Post: #101

I had a crack at the 200 sit-ups as I'm better at them than push ups. I've been doing 100 for the last couple of weeks as a warm up prior to lifting. For the initial test, I knocked out 300 straight and was barely sweating until the last 20. Then I got bored. I don't think I'll need to follow that program!

However....


Push ups are a different story. I can barely crack 16 out before failure. I am going to follow the program!

I have no idea why my abs are so much stronger than my arms. I always close my eyes when doing sit ups, that might help with the presses. Focus on the music and working the muscles.

I also realised when doing squats the other day that deliberately breathing deeper than my body feels it needs to give me a boost.

Slightly OT but...

Went to the same house party last night as I did last NYE. Three people said I'd lost a shag load of weight (thanks Keto) Fast forward to this morning and I'm hung over and dehydrated to fuck, veins popping out all over the shop. Caught sight of myself in the mirror- I am genuinely making progress! The visual effect was amplified by the lack of fluids, but it's an awesome feeling to realise how much your body has developed.

Post: #102

As I already reached 100 push ups. I changed now to one arm push ups. I am now at 25 with a 12kg backpack.

Post: #103

(07-16-2012 07:15 PM)Alfonzo Wrote:  For those who are in better shape, I do my own training and push my self a lot. I often do some circuit and here some exemples:
100 chain up
100 dip
100 squat
100 push up

The first time I did it in 19 minutes,the second time in 16.

How many circuits do you do?

(06-26-2013 09:48 AM)Bill Wrote:  I am now at 95 consecutive push ups and 45 one armed push ups. This is my method:

day
1. used 90% every 3 hours.
2. used 90% every 3 hours
3. used 90% every 3 hours

make 3 days break and repeat

for example my last 3 days had these max stats:

day
1. 65
2. 75
3. 95
----
and after finishing the pushups for the day I make the one armed push ups. I don´t know why but it works great.

I am using the same method for bodyweight squats too.

At the risk of looking ignorant, I don't know what you meant by all this?

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #104

100 push ups was a requirement of a black belt grading I did a while back. You could "rest" on straight arms between reps, but if you let your weight fall, you fail instantly. Obviously I had done a lot of them in training, but 100 straight is still a challenge to anyone. A couple of tips that can make it much easier:

1. Spread your legs - Distributing your weight over 3 points rather than 2 lightens the load considerably, the further you spread them, the easier they get. But don't expect an instructor/trainer to tolerate you spreading them too far. Just as far as you think you can get away with.
2. Alternate hand positions - I find on my knuckles the easiest since that's how I've been required to do them, but that's very heavy on the triceps. When they get tired, you can change the focus to your chest (wide grip) or shoulders (diamond grip). Just mix them up...without letting your weight drop.

They'll give you a wicked pump, but don't expect to put on any mass by doing this.

Post: #105

(01-07-2014 02:51 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(07-16-2012 07:15 PM)Alfonzo Wrote:  For those who are in better shape, I do my own training and push my self a lot. I often do some circuit and here some exemples:
100 chain up
100 dip
100 squat
100 push up

The first time I did it in 19 minutes,the second time in 16.

How many circuits do you do?

(06-26-2013 09:48 AM)Bill Wrote:  I am now at 95 consecutive push ups and 45 one armed push ups. This is my method:

day
1. used 90% every 3 hours.
2. used 90% every 3 hours
3. used 90% every 3 hours

make 3 days break and repeat

for example my last 3 days had these max stats:

day
1. 65
2. 75
3. 95
----
and after finishing the pushups for the day I make the one armed push ups. I don´t know why but it works great.

I am using the same method for bodyweight squats too.

At the risk of looking ignorant, I don't know what you meant by all this?

tl; dr
Train many times of the day and make a 3 days break.

--

The point is you do one set of push ups every 3 hours. For each set you do always invest only 90% of your max mental and physical energy so you have enough energy left for the next set in 3 hours.

The thing is you probably will make more push ups than in the previous sets as your body adapts to the push ups. Probably in the last set in the evening you will make your max set of the day.

After that you probably need a break for 3 days to recover.

My theory why it works is that in training throughout the day you can go to your max without investing much mental energy.

