at chicks. Basically, in high school this girl I liked was scooped up by someone more aggressive than me and it happened again in college. After that, it was all about "pumping and dumping". I hung out with some Detroit guys in college and they were always on the puss hunt. After college, all we did was travel (USA & Canada mainly) looking for small towns or areas that were untapped in order to game chicks. We would welcome new guys to the circle but if you didn't pull your weight with the chicks, we would not ask you come with us on future trips. Casualties included my nephew who was only 4 years younger than me. He didn't approach enough and he was left back.

A lot of our success was in Canada (mainly Toronto area) before Toronto was exposed to more mainstream USA television and music...back when just SAYING that your American was enough to make panties drop.

Have you seen the movie The Matrix? Morpheus asked Neo did he want to take the blue pill or the red pill. If Neo took the blue pill then he would stay dealing with the bullshit in this world...the artificial shit. Or Neo could take the red pill and see the real shit...get the truth and become a better individual. When a guy takes the red pill when it comes to women, he decides that he isn't going to deal with the bullshit with women anymore. He isn't going to take shit from the anymore and become the alpha he was meant to be. Unfortunately, a lot of guys haven't taken the red pill. They are content with dealing with women's lies, buying them shit, taken them out on 12 dates without getting any pussy and the like.

Good definition.

What are the most important beliefs of one who has swallowed the red pill? I feel there should be a manifesto or something...

(01-15-2014 09:23 PM)bigxxx Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 05:40 PM)southeastbeast87 Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 08:57 AM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  To be honest, I don't even know what "red pill" means...but I know about hollerin' at chicks. Basically, in high school this girl I liked was scooped up by someone more aggressive than me and it happened again in college. After that, it was all about "pumping and dumping". I hung out with some Detroit guys in college and they were always on the puss hunt. After college, all we did was travel (USA & Canada mainly) looking for small towns or areas that were untapped in order to game chicks. We would welcome new guys to the circle but if you didn't pull your weight with the chicks, we would not ask you come with us on future trips. Casualties included my nephew who was only 4 years younger than me. He didn't approach enough and he was left back.

A lot of our success was in Canada (mainly Toronto area) before Toronto was exposed to more mainstream USA television and music...back when just SAYING that your American was enough to make panties drop.

Have you seen the movie The Matrix? Morpheus asked Neo did he want to take the blue pill or the red pill. If Neo took the blue pill then he would stay dealing with the bullshit in this world...the artificial shit. Or Neo could take the red pill and see the real shit...get the truth and become a better individual. When a guy takes the red pill when it comes to women, he decides that he isn't going to deal with the bullshit with women anymore. He isn't going to take shit from the anymore and become the alpha he was meant to be. Unfortunately, a lot of guys haven't taken the red pill. They are content with dealing with women's lies, buying them shit, taken them out on 12 dates without getting any pussy and the like.

Good definition.

What are the most important beliefs of one who has swallowed the red pill? I feel there should be a manifesto or something...

If we had a manifesto, we'd be no different (and no less dangerous) than feminists. The beautiful thing about our movement is that there are a significant range of beliefs within the red-pill community and yet, there is enough agreement to suggest an actual movement. But to establish a set list of beliefs that are intrinsic, would undermine the value of this movement, as one that is free thinking and open to intellectual challenge.

Roosh's non-acceptance of certain views is based in the fact that they are logic-less and played out.

^

OK. So what is there 'enough agreement' on ? That's what id like to know.

The same way all the different christians can at least agree on Christ, what can all red pillers agree on? There has to be something for it to have any meaning.

During my late teens i already suspected what was going on. I had no game though, so I couldn't really materialize on it. It really hit me when i was fighting my way out of depression some time ago. Great moment.

When I facebook messaged a girl to meet, went with my animal instinct and got my first blowjob (14 y.o.). It made me realize women were horny like men, but were just a bit weird about showing their sexuality.

When my ex-girlfriend left me and I felt like an idiot. Then I realised that something is 'off' in my way of thinking. Luckily, I found this forum whre I have been 'lurking around' and learning ever since.

The utter vindictiveness of a woman rejected.

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned".

