Post: #26

I don't blame the Indian guys for looking else where. I've been in India and Nepal for 3.5 weeks in 2008 and flirted with only one Indian girl in a mall and she was below the age of 20. Older girls over there looked horrible. Maybe one in a few hundred over there is attractive.
The Indian girls i have seen in Guyana, Suriname and Trinidad and Tobago looked a whole lot better than their counterparts from the motherland.

Most Indian guys i have met abroad were anti-social,very very cheap, nerdy,needy,creepy and very unhygienic. The ones in hostels were hated by most people there. I remember one in Sao Paulo who disgusted the whole hostel with his eating habits and how he left the toilets behind.

Post: #27

(05-07-2012 04:24 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  Most Indian guys i have met abroad were anti-social,very very cheap, nerdy,needy,creepy and very unhygienic. The ones in hostels were hated by most people there. I remember one in Sao Paulo who disgusted the whole hostel with his eating habits and how he left the toilets behind.

Being Indian I can say that it's stereotyping such as this that works and doesn't work in my favor. All I have to do is dress nicely, wear a jacket, occasional suit, pocket square and I'm already different from 99% of my Indian brothers. So that is very little effort on my part and that's a good thing. But the downside is I end up tipping way more at restaurants, bars etc more than my white brothers because of the perception of guys like him (above). It's like I am overcompensating for my race. I have a jewish friend who has the same problem

Post: #28

(05-07-2012 08:19 AM)Swagger Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 04:24 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  Most Indian guys i have met abroad were anti-social,very very cheap, nerdy,needy,creepy and very unhygienic. The ones in hostels were hated by most people there. I remember one in Sao Paulo who disgusted the whole hostel with his eating habits and how he left the toilets behind.

Being Indian I can say that it's stereotyping such as this that works and doesn't work in my favor. All I have to do is dress nicely, wear a jacket, occasional suit, pocket square and I'm already different from 99% of my Indian brothers. So that is very little effort on my part and that's a good thing. But the downside is I end up tipping way more at restaurants, bars etc more than my white brothers because of the perception of guys like him (above). It's like I am overcompensating for my race. I have a jewish friend who has the same problem

It's not stereotyping when it's often true, people just don't like to hear the truth - Neil was giving his first hand account of what he saw in India, you can't simply disregard it because you don't like or agree with what he saw. Use game to set yourself apart and break those stereotypes just as you claim you have and it's not even an issue. The world will never be an equal playing field.

Post: #29

Are the girls here representative of Indian girls in the US?

Post: #30

(05-07-2012 04:04 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:03 PM)Roosh Wrote:  mechanico: I will never go to India. I hate Indian girls.

I *almost* bagged an Indian girl Saturday night. Was out at a club here in Bangkok and grabbed her up. She was a solid 7.5 and pretty Westernized. Her and her friend were in BKK for a 3 day holiday. She kept telling me how cute I was and I ended up making out with her.....until her Amazonian of a friend came over and told me I had to keep her friend close to her and can't run off with her again.

My reply? "No. I don't have to do that." and I grabbed my girl and spun her away from her friend. Which ended in my girl telling me "Sorry, I can't go with you. Sorry, but blah blah blah" and it was over. Really have a thing for hot Indian girls too.

I think I'm going to go troll an Indian PUA forum now asking if white guys can pick up Indian chicks.

the biggest problem with westernized indian girls is that they have entitlement complexes of epic proportions. they think themselves exotic and unique and will play guys as much as guys will play them. this is true especially of the younger generation. that's why, at least recently, i've met several indian girls that are single and unmarried even though they are above 30 years old, which is a huge red flag for them when they decide they want to settle down.

Post: #31

(05-07-2012 08:25 AM)Skrolls Wrote:  Are the girls here representative of Indian girls in the US?

Not even close

Post: #32

(05-07-2012 08:28 AM)at350zguyy Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 04:04 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 08:03 PM)Roosh Wrote:  mechanico: I will never go to India. I hate Indian girls.

I *almost* bagged an Indian girl Saturday night. Was out at a club here in Bangkok and grabbed her up. She was a solid 7.5 and pretty Westernized. Her and her friend were in BKK for a 3 day holiday. She kept telling me how cute I was and I ended up making out with her.....until her Amazonian of a friend came over and told me I had to keep her friend close to her and can't run off with her again.

My reply? "No. I don't have to do that." and I grabbed my girl and spun her away from her friend. Which ended in my girl telling me "Sorry, I can't go with you. Sorry, but blah blah blah" and it was over. Really have a thing for hot Indian girls too.

