Post: #1

OK, so I've known this girl from high school, and we were always really close friends since sophomore year. I had a crush on her, and since I was a fag, I hung out with her, and eventually became her "girlfrann". We've been hanging out like almost every week for three years now.

But at the beginning of this year, I got into game, realized how much of a fag I was, and saw how being her "girlfrann" was really castrating me. We hung out a lot less this year, cuz she goes to college in CT (I'm in NJ), but every time she comes home for a break or something, she always txts me excitedly about how she can't wait to hang out. It's been a drag, but I was kinda able to tolerate hanging out with her once a month, instead of 80 times a week.

Anyway, now that it's approaching summertime, she just posted on my fb wall saying how she's coming home this friday and she can't wait to see me, yadda yadda, and hang out in the summer. And I really don't know if i can take it again lol. Last summer, we hung out like all the freakin time, and it was just emasculating. She has like no friends in NJ except me, so I'm the only one she can hang out with.

And tbh, she's really nice, and I do consider her a good friend. But I just can't hang out with her like all the time. I mean, I'm a single straight guy, and I just can't keep hanging out with a really really really hot girl every week that I'm "just friends" with.

I know there's no instant fix, but does anyone have any advice about this friendzone hell? I don't wanna go out with her, I just don't wanna be "girlfranns" anymore.

(ps sorry for the essay length post, lmao)

Post: #2

I don't see the problem here. Go get some drinks and escalate with her. Get rid of her if she's not having it. Why haven't you attempted to fuck her before? This is your fault that you're in the friend zone.

Post: #3

Alcohol my brotha. Get her alone, drunk and laughing and go for the kiss.

Only 2 possible things can happen:

1. She's into it and you bang her
2. She gets pissed off and never calls you again

Win-Win for you. Plus you'll have a funny story to tell to your friends.

Post: #4

(04-30-2012 07:09 PM)houston Wrote:  I don't see the problem here. Go get some drinks and escalate with her. Get rid of her if she's not having it. Why haven't you attempted to fuck her before? This is your fault that you're in the friend zone.

i know its my fault. i was a complete beta in high school, and I let her walk all over me, call me about her boyfriends, ask me for homework help, etc. and now sex with me is like the farthest thing from her mind.

I dont know...maybe escalating with her is the right thing to do.

Ugh, I just really cant be "bffs" with a 9 if we're not fucking. and yah, she's a solid 9, like everyone in high school wanted to fuck her. idk, it's just that we've been real tight for years. but, i just don't wanna hang out with her as much as she does.

maybe alcohol is the answer lol.

Post: #5

The Friendzone has the gravitational pull of a black hole; once you are in it, the odds you will ever escape are remote.

If you don't want to be her beta orbiter anymore, then follow the above advice-apply alcohol liberally and escalate fast and hard.

But be ready for the reaction you will likely get from her-shock and horror

Write it off as a learning experience and vow to learn the game skills that will insure that you will avoid the FZ in the future

Post: #6

Get another girl interested in you, and let your friend know by "accident." Use jealousy plot line to get her to think of you sexually. I don't think I'd try the alcohol route simply because there has been too much friendship between you guys. It will likely blow out, and then you might lose her as a friend. Also, why not go out with her and hit on other girls, use her as social proof. She has value that way too. You got a lemon, so make lemonade.

Post: #7

This.

1. Ask her to go to a bar together for a drink
2. Continue to your place for another drink
3. Bang

(04-30-2012 07:10 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  Alcohol my brotha. Get her alone, drunk and laughing and go for the kiss.

Only 2 possible things can happen:

1. She's into it and you bang her
2. She gets pissed off and never calls you again

Win-Win for you. Plus you'll have a funny story to tell to your friends.

Post: #8

IMO there are three options:

1. Make the friendzone work for your advantage towards getting other girls. Her commenting on your facebook and you being seen with her is a DHV. Use her for her social circle to meet new girls.

Or if you're determined to try to bang:

2. Like they said, use alcohol and go for broke. Be prepared for an awkward blowout, and possibly hurting your reputation.

3. Cut off contact for a while--long enough for her to "reset" her image of you. Since you have known each other for a long time, this will need to be a while. Then get back into her life, redefined as an alpha.

Personally, I'd suggest #1. No risk, no loss of a friend. The only reason you wouldn't look elsewhere for sex is you probably have oneitis with this girl.