------

What I also found is that if your motivation is down for the day you can make your push ups for two days with the same method. Probably you will do more push ups in the second day because of adaptation and muscle memory. Then you need again some 3 day recovery time.

Again the reason I think the system works is that pushing your limits to 100% is very difficult. Also physically giving 100% is unhealthy and to much for the body.

You might compare it to eating systems of bodybuilders they eat 6 times a day because it´s better for the body and also mentally.

Post: #106

(01-07-2014 02:10 PM)Bill Wrote:  tl; dr
Train many times of the day and make a 3 days break.

--

The point is you do one set of push ups every 3 hours. For each set you do always invest only 90% of your max mental and physical energy so you have enough energy left for the next set in 3 hours.

The thing is you probably will make more push ups than in the previous sets as your body adapts to the push ups. Probably in the last set in the evening you will make your max set of the day.

After that you probably need a break for 3 days to recover.

My theory why it works is that in training throughout the day you can go to your max without investing much mental energy.

------

What I also found is that if your motivation is down for the day you can make your push ups for two days with the same method. Probably you will do more push ups in the second day because of adaptation and muscle memory. Then you need again some 3 day recovery time.

Again the reason I think the system works is that pushing your limits to 100% is very difficult. Also physically giving 100% is unhealthy and to much for the body.

You might compare it to eating systems of bodybuilders they eat 6 times a day because it´s better for the body and also mentally.

Interesting stuff, Bill. Did you stumble across this somewhere or come up with it on your own?

By the way. His form is out there, but at his age, I'm not complaining.

Found this on Youtube.

Quote:My 85 year old grandpa told me he could do 150 pushups a day. 50 pushups 3 times a day. I did not believe him until I seen it.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #107

(01-08-2014 02:44 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 02:10 PM)Bill Wrote:  tl; dr
Train many times of the day and make a 3 days break.

--

The point is you do one set of push ups every 3 hours. For each set you do always invest only 90% of your max mental and physical energy so you have enough energy left for the next set in 3 hours.

The thing is you probably will make more push ups than in the previous sets as your body adapts to the push ups. Probably in the last set in the evening you will make your max set of the day.

After that you probably need a break for 3 days to recover.

My theory why it works is that in training throughout the day you can go to your max without investing much mental energy.

------

What I also found is that if your motivation is down for the day you can make your push ups for two days with the same method. Probably you will do more push ups in the second day because of adaptation and muscle memory. Then you need again some 3 day recovery time.

Again the reason I think the system works is that pushing your limits to 100% is very difficult. Also physically giving 100% is unhealthy and to much for the body.

You might compare it to eating systems of bodybuilders they eat 6 times a day because it´s better for the body and also mentally.

Interesting stuff, Bill. Did you stumble across this somewhere or come up with it on your own?

By the way. His form is out there, but at his age, I'm not complaining.

Found this on Youtube.

Quote:My 85 year old grandpa told me he could do 150 pushups a day. 50 pushups 3 times a day. I did not believe him until I seen it.

Actually I developed it by myself through trial and error and selfobservation. One of the advantages of being semi-retired as one has more time for this type of stuff.

The problem is it´s mainly for the guys who stay at home for the most time of the day. So maybe that´s why people do not know this method.

Yes, the old guy uses more or less the same method. Good find. Proves that it works. Respect for the old badass guy. Shows the power of bodyweight training.

Post: #108

(01-08-2014 03:24 PM)Bill Wrote:  Actually I developed it by myself through trial and error and selfobservation. One of the advantages of being semi-retired as one has more time for this type of stuff.

The problem is it´s mainly for the guys who stay at home for the most time of the day. So maybe that´s why people do not know this method.

I'm one of the guys who gets to work from the house, so I find this stuff really interesting. Do share more findings/expirements if you come up with anything else.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #109

(01-09-2014 04:31 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 03:24 PM)Bill Wrote:  Actually I developed it by myself through trial and error and selfobservation. One of the advantages of being semi-retired as one has more time for this type of stuff.

The problem is it´s mainly for the guys who stay at home for the most time of the day. So maybe that´s why people do not know this method.