I think I'm going to go troll an Indian PUA forum now asking if white guys can pick up Indian chicks.

the biggest problem with westernized indian girls is that they have entitlement complexes of epic proportions. they think themselves exotic and unique and will play guys as much as guys will play them. this is true especially of the younger generation. that's why, at least recently, i've met several indian girls that are single and unmarried even though they are above 30 years old, which is a huge red flag for them when they decide they want to settle down.

In all fairness, Indian guys (even the American-born ones) are no prize either. Many (if not the majority) are nerdy beta mama's boys. Can't blame the girls for rejecting them. The cats with style, coin and game (I'm thinking Dr. Sanjay Gupta types) do well.

If not for cultural pressure, most of these 30+ single Indian women would be wifed up to white guys as we see with Asian women.

Post: #33

(05-07-2012 08:25 AM)Skrolls Wrote:  Are the girls here representative of Indian girls in the US?

this is a pretty fair mix of what you see at huge state universities. you get your mix of good and bad.

this video has opened my eyes to something i already knew but failed to mention to all the players who hunt indian girls out there. they are really heavy into dance competitions and some of these major competitions (in their world) have huge draws. hit up these dance competitions and you will find prime looking indian women.

westernized indian girls are the same as any girl in the western world. strike the right nerve and they are yours for the taking. you can run textbook game on them and its a shame most indian guys dont take advantage of the best looking ones.

that being said, there are a lot of stereotypes about them that are probably true. some of the establishments i have been to will not even let indians in for this reason.

Post: #34

(05-06-2012 07:42 PM)Gmac Wrote:  Based on my own experience, indian (and east asian) guys are some of the most insecure, introverted men on the planet when they are out of their element (or country) - these are usually the guys who understand that stereotypes exist and can't get over that fact. I'm not really surprised. Ah well, what can you do?

I think Asian guys are lot worse off than brown guys. Asian guys aren't even interested in girls half the time, they sit around playing video games on their iPhone and listen to K-Pop girl groups. Brown guys try at least, sometimes...

The thing is: brown guys put the pussy on the pedestal to the max. In that regard they blow any other group out of the water and this is especially more so for white girls. Meanwhile brown girls are just like Jewish and Persian girls in that they're more status seeking and materialistic except they're not as attractive (that's not me being biased against other brown people, everybody here agrees that brown girls on the whole aren't hot) which makes the attitudes they sport hard to put up with.

A lot of the hot brown girls I know who are born and raised in the West LOVE acting ghetto when in reality they're far from it. They think they are African American. Anyway they are really Westernized and predominately hang out with other wannabe ghetto brown girls or wannabe ghetto white girls. They grow out of that after they finish university. Brown girls very much prefer dating other brown guys and at least at my age don't seem to care whether or not they're Indian or Sri Lankan or Pakistani. They get a fuckload of attention from pathetic hordes of ultra beta and needy brown guys and as such develop gigantic egos. They get passed around by the few player brown guys and wannabe ghetto white guys (mainly Italian and Greek in my neck of the woods) all the while pretending to be ultra innocent to all their brown male friends. If they knew how slutty some of the girls they idolate so much are they would probably kill themselves. They put them on the pedestal THAT much.

A couple more things: I can think of three Indian naturals off the top of my head who kill it. All were born in Australia, none of them act FOB (fresh off the boat) and their friendship groups aren't exclusively brown but not exclusively white either. One is a DJ, one is tank and dresses well and the last just has a very alpha personality. One thing was none of them were ashamed about their ethnic background or insecure about it in any way shape or form and the later even tattooed a Hindu symbol on his back. Also 2/3 are steadfast that while it's okay to mess around with white and asian girls, they would never get exclusive with a non-brown girl and they would never marry a non-virgin. Their best bet to find a gorgeous one is to get a Pashtun Afghan girl and try and convert her. I know one Indian dude who actually did that and married her.

Bro tip to brown and asian guys: Never make a self-deprecating joke or any other race joke about yourself with a girl you've just. Don't even mention race early on, because if you do the girls will detect your any insecurity about race in a heartbeat. Save the rice jokes for when they know you better.

Post: #35

I would do an Indian lizard. It's all about presentation. I cannot believe that in a country of 1 billion people, you cannot find at least 500,000 that would look hot. It defies logic and belief.

Where I used to work and because of my field, there are always tons of brown folk. There was an Indian lizard there that I quite fancied. She was married but I often dallied with the notion of lacing her in a secluded area.

A few of my Indian friends are married and they have hot wives. I don't lust after the wives of course but I am not blind and I can see that the wives look good. These are FOB women also.