I was on a Spring Break trip in Cancun and didn't make a move on a really cute, drunk Montreal girl when I had her isolated in her hotel room. It was cause she had a boyfriend, and I figured she wasn't the type of girl who would be the one to cheat. She seemed wholesome and whatnot.

I later saw her making out with our trip coordinator, and got to hear from him the next morning in explicit detail how he and her fucked on the beach until sunrise.

#YesAllWomenAreLikeThat

HSLD

I have a shameful one. Not long ago I was like a walking&talking blue pill. I thought being a white knight would get me laid eventually. I had this close female friend who was very cute and funny, I always had a thing for her and I went to meet her whenever she asked me to. Lately she was talking about this popular, cool guy in her university that gave out an asshole vibe but yet hang out with a different girl every day. He was surrounded by popularity and pussy, and my friend, although never having met him, was intrigued.

One day she came to me, crying, telling me that she went on an innocent date with that guy and ended up fucking him, a one night stand, only to never hear from him again. Turkish girls have very low dick counts, so that was a big thing for her. Plus she paid for the whole date, which wasn't cheap. I was very touched by her tears, so I comforted her all day, paid for everything, even bought her a new sim card so that she would get a fresh start from all the bad guys. We even deleted all the ''bad guys'' from her facebook friend list together. She promised me to be a good girl from now on and thanked me for everything.

The next week she contacted him and fucked him again.

That was the moment I started choking on my blue pill. Everything I believed was a lie. I had unintentionally and unknowingly proved the golden rule of ''Alpha fucks beta bucks''.

3 months later I discovered Bang Ukraine. I contacted Roosh in that excitement and he was responsive, that led me to think he is for real and sincere, and I did more digging and started reading his blog and eventually ended up here.

10 months later from my latest blue pill incident, I ended up on the other side of the golden rool. I took the virginity of a HOT 19 year old Polish girl who had a boyfriend of 2 years. She didn't wanna see my face again, but I didn't care. I had just invented the wheel. Welcome to red pill.

The moral of the story: You either die a white knight, or you got hurt for long enough to see yourself become a red pill guy.

Before I took the red pill, I was in an unhappy marriage. I had come to realize she actually thought well of me, enjoyed spending time with me, bragged about my job to her coworkers, and enthusiastically shared some of my interests, but she wasn't sexually attracted to me at all. Recognizing this difference of liking me but not being hot for me set the stage.
Then I ran across some red pill material about saving a failing marriage, and it said the key to rekindling the marriage is to re-establish attraction, using the same techniques as players use to pick up women.
I knew that PUA and players existed, but I was always a little skeptical, and I didn't see how this mattered to me as a married man. Once I realized that confidence, strength, fitness, aggressiveness, and dominance are all panty moisteners, the red pill clicked for me. One other key was learning about shit tests, and how these are really fitness tests, because the woman wants the man to show his dominance.
Once I saw how women are actually attracted to masculine strength, I could see how society had always encouraged me to downplay these aspects of myself, to the point where I though male aggressiveness and dominance were bad, and had completely failed to develop them in myself. I realized that I had always had an aggressive and dominant aspect of my personality, and it was just dormant and atrophied. I started to develop these traits in myself, and admire them in other men who I previously viewed as dicks.
While I saw immediate results, I've still been learning new red pill lessons ever since (three years now).

Early on in my legal drinking days and still wet behind the ears in picking up girls in bars/clubs, a girl obnoxiously attempted to skip me in line at the bar. I pointed out her rudeness and she looked at me incredulous and walked away. My older, trust-fund beta friend told me she was wanting me to buy her a drink. I told him, "Fuck that and fuck her. I'm not buying that bitch a drink."

He bought her one. Her friends joined with my friends but I was cold to her most the night. My friend kept buying them rounds. The girl gave me her number and told me to Facebook her. My friend spent who knows how much on drinks for them and got nothing in return.

Eight years and I have yet to buy a female stranger a drink.