I'm one of the guys who gets to work from the house, so I find this stuff really interesting. Do share more findings/expirements if you come up with anything else.

You mean probably also other stuff besides workouts.
I think for that I could post on this thread:

/thread-24516.html

Post: #110

(01-09-2014 03:25 PM)Bill Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 04:31 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 03:24 PM)Bill Wrote:  Actually I developed it by myself through trial and error and selfobservation. One of the advantages of being semi-retired as one has more time for this type of stuff.

The problem is it´s mainly for the guys who stay at home for the most time of the day. So maybe that´s why people do not know this method.

I'm one of the guys who gets to work from the house, so I find this stuff really interesting. Do share more findings/expirements if you come up with anything else.

You mean probably also other stuff besides workouts.
I think for that I could post on this thread:

/thread-24516.html

I was referring to working out.

Anyways, just came across a few forum posts about Charles Bronson, the famous inmate from the UK. I'm sure you've heard of him. In his book Solitary Fitness I guess he advocates training either two or three times a day (bodyweight stuff). He was pretty beastly. Might be an interesting look - I haven't read it yet.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #111

(01-11-2014 11:01 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 03:25 PM)Bill Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 04:31 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 03:24 PM)Bill Wrote:  Actually I developed it by myself through trial and error and selfobservation. One of the advantages of being semi-retired as one has more time for this type of stuff.

The problem is it´s mainly for the guys who stay at home for the most time of the day. So maybe that´s why people do not know this method.

I'm one of the guys who gets to work from the house, so I find this stuff really interesting. Do share more findings/expirements if you come up with anything else.

You mean probably also other stuff besides workouts.
I think for that I could post on this thread:

/thread-24516.html

I was referring to working out.

Anyways, just came across a few forum posts about Charles Bronson, the famous inmate from the UK. I'm sure you've heard of him. In his book Solitary Fitness I guess he advocates training either two or three times a day (bodyweight stuff). He was pretty beastly. Might be an interesting look - I haven't read it yet.

BB, ok sounds interesting.


So I have a new PR: 30 one arm push ups with a 12kg backpack.

Ok, as you asked about my workout I am going to write my general routins:


-Running, 4 times a day (wakes you up, activates)
-Cold shower (wakes up, activates)
-Using standing desk (activates, bloks tiring)
-Mini workouts :flexibility, martial arts movements, boxing, swimming movements, dancing (makes one multi dimensional)

extras:
-Basketball 2 times a day - alone (outdoor motivation, dynamic)

Using loud music - (gives extra powers)

Muscle bodyweight training, starting with day one:
Biceps
Chest
Legs
Shoulder and Back

Post: #112

Great stuff, I'm happy to report that after only a little over a week of doing knee-pushups, my noddle arms gained enough strength to where I can manage 5 regular pushups at a time!

Post: #113

I always find programs for something so simple to be incredibly silly.

My way of going about it would be to do 100 pushups a day (or every other day) in as few sets as possible. Maybe 30 straight in the morning, 25 in the afternoon, 15/10/10/10 throughout the rest of the day. The goal should be to decrease the number of sets needed to do a 100.

Word of advice - Ever since I injured my rotator cuff, I've put a huge importance on form for every exercise. Pushups are no different, guys. Tuck those elbows in!

Post: #114

(01-23-2014 02:07 PM)EddieValiant Wrote:  incredibly silly.

My way of going about it would be ...

Do you have advice for other simple things you have never done, like running a fast mile, getting a Ph.D., or making a million dollars?

Post: #115

Sounds to me like a great way to quickly slam yourself with biceps tendinitis and or a shoulder or joint injury that could end up nagging you for months. This was certainly the case for myself when attempting this feat some years back. Live and learn.

Most of us desk jockies out there suffer from kyphotic postures (computer caveman slumped shoulders) which is a direct result of inhibited posture muscles like the lower trapezius, infraspinatus, teres major, and minor.

As result exercises like traditional push ups preformed with shitty elbows at 90 degrees form and at volumes levels like the plan suggests are just begging for excess joint wear and tear as you shoulder fails to properly glide in the socket like it was designed to among other anatomy fails.