Also, I am attracted to quite a lot of Caribbean Indian lizards. There was one where I work, Guyanese, hot, nice swag, lovely rolling buttocks, I would hit that all day.

So, when I get settled, I might go to India and further the Roosh's work and add to his existing masterpieces: Bang India.

But real talk, I don't feel that brown guys like when other guys plot to bang their lizards. I feel there is a bit of a monopoly on the Indian lizard market.

I simply cannot believe that mans cannot smash in a country with a billion people. Toronto is a shyt hole but one can still smash here, if they go out enough. The same must be with India. Just isolate and destroy.

Post: #36

P dog,

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Parlay and I had this discussion and he even wrote a post on his blog about Indian guys. Definitely are beta by default. Very needy, passive, and pedastalizing for sure.

Where are you finding the ghetto brown girls? I only knew of a small amount at my university. Most of the ones I associated with were a little classier.

Post: #37

Great post P Dog.

Indian guys are still far better off than Asian guys. Asian girls openly express contempt towards their men and put White guys above their own. I've never heard Indian girls do this - there's less white cock worship with Indian women, and many will hold out for a high status Indian guy before considering a white guy.

Another reality is all the Indian dudes going back to the motherland to find young virgin wives (hence the growing single 30+ Westernized Indian female phenomenon). All in all Indian guys don't really have it all that bad.

Post: #38

I am momentarily right near India, and I could probably afford to go to India, but honestly why? It's crowded everywhere in China and India has as many people but is like 1/4 the size, it's dirty everywhere in China but India sounds far, far worse and the women? I have fucked a few Americanized Indian girls back home, and as has been said, even if they are hot, its more than likely their parents control their lives, they're pushy and (how has this not been mentioned?), they're pretty hairy. The country just has no appeal to me.

I mean I'm sure Indian guys with game exist, but just look at the Bollywood cinema that the country devours; unrequited beta love sagas, beta pedestal stories, beta adventure epics etc etc etc.,

However, the East-Asian thing and no game, I mean I don't know; they don't have game like we do, these guys come to the US and Canada and go years without getting pussy (because in the US and Canada, our Asian women date white guys), but over here, I always see busted, nerdy or goofy looking dudes with nice girls, though that's because over here, women are encouraged to go after men that treat them well and can provide, not men who turn them on. Game or no game? Unsure, but certainly a whole other thing.

Post: #39

(05-07-2012 09:10 AM)at350zguyy Wrote:  P dog,

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Parlay and I had this discussion and he even wrote a post on his blog about Indian guys. Definitely are beta by default. Very needy, passive, and pedastalizing for sure.

Where are you finding the ghetto brown girls? I only knew of a small amount at my university. Most of the ones I associated with were a little classier.

All the brown girls I know are via the Buddhist temple my family occasionally drag me along to or via friends of friends etc (Indian in the later). The ghetto ones aren't actually ghetto, that's the thing. They all want to be Doctors and shit, many of the hot ones just ACT ghetto with their snapbacks and saying n*gga all the time and heavy diet of hip-hop. Only the young hot ones do this. Not all of them but they're more visible because they go out more. It could just be Australia (I know it happens just as much in other aussie cities) but somehow I doubt that.

Anyway, the worst part is these wannabe ghetto brown sluts get absolutely worshipped by the beta brown masses. When they can't get in with them they then say they only like white girls and blame them for all their girl problems. Unless they have few brown friends then I guarantee all of you that the whole "I only go for white girls" thing is bullshit. They've tried and failed within their own race, I assure you.

Edit: @Nonpareil. I've spent time in both China (major cities on the East Coast) and in South Asia and yes, China is a lot cleaner and safer and the women are better looking.

FUN FACT: A lot of the brown TV actresses and models in Mumbai and Colombo double as escorts. So do many flight attendants. Don't tell the local brown dudes though, they'd have a heart attack.

Post: #40

There is a niche for brown chicks in Brampton (a brown-ified area in the GTA). A couple of non brown guys smash brown quite well there.

I think my next challenge might to hit a brown lizard from every major brown country (India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh).

Post: #41

(05-07-2012 09:23 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 09:10 AM)at350zguyy Wrote:  P dog,

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Parlay and I had this discussion and he even wrote a post on his blog about Indian guys. Definitely are beta by default. Very needy, passive, and pedastalizing for sure.

Where are you finding the ghetto brown girls? I only knew of a small amount at my university. Most of the ones I associated with were a little classier.