Well I was at this bar having a drink with my mates. I was at the bar counter and a woman bumped into me, thus spilling some of my drink on me. I said, "Hey, watch where you are going." She said to me, "you're such a dick." I then called her a bitch and went about my night. As soon as I stepped outside, there were 30 white knight mangina ninjas waiting to defend this girls honor. Having just read an article by Thirty Days to X about Why I need to learn boxing, I was prepared for battle. I weaved in and out of the mangina hordes TKOing each of them with one punch until all but one remained. The last remaining mangina was the biggest of them all, their leader. I performed the classic Mortal Kombat fatality of decapitating him with an uppercut sending him straight to the bowels of Hell. However, this fight has nothing to do with the post.

I returned inside the bar to tell everyone what had just happened. In the meantime, I ordered a beer. I held the beer by my side since my arm was tired in a contrapposto style pose. It was while standing in this pose that the women in the bar flocked to me, offering themselves up to me. It was as if I was channeling my alphaness to everyone in the bar with this pose. It was then, at this point, that I knew the red pill was real.

(12-06-2014 05:45 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  Well I was at this bar having a drink with my mates. I was at the bar counter and a woman bumped into me, thus spilling some of my drink on me. I said, "Hey, watch where you are going." She said to me, "you're such a dick." I then called her a bitch and went about my night. As soon as I stepped outside, there were 30 white knight mangina ninjas waiting to defend this girls honor. Having just read an article by Thirty Days to X about Why I need to learn boxing, I was prepared for battle. I weaved in and out of the mangina hordes TKOing each of them with one punch until all but one remained. The last remaining mangina was the biggest of them all, their leader. I performed the classic Mortal Kombat fatality of decapitating him with an uppercut sending him straight to the bowels of Hell. However, this fight has nothing to do with the post.

I returned inside the bar to tell everyone what had just happened. In the meantime, I ordered a beer. I held the beer by my side since my arm was tired in a contrapposto style pose. It was while standing in this pose that the women in the bar flocked to me, offering themselves up to me. It was as if I was channeling my alphaness to everyone in the bar with this pose. It was then, at this point, that I knew the red pill was real.

My only regret is that I have but one like to give.

I had no idea what red pill was, what game was or whatever you'd call it. Late 90s is the time and I am in High School. I'm not a beggar but I was inexperienced with girls and girls were just...there. I knew they were manipulative give me that much credit.

I always saw the tough guys getting attention. My year especially. The girls would lust after them, eye fuck them and they were the hot ones, the average, the smart, the average.

These guys were just outright aggressive, some smart, some dumb. Detentions were their curriculum. And yet they were getting these good girls or the dumb bitches. Hell two guys had others fighting over them. I never had a woman fight over me.

Looking back on it now I can laugh. I never really trusted them so I had little to lose as I got older. My ignorance towards them insulated me and allowed me to grow before I entered the arena and here I am now with a lot of experience and exasperation's towards other men who for all other purposes should know better.

My most significant red pill awakening happened to me literally weeks ago:

After seeing/dating (or atleast I thought) a girl for 3.5 months, was mostly long distance, but still talking everyday and what not, flew out to visit me after a 1.5 months in, her telling me how amazing I am and how lucky she is to have met me, I got hit by the red pill freight train when she flew out to visit me a second time.

She goes on to refuse me sex the first night, says to me she was "clear" this was only casual. Im of course caught off guard, I feel like iv been punched in the gut. Next day I tell her to get a hotel as she agrees as well. Havent heard a word from her since.

The next friday before she flew back to America I see her on city bikes with another dude. Man that fucking stung. I felt like throwing up.

It was from this experience where I realized how real red pill thinking is.
The true nature of women- Female Hypergamy.
Its not a belief, its not a theory, its fucking reality. I had been exposed to red pill before, but I never took all of it seriously. I thought there were shades of grey, unique situations that dont always apply( in my case I had this belief) and where being beta and letting your guard down can sometimes work out. HOW FUCKING WRONG WAS I. Esspecially with American women.

What I found myself doing before this experience was taking game advice that was only convenient to my situation. Instead of diving into it all from the beginning it was like I was learning game backwards, as a result getting knocked down along the way, but its getting up off your feet to see the light that will benefit you the next time something like this comes along. At the end of it all, this experience was liberating, simply to see red pill confirmed to the T, while unfortunately going through the emotional pain at the same time.