I'd be more inclined to do feet elevated pushups off a low box with a weight vest or properly placed barbell freeweight at a more sensible 8-12 rep range. I've personally had great success in using this method and a weight vest to replace traditional bench press which was wreaking havock on a cranky shoulder and AC joint. Plus it had the advantage of potentially adding on size along with your new found strength.

Post: #116

(01-23-2014 03:01 PM)Searcher Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 02:07 PM)EddieValiant Wrote:  incredibly silly.

My way of going about it would be ...

Do you have advice for other simple things you have never done, like running a fast mile, getting a Ph.D., or making a million dollars?

I've done all three

What I was saying was specific knowledge isn't required to do 100 pushups. Logic is.

Post: #117

(01-23-2014 03:52 PM)faznine15 Wrote:  Sounds to me like a great way to quickly slam yourself with biceps tendinitis and or a shoulder or joint injury that could end up nagging you for months. This was certainly the case for myself when attempting this feat some years back. Live and learn.

Most of us desk jockies out there suffer from kyphotic postures (computer caveman slumped shoulders) which is a direct result of inhibited posture muscles like the lower trapezius, infraspinatus, teres major, and minor.

As result exercises like traditional push ups preformed with shitty elbows at 90 degrees form and at volumes levels like the plan suggests are just begging for excess joint wear and tear as you shoulder fails to properly glide in the socket like it was designed to among other anatomy fails.

I'd be more inclined to do feet elevated pushups off a low box with a weight vest or properly placed barbell freeweight at a more sensible 8-12 rep range. I've personally had great success in using this method and a weight vest to replace traditional bench press which was wreaking havock on a cranky shoulder and AC joint. Plus it had the advantage of potentially adding on size along with your new found strength.

+1

Pull Ups have been better for me than Pushups.

Post: #118

I agree with a lot of posters here. You can get better results by lifting weights rather than doing pushups.

I still do pushups as part of my weekly exercise routine. Usually about 30 pushups at a time and I do 4 sets of them. It's part of my routine, but not the main part.

DavidZRH

Post: #119

Interesting stuff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrophy...c_Training

Post: #120

I have tried this program multiple times and I always slip up one day around week 3 and never get back into it. Its too complicated to keep up with. I think I might try to just do as many as I can every other day and try that and track it. Some of the proposals here also seem like good ideas, such as what Bill said: break it up over every three hours, and then skip 3 days.

Post: #121

I remember reading about the 100 challenge on g manifestos site, I used to do 50 straight all the time. When i decided to go for 100 I made it first try, it is by no means easy but it is also not that difficult either. For the record I am what most guys here would describe as scrawny, 6 feet and no more than 150lbs, if i can do it anyone can. The trick is focusing on counting 10 pushups at a time instead of seeing of it as the full 100.

Post: #122

(01-08-2014 03:24 PM)Bill Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 02:44 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 02:10 PM)Bill Wrote:  tl; dr
Train many times of the day and make a 3 days break.

--

The point is you do one set of push ups every 3 hours. For each set you do always invest only 90% of your max mental and physical energy so you have enough energy left for the next set in 3 hours.

The thing is you probably will make more push ups than in the previous sets as your body adapts to the push ups. Probably in the last set in the evening you will make your max set of the day.

After that you probably need a break for 3 days to recover.

My theory why it works is that in training throughout the day you can go to your max without investing much mental energy.

------

What I also found is that if your motivation is down for the day you can make your push ups for two days with the same method. Probably you will do more push ups in the second day because of adaptation and muscle memory. Then you need again some 3 day recovery time.

Again the reason I think the system works is that pushing your limits to 100% is very difficult. Also physically giving 100% is unhealthy and to much for the body.

You might compare it to eating systems of bodybuilders they eat 6 times a day because it´s better for the body and also mentally.

Interesting stuff, Bill. Did you stumble across this somewhere or come up with it on your own?

By the way. His form is out there, but at his age, I'm not complaining.

Found this on Youtube.

Quote:My 85 year old grandpa told me he could do 150 pushups a day. 50 pushups 3 times a day. I did not believe him until I seen it.

Actually I developed it by myself through trial and error and selfobservation. One of the advantages of being semi-retired as one has more time for this type of stuff.

