Post: #26

(05-07-2012 07:16 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Your girl presents the problem of the "time waster" or "window shopper."

Those women like to ask endless questions and go on repeated dates.

With those types, I go back and forth between alpha and beta.

Beta, "I want a girlfriend," and alpha, "I am dominant."

If she goes for the dominant line, then she's in the frame that you're running things.

I used that very same line on a girl who "was tired of men just looking for sex," and she responded, "Good. I'm looking for a dominant master."

That line won't work universally. But it does two things that are central to my game:

1. Blowing Bitches Out (BBO). If a girl is a time waster, I am not going to run endless game on her. I'm going to blow her out with a line she might not like, but...

2. Often those BBO lines leave a girl who wants to be dominated. She only seemed like a time waster because her submissive switch hadn't been flipped.

So why don't I BBO her with my digletts?

Post: #27

(05-07-2012 07:40 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 07:16 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Your girl presents the problem of the "time waster" or "window shopper."

Those women like to ask endless questions and go on repeated dates.

With those types, I go back and forth between alpha and beta.

Beta, "I want a girlfriend," and alpha, "I am dominant."

If she goes for the dominant line, then she's in the frame that you're running things.

I used that very same line on a girl who "was tired of men just looking for sex," and she responded, "Good. I'm looking for a dominant master."

That line won't work universally. But it does two things that are central to my game:

1. Blowing Bitches Out (BBO). If a girl is a time waster, I am not going to run endless game on her. I'm going to blow her out with a line she might not like, but...

2. Often those BBO lines leave a girl who wants to be dominated. She only seemed like a time waster because her submissive switch hadn't been flipped.

So why don't I BBO her with my digletts?

That gives her an easy out.

If you ask her if she wants a dominant guy she's more likely to answer and the answer may open the door.

Or it may blow her out.

It's a win either way.

Post: #28

I never give my # out. It sets the frame wrong. It gives her the power to text/call, or not.

If girl gives a good answer to dominant question, I say, "Good. Now give me you're # so I can tell you where we're going to meet."

I'll even tell her what to wear.

I am running shit from the get-go.

Post: #29

Yeah an easy out. Call me or make a move or I'm done with you. I don't want her number if she can't or won't make the transition. I think I did enough

Post: #30

I tell them to text me a "hi"

Post: #31

Bomb worked. Got the digits and setting up a meet this week.

That's number three.

Fucking A Chicago is a target rich environment!

Post: #32

I will set the date, give them my digits and say "### text me when you get lost."

Post: #33

I sent..I don't think I can answer that in a couple sentences here. We can talk about that when we meet.

She sends 2 minutes later.. "Yeah after all I'm not here for a text or chat buddy. Not to be superficial but do you have a current photo?"

POF deleted my picture and I threw one up wearing a tux that's two years old. So? This goes to show that these girls really take any fun out of this. I don't even know why I'm bothering with her.

Anyway send her a picture? I don't know. Now I want to fuck her because she's annoying me.

Post: #34

You like the challenge.

How does she know it's two years old?

Hell, at this point I'd probably tell her that guys don't change much in two years, unlike women.

Post: #35

Online window-shoppers are the fucking worst. I generally deal with it by cutting off the endless back-and-forth with something along these lines:

Let's continue this conversation over a drink. I'm free after this weekend. Give me your number....etc. etc.

The online convo is just a preview of the product. I'm not giving away the store in paragraph-long bites over the course of several weeks. The girls who balk at a move like this after, say, 4-5 exchanges were wishy-washy about meeting in the first place, I assure you. She's probably new to the online environment, is just attention-whoring, and definitely wasn't DTF.

Post: #36

Bingo Tuth. That's what sets apart the guys on OKCupid. Those who can build the rapport and transition from online to date setting, and those who always get stuck with a penpal. You gotta be fast with these broads or they will move on to fresh meat as soon as she finds a man she thinks is more worthy than you.