All the brown girls I know are via the Buddhist temple my family occasionally drag me along to or via friends of friends etc (Indian in the later). The ghetto ones aren't actually ghetto, that's the thing. They all want to be Doctors and shit, many of the hot ones just ACT ghetto with their snapbacks and saying n*gga all the time and heavy diet of hip-hop. Only the young hot ones do this. Not all of them but they're more visible because they go out more. It could just be Australia (I know it happens just as much in other aussie cities) but somehow I doubt that.

Anyway, the worst part is these wannabe ghetto brown sluts get absolutely worshipped by the beta brown masses. When they can't get in with them they then say they only like white girls and blame them for all their girl problems. Unless they're like me with overwhelmingly non-brown friends (my school has very few) then I guarantee all of you that the whole "I only go for white girls" thing is bullshit. They've tried and failed within their own race, I assure you.

some interesting observations. the brown girls i see acting ghetto are generally guyanese or something. ive met a small amount of brown girls that act ghetto, but for the most part they are 'normal' in that sense.

perhaps its different in other areas/universities. and no matter what they act like, they are definitely worshipped by the betaness. part of the reason i stopped hanging out with the brown.

Post: #42

I'll tell you guys that before this forum I had no prior knowledge of India or Indian dudes. One could walk in my office and I would have no clue where he's from. I assumed the place was a fuckfest because of population. Find a girl and slide it in kinda deal.

Since then. I've been cockblocked by Indian guys violently. Them yelling and screaming like bitches at me for approaching girls that are near.
I now have an Indian guy working next to me named Sanjay. I asked his partner if he pulls. He said if there's no mathematical equation behind the interactions with a woman he's out. So no. Never. The customer that I've wanted to bang the most here was in my parking lot and I was giving her the charm. He walks right up and starts talking to her about all this Bollywood mafia shit to keep Greeks inline. Another crazy cockblock.

That's it for me. Next time I will deal with it all the way to the end. I'm curious how much I'm going to have to push to cause the dude to meltdown. I'm guessing not to far.

Post: #43

mech, i'm surprised that they even have the nerve to yell and bitch at you for approaching girls. what kinds of things would they say to you?

Post: #44

(05-07-2012 10:40 AM)at350zguyy Wrote:  mech, i'm surprised that they even have the nerve to yell and bitch at you for approaching girls. what kinds of things would they say to you?

I opened a black girl and was chatting with her. She was sitting next to him and he overheard me telling her that I was black (half) Even though I'm not.
He freaked out. Telling her I'm not black and calling me a liar.

The second dude just got in my face and kept saying You cant talk to these girls over and over and told them not to talk to me over and over.
Ali was there watching maybe he can chime in.

And ofcourse there's Sanjay. I don't think that will be his last block. He's next door and sees what goes on here at my work. I have high pussy flow.

Post: #45

unreal. when i've been sarging the indians usually stay quiet.

when parlay and i were talking to a 2 set on the train in nyc and a tiny little white beta orbiter interrupted us.

ive never been cockblocked by an indian guy or even seen them attempt to cockblock.

Post: #46

(05-07-2012 11:22 AM)at350zguyy Wrote:  unreal. when i've been sarging the indians usually stay quiet.

when parlay and i were talking to a 2 set on the train in nyc and a tiny little white beta orbiter interrupted us.

ive never been cockblocked by an indian guy or even seen them attempt to cockblock.

Well in all fairness I probably cockblocked them first. Or what they thought anyway.

Post: #47

There are a few hot indian chick IMO but they're far and few between...
HAd to laugh at that link Roosh posted check out post #9

Post: #48

I don't want to criticize the forum because there's so much gold here....but this whole Indian thing should be put to rest. Ban the trolls...and move on. No need to pile on the Indian dudes. We know we have an uphill battle, there's no point in beating a dead horse. If a guy is legitimately interested in overcoming the stereotypes, help him out. Indian dudes here are obsessed with race...well...because of all the negative propaganda that we read about Indian guys on the forum. Instead of bashing Indians, focus on what they can do to improve their lot.

Post: #49

(05-06-2012 09:24 PM)YoungGunner Wrote:  Is it just me or are there a lot of players on the bodybuilding forum? Do we have a lot of members of both here?

Yes many on Misc know about the manosphere. If you do a search on "roosh" there will be many threads.

I really don't mean to get on Indian guys with this thread, just the ones who are a bit too obsessed with race.

Post: #50

(05-06-2012 11:53 PM)houston Wrote:  Some guy on here named global Baller ONLY talks about black related things. I don't even think his information is accurate but I would classify him as a black troll from his posts.

Yes, Global Baller is the worst. Somebody posted a data sheet on New Orleans a while back. This guy goes in there and posts about police brutality in New Orleans against the black community, completely derailing the thread. I think he needs to create his own brotha travel guide.