Post: #1

Ok I know this is a newbie Q but have always wondered. When a date ends, and you go to say goodbye, is not going for the kiss a bad idea? I usually only go for a kiss on the check unless there are clear IOIs.

Was on a date last night and it was fun, but made the mistake of not steering the conversation into more attraction-building. So we talked about travel etc, which was interesting but I also realize in retrospect that if I have a second date like this, I'm heading into the "friend-zone".

So as a follow up, I guess this means I need to kiss her on the second date huh!

Thanks again guys - you're like the big brother(s) I wish I had!!

Post: #2

Gah. I just did a search after this and saw a bunch of similar threads....sorry

Post: #3

No, you should kiss her well before the end of the first date. And yes, many threads on this.

Post: #4

I go for the bang before the first date ends.

Post: #5

No. Go for the bang on the first date.

Post: #6

If you're waiting for the end of the date for a kiss, you haven't escalated enough.

Post: #7

Tuth,

If its a girl from online dating and the first date is the first time you're meeting her, do you still go for the bang?

Post: #8

(05-12-2012 12:59 PM)Walnuts Wrote:  Tuth,

If its a girl from online dating and the first date is the first time you're meeting her, do you still go for the bang?

Yes. I get the ball as far up-field as I can. I've banged several online girls on the first date. Remember our good friend Talleyrand:

"Women sometimes forgive a man who presses an opportunity, but never a man who misses one."
--Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord

Post: #9

Oh, darkhorse,
Always go to make-out. None of that peck on the cheek shit. Even if there aren't clear IOI's. A man always needs to be pushing the boundaries. This is where bravery gets rewarded. You may be thinking in your head "what if she doesn't want to make-out", you don't listen to that shit. If you want to make-out you fucking go for it and she follows. If you need IOI's, her presence is an IOI.
If you get her back to the crib then you escalate like a pro. Man up soldier!

Post: #10

(05-12-2012 01:02 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(05-12-2012 12:59 PM)Walnuts Wrote:  Tuth,

If its a girl from online dating and the first date is the first time you're meeting her, do you still go for the bang?

Yes. I get the ball as far up-field as I can. I've banged several online girls on the first date. Remember our good friend Talleyrand:

"Women sometimes forgive a man who presses an opportunity, but never a man who misses one."
--Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord

Thanks, I'm new to online dating.
It happened to me a few weeks ago, I made-out with her but wasn't sure how far i should push since she'd never met me. I've been regretting it. Wish I had you in my ear for the play-by-play lol. Thanks for advice.

Post: #11

(05-12-2012 12:22 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  No. Go for the bang on the first date.

^this. Tuth I hope you don't mind me linking your masterpiece /thread-8681.h...ang+recipe always push for the bang because that's simply the reason why you're talking to the girl and your main target all the time.

Post: #12

(05-12-2012 01:02 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(05-12-2012 12:59 PM)Walnuts Wrote:  Tuth,

If its a girl from online dating and the first date is the first time you're meeting her, do you still go for the bang?

Yes. I get the ball as far up-field as I can. I've banged several online girls on the first date. Remember our good friend Talleyrand:

"Women sometimes forgive a man who presses an opportunity, but never a man who misses one."
--Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord

I like that quote Tuth, that's going into my signature.

I've field tested Tuthmosis' First Date Bang recipe and it's the only one I use.

Post: #13

I go for the kiss no later than two thirds of the way through the first date- halfway through if it's going well.

And I mean a real lip lock-usually I strike at an opportune moment by grabbing her by an upper arm and pulling her into me. Forget that pansy dry pecking-really lay one on her and then pull away first and act nonchalant about it

Waiting to the end of the date signals to her that the guy is a beta who follows societal expectations and is afraid to be aggressive and follow his own desires. Don't be that guy

As for online dates-those girls are even more DTF. You should be going for the bang on the first date, not worrying about when to kiss her.

Post: #14

Caramba. Não consigo conceber sair com um cara e ele não querer me beijar antes do encontro acabar.
é de perder o tesão.

(Ok, done. Go for google translator for that... I couldn't find words in english to do so.)

Post: #15

This is for the OP.

Meeting up with a chick tonight. First time with her. I plan to:

1. Lock eyes when I see her. Smirk.
2. Motion with my hand (reverse clap) for her to come over
3. Move my hands to my mouth/chin in an inquisitive manner
4. Look her up and down
5. Grab her by the hips (still looking in her eyes)
6. Whisper in to her ear "so, come here often"
7. Give her a kiss
8. Push her away
9. Tell her to get drinks. Smirk.

I'll let you know how poorly it turns out.

Worse case? She pulls away from the kiss and I have something to tease her about, while continuing to escalate.

Best case? She says she has the drinks at her place.


EDIT: Ok, this is a bad example. Just asked what she was wearing (so I can find her) and she just came back with kinky. Definitely going to work.

Post: #16

Ok, I failed the OP. The worst meetup I have ever had. Never see a lawyer. I should have left after the first 15 minutes. It was a jekyl and hyde moment.