Post: #37

(05-08-2012 11:09 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  I sent..I don't think I can answer that in a couple sentences here. We can talk about that when we meet.

She sends 2 minutes later.. "Yeah after all I'm not here for a text or chat buddy. Not to be superficial but do you have a current photo?"

POF deleted my picture and I threw one up wearing a tux that's two years old. So? This goes to show that these girls really take any fun out of this. I don't even know why I'm bothering with her.

Anyway send her a picture? I don't know. Now I want to fuck her because she's annoying me.

Send her this picture.

Post: #38

I usually just respond with something like, "Trouble."

Post: #39

Understand that I bang these girls out, Eventually. I told her I wanted a recent full body shot in exchange for a new pic. If she complies I will send a pic from the same wedding to fuck with her. I'm still slow rolling/harvesting girls that I started with before I joined the forum if that makes sense. I flake on them until they agree to meet up with almost perfect logistics. Like last night. Online girl wants to go to dinner. I said ok where I'll take you. What did I do? I sat here and smoked hash and drank Vodka while texting excuses until she agreed for me to bring her take out. I showed up at about 10pm with no food but had scratch-off tickets. Order out I told her. I bought her a pizza and made her some drinks. I hit and was home by midnight.

Post: #40

(05-08-2012 12:43 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Understand that I bang these girls out, Eventually. I told her I wanted a recent full body shot in exchange for a new pic. If she complies I will send a pic from the same wedding to fuck with her. I'm still slow rolling/harvesting girls that I started with before I joined the forum if that makes sense. I flake on them until they agree to meet up with almost perfect logistics. Like last night. Online girl wants to go to dinner. I said ok where I'll take you. What did I do? I sat here and smoked hash and drank Vodka while texting excuses until she agreed for me to bring her take out. I showed up at about 10pm with no food but had scratch-off tickets. Order out I told her. I bought her a pizza and made her some drinks. I hit and was home by midnight.

I stumbled onto this artform by accident, it's obvious I still have a lot of room for improvement. When I was a rookie I used to be so excited at the prospect of a date I would agree to basically whenever she was available... which fucked up my logistics to no end. Now I will accept or blow off chicks days, weeks (sometimes months in which case I pull a restart text) at a time until the timing is right.

Right now I've got a girl who has openly told me she wants a FB for the summer that she can go do outdoorsy things with. We've yet to meet up for drinks (she dropped off the radar), I put her on the back burner for a few weeks, and today she just hit me up wanting to meet up...

Quote:Hey - Sorry, I was super busy that night, and since then I've been apartment hunting. Replying to craigslist ads for housing took up all my online-correspondance-with-strangers energy for a while.

Still want to grab a drink? I'm definitely looking for a kayak buddy for the summer. Plus climbing. Plus benefits.

Easy peasy.

Unfortunately the rest of my week is already full and I need to drop another recent addition anyway, so she'll probably get a slot Sunday or early next week.

Post: #41

Nice Gmac, If you are about over going on bullshit dates at your age wait until you're 42. You'll really be over it. But at that time pulling young domestic is work. I think that's what sends guys into the P4P zone.

I've been talking about a pocket of EE/Russian girls I found. They all live in a place that is a new city and help with kids etc. Fresh off the boat but 30 minutes away and they share cars or don't drive. Logistical nightmare but the hottest girls I've been dating in a while. It's 10X the work to bed these girls. The local sluts online provide a "just slide it in" type scenario if you have your drinks/pad/timing in check

BTW that stupid wedding pic is 100% response rate for some reason. Shiny red vest and tie as lame as it is and looks like it was taken on a Razor phone.

Post: #42

Any update?

Post: #43

(05-09-2012 02:18 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Any update?

I went radio silence on her and she sent a "hello?" at 8am my way. I sent her back "Been busy" a few minutes ago.

Post: #44

Hello at 8am? Give her the dick man, she's begging for it.

"Hello?"
"On my way over"
"???"

Radio silence.