The problem is it´s mainly for the guys who stay at home for the most time of the day. So maybe that´s why people do not know this method.

Yes, the old guy uses more or less the same method. Good find. Proves that it works. Respect for the old badass guy. Shows the power of bodyweight training.

If the shallow depth this guy is doing push ups is what we're talking about here as good, acceptable form, there's no way in hell I couldn't do 100. I usually do them so low I could kiss the floor without giraffing my neck down, AND use the perfect push up pads which effectively make my max ROM even lower. Granted, anything past a 90 elbow bend activates other muscles besides the chest (delts, even some back push muscles, arms, etc.).

When I can't make it to the gym, some sets of 20-30 deep push ups (full range like I described), with changing hand positions, can actually add quite a bit of strength and mass in my chest. For reference, my 1RM on flat bench is around 315, at 230lbs 6'4" ectomorph frame. I also like inclined push ups, by elevating my feet onto a table or couch.

I guess what I would add, is the amount of push ups you can do relies so entirely on how much time under tension (Speed of the exercise), +/- isometric holding, and range of motion, that one person's 100 push-up challenge might not be SHIT compared to another's whose focused on increasing the elements I just mentioned.

Post: #123

I did P90X for a while. One of the routines includes large numbers of pushups. It has you do them in a variety of styles.

• hands at shoulder width with elbows straight out
• hands out wide with elbows straight out
• elbows tucked in to the sides (they called these military pushups)
• Hands together in center below the chest (diamond pushups)
• Incline pushups with feet on a chair
• they also had some crazy ones like you're ducking under a fence or bouncing up into the air on every rep
  

The routine had 7 sets of max reps over about 40 minutes, with other weight lifting moves mixed in, as we'll as some pullups

It seemed to me that the variety of styles worked my arms and chest better. The diamond pushups were the hardest

Post: #124

(01-25-2014 03:38 AM)DavidZRH Wrote:  I agree with a lot of posters here. You can get better results by lifting weights rather than doing pushups.

I still do pushups as part of my weekly exercise routine. Usually about 30 pushups at a time and I do 4 sets of them. It's part of my routine, but not the main part.

DavidZRH

I've only been working out at home with dumbbells and body weight exercises the last two months, with variations of push-ups accounting for my chest workouts.
I was at the gym four or five days ago and my bench press weight and reps had gone up slightly since my last visit, which is actually a rarity for me the last many years as I pretty much peaked in terms of strength before I was 20 and then in subsequent years settled into essentially a two decades long plateau (with minor fluctuations depending on occasional breaks and frequency and intensity variations) slightly below my teenage peak strength.

I've been much more prone to minor shoulder, elbow and wrist injuries since my mid 30s (and sure enough my right shoulder took a mild hit during that gym visit this week that made even push-ups feel like a bad idea for a couple of days), so I suspect dumbbells and body weight exercises will continue to play a majority role in my workouts.

Post: #125

(08-23-2015 04:36 PM)zaqan Wrote:  I have tried this program multiple times and I always slip up one day around week 3 and never get back into it. Its too complicated to keep up with. I think I might try to just do as many as I can every other day and try that and track it. Some of the proposals here also seem like good ideas, such as what Bill said: break it up over every three hours, and then skip 3 days.

I've tried the 100 Push Ups and 200 Sit Ups apps several times and always fail in the 3rd or 4th week.

I tried the 10,000 Push Up Challenge (10k in 30 days) in June, July, and August. It averages out to 333/day but I was starting from zero so I had a modified plan. I did 4 sets a day (spaced out), increasing the reps by 1 each set. June I started at 25 reps and made it 4 days (Caribbean trip derailed me) for a total of 520. July I started at 25 reps, made it 15 days for a total of 3270. August I started at 40 reps and made it 13 days for around 3300. Once the reps got to 60 I had to start breaking them in half. I think maybe doing 3 days on 1 day off might help with the fatigue.

Seeing this thread has me motivated to start again. I'll post results back on 10/14.

ETA: I don't lift or anything else and after 3000 pushups in 15 days or so I could notice a slight improvement in the chest, shoulders, and arms. I felt like a fucking machine at the peaks of those months. I really need to commit to a long term work out plan.