Post: #17

(05-12-2012 12:59 PM)Walnuts Wrote:  Tuth,

If its a girl from online dating and the first date is the first time you're meeting her, do you still go for the bang?

The last 8 chicks I banged from online were all first date bangs.

Post: #18

(05-14-2012 06:37 PM)astro Wrote:  This is for the OP.

Meeting up with a chick tonight. First time with her. I plan to:

1. Lock eyes when I see her. Smirk.
2. Motion with my hand (reverse clap) for her to come over
3. Move my hands to my mouth/chin in an inquisitive manner
4. Look her up and down
5. Grab her by the hips (still looking in her eyes)
6. Whisper in to her ear "so, come here often"
7. Give her a kiss
8. Push her away
9. Tell her to get drinks. Smirk.

I'll let you know how poorly it turns out.

Worse case? She pulls away from the kiss and I have something to tease her about, while continuing to escalate.

Best case? She says she has the drinks at her place.


EDIT: Ok, this is a bad example. Just asked what she was wearing (so I can find her) and she just came back with kinky. Definitely going to work.

Dude. You can't "plan" a date like this. It should be a fluid process, not scripted. If this is your idea of what a date should be you need to start over at square one.

Post: #19

(05-15-2012 01:53 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 06:37 PM)astro Wrote:  This is for the OP.

Meeting up with a chick tonight. First time with her. I plan to:

1. Lock eyes when I see her. Smirk.
2. Motion with my hand (reverse clap) for her to come over
3. Move my hands to my mouth/chin in an inquisitive manner
4. Look her up and down
5. Grab her by the hips (still looking in her eyes)
6. Whisper in to her ear "so, come here often"
7. Give her a kiss
8. Push her away
9. Tell her to get drinks. Smirk.

I'll let you know how poorly it turns out.

Worse case? She pulls away from the kiss and I have something to tease her about, while continuing to escalate.

Best case? She says she has the drinks at her place.


EDIT: Ok, this is a bad example. Just asked what she was wearing (so I can find her) and she just came back with kinky. Definitely going to work.

Dude. You can't "plan" a date like this. It should be a fluid process, not scripted. If this is your idea of what a date should be you need to start over at square one.

That is one of the funniest things I've ever read here.

Post: #20

(05-15-2012 03:31 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 01:53 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 06:37 PM)astro Wrote:  This is for the OP.

Meeting up with a chick tonight. First time with her. I plan to:

1. Lock eyes when I see her. Smirk.
2. Motion with my hand (reverse clap) for her to come over
3. Move my hands to my mouth/chin in an inquisitive manner
4. Look her up and down
5. Grab her by the hips (still looking in her eyes)
6. Whisper in to her ear "so, come here often"
7. Give her a kiss
8. Push her away
9. Tell her to get drinks. Smirk.

I'll let you know how poorly it turns out.

Worse case? She pulls away from the kiss and I have something to tease her about, while continuing to escalate.

Best case? She says she has the drinks at her place.


EDIT: Ok, this is a bad example. Just asked what she was wearing (so I can find her) and she just came back with kinky. Definitely going to work.

Dude. You can't "plan" a date like this. It should be a fluid process, not scripted. If this is your idea of what a date should be you need to start over at square one.

That is one of the funniest things I've ever read here.

I read about this kinda stuff on my local lair!!

Ok so along with this you gotta ensure the following things:

1) You've already kissed closed
2) You're getting lots of IOIs
3) You NEG her hard
4) You Peacock
5) Don't get AMOG'd (try using AMOG Destroyer 1.0)
6) Open a 3 set
7) Finish with a fuck close!!!

El Mech think that's a conclusive list??

Post: #21

(05-15-2012 04:34 PM)dk902 Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 03:31 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(05-15-2012 01:53 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 06:37 PM)astro Wrote:  This is for the OP.

Meeting up with a chick tonight. First time with her. I plan to:

1. Lock eyes when I see her. Smirk.
2. Motion with my hand (reverse clap) for her to come over
3. Move my hands to my mouth/chin in an inquisitive manner
4. Look her up and down
5. Grab her by the hips (still looking in her eyes)
6. Whisper in to her ear "so, come here often"
7. Give her a kiss
8. Push her away
9. Tell her to get drinks. Smirk.

I'll let you know how poorly it turns out.

Worse case? She pulls away from the kiss and I have something to tease her about, while continuing to escalate.

Best case? She says she has the drinks at her place.


EDIT: Ok, this is a bad example. Just asked what she was wearing (so I can find her) and she just came back with kinky. Definitely going to work.

Dude. You can't "plan" a date like this. It should be a fluid process, not scripted. If this is your idea of what a date should be you need to start over at square one.

That is one of the funniest things I've ever read here.

I read about this kinda stuff on my local lair!!

Ok so along with this you gotta ensure the following things:

1) You've already kissed closed
2) You're getting lots of IOIs
3) You NEG her hard
4) You Peacock
5) Don't get AMOG'd (try using AMOG Destroyer 1.0)
6) Open a 3 set
7) Finish with a fuck close!!!

El Mech think that's a conclusive list??

Nice. what's your local liar? link?