Post: #9

I hung out with dorky but hot 9 chicks in HS, never fucked one either.

Let me advocate a damage control strategy;

1) reframe the possible upcoming rejection as being a sign of your increasing maturity and your new, higher standards

2) reframe her hot pert ass as part of someone who has been emotionally exploiting you while making sexy time with other guys-- in other words reframe her as a user

Post: #10

(04-30-2012 07:10 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  Alcohol my brotha. Get her alone, drunk and laughing and go for the kiss.
Only 2 possible things can happen:
1. She's into it and you bang her
2. She gets pissed off and never calls you again

This is true. However the chance of #1 is quite low, I'd say 5-10%. So if this girl has a large social circle and can introduce him to her cute friends, I wouldn't waste it.

A key in a social circle gaming is to have a few female friends - real friends - who see you as a high value guy but who you don't want to bang.

Post: #11

I saved this helpful guide, which you may find useful should you decide to take this route:

Quote:So, you're in love with one of your friends, but she has a boyfriend and probably wouldn't have sex with you anyway.

What you will need: 1 x knife, 1 x ring, access to a sunbed, the ability to grow a beard.

Step One: Place the ring on your wedding finger and avoid contact with your friend for a month.

Step Two: Stop shaving and use the sunbed to gain a tan.

Step Three: After a month when your beard is full and your tan is noticeable, remove the ring from your finger.

Step Four: Remove all your clothes and break into your friend's house.

Step Five: Use the knife to cut your body in various places. Avoid the face. If possible, focus on your back. The more blood the better.

Step Six: Enter your friend's bedroom and lie face down on the floor. Wait for her return.

Step Seven: When she enters the room pretend to be unconscious. Allow her to turn you over and try to wake you for a few seconds before you open your eyes. The injuries to your body will serve as a distraction to your nakedness. She will be more concerned about your wellbeing instead of fearing the naked man in her room.

Step Eight: When she asks you what's happened you should ignore her questions. Instead you must act confused and ask the date. If it's September 15th she will say 'September 15th' to which you must reply 'No, what year is it?'

Step Nine: Upon hearing the year say the words 'It worked.' Pretend to lose consciousness again for a few seconds, implying that whatever it is that has worked took a great effort.

Step Ten: If your friend is a curious person she will probably ask 'What worked?', even if she doesn't ask this question it is important that you now say the words '(Insert Friend's Name), I'm from the future' in your most deadpan voice.

Step Eleven: Pause for ten seconds to allow the incrediblness of the situation to sink in. There will be no reason for her to doubt your claim, because your beard will make you appear many years older and your cuts would add weight to the idea that you've come from a post-apocalyptic future where a war is currently taking place.

Step Twelve: Raise your left hand to your face. All women are very observant, so your friend will immediately notice the tanline on your wedding finger. If she is educated to a decent standard she will realise that you are married and your ring has simply disappeared, because clothing and other items cannot travel through time. Your nudity will support this.

Step Thirteen: Now comes the hard part - The monologue. In your own words you must give a speech in which you mention all of these key points:
You are married to each other in the future
Her current boyfriend is dead
The world is coming to an end. It's up to you to pick a reason, but I would recommend a war against machines. This whole situation will be backed up by the Terminator franchise
In the future your relationship is not going well
You've come back in time because you can't help but feel that she would have been happier with her current boyfriend if he hadn't been killed
Her current boyfriend is going to be hit by a bus on a day six months from her present. She should stop him going to work that day
If she does exactly what you say this current version of yourself will be erased and you will never get married. If she questions this flaw in your time travel logic, because you cannot change the past, simply reference Back to the Future
Step Fourteen: Unless your friend is made of stone she will now be overcome by emotion, especially at your selflessness. Get to your feet and go to kiss her goodbye. It is important that you do this with the confidence of a man who has done this to her many times.

Step Fifteen: There is now no possible way that you aren't about to have sex with her. You're naked, kissing her, in her bedroom, agreeing to erase a version of yourself from history to make her happy. And as far as she knows you've had sex many times in a future that will no longer happen, so she thinks to herself that maybe she should have one memory of it.

Step Sixteen: After having the sex, ask to borrow some clothes then leave.

Step Seventeen: Shave off your beard and coat your wedding finger in fake tan. Carry on as if nothing has happened. There will be three possible outcomes:
During the sex some feelings that she didn't know existed are awakened and she will leave her boyfriend for you.
Life will carry on as normal.
You will be filled with guilt because of this moral grey area where you aren't entirely sure if what you've done counts as some kind of low level rape. You will take your own life by hanging, overdose or wrist cutting.

Post: #12

(05-04-2012 03:33 PM)RandalGraves Wrote:  IMO there are three options:

1. Make the friendzone work for your advantage towards getting other girls. Her commenting on your facebook and you being seen with her is a DHV. Use her for her social circle to meet new girls.

Or if you're determined to try to bang:

2. Like they said, use alcohol and go for broke. Be prepared for an awkward blowout, and possibly hurting your reputation.

3. Cut off contact for a while--long enough for her to "reset" her image of you. Since you have known each other for a long time, this will need to be a while. Then get back into her life, redefined as an alpha.

Personally, I'd suggest #1. No risk, no loss of a friend. The only reason you wouldn't look elsewhere for sex is you probably have oneitis with this girl.

I'm actually doing #1 right now with a girl I'm "talking to". I think it's kinda working for me. I like it because my friend is really freakin hot, and so girls seeing her post all over my FB wall can't be a bad thing. The girl I'm talking to even brought her up.

Post: #13

(05-05-2012 01:19 PM)Fujiwara Wrote:  I saved this helpful guide, which you may find useful should you decide to take this route:

Quote:So, you're in love with one of your friends, but she has a boyfriend and probably wouldn't have sex with you anyway.

What you will need: 1 x knife, 1 x ring, access to a sunbed, the ability to grow a beard.

Step One: Place the ring on your wedding finger and avoid contact with your friend for a month.

Step Two: Stop shaving and use the sunbed to gain a tan.

Step Three: After a month when your beard is full and your tan is noticeable, remove the ring from your finger.

Step Four: Remove all your clothes and break into your friend's house.

Step Five: Use the knife to cut your body in various places. Avoid the face. If possible, focus on your back. The more blood the better.

Step Six: Enter your friend's bedroom and lie face down on the floor. Wait for her return.

Step Seven: When she enters the room pretend to be unconscious. Allow her to turn you over and try to wake you for a few seconds before you open your eyes. The injuries to your body will serve as a distraction to your nakedness. She will be more concerned about your wellbeing instead of fearing the naked man in her room.

Step Eight: When she asks you what's happened you should ignore her questions. Instead you must act confused and ask the date. If it's September 15th she will say 'September 15th' to which you must reply 'No, what year is it?'

Step Nine: Upon hearing the year say the words 'It worked.' Pretend to lose consciousness again for a few seconds, implying that whatever it is that has worked took a great effort.

Step Ten: If your friend is a curious person she will probably ask 'What worked?', even if she doesn't ask this question it is important that you now say the words '(Insert Friend's Name), I'm from the future' in your most deadpan voice.

Step Eleven: Pause for ten seconds to allow the incrediblness of the situation to sink in. There will be no reason for her to doubt your claim, because your beard will make you appear many years older and your cuts would add weight to the idea that you've come from a post-apocalyptic future where a war is currently taking place.

Step Twelve: Raise your left hand to your face. All women are very observant, so your friend will immediately notice the tanline on your wedding finger. If she is educated to a decent standard she will realise that you are married and your ring has simply disappeared, because clothing and other items cannot travel through time. Your nudity will support this.

Step Thirteen: Now comes the hard part - The monologue. In your own words you must give a speech in which you mention all of these key points:
You are married to each other in the future
Her current boyfriend is dead
The world is coming to an end. It's up to you to pick a reason, but I would recommend a war against machines. This whole situation will be backed up by the Terminator franchise
In the future your relationship is not going well
You've come back in time because you can't help but feel that she would have been happier with her current boyfriend if he hadn't been killed
Her current boyfriend is going to be hit by a bus on a day six months from her present. She should stop him going to work that day
If she does exactly what you say this current version of yourself will be erased and you will never get married. If she questions this flaw in your time travel logic, because you cannot change the past, simply reference Back to the Future
Step Fourteen: Unless your friend is made of stone she will now be overcome by emotion, especially at your selflessness. Get to your feet and go to kiss her goodbye. It is important that you do this with the confidence of a man who has done this to her many times.

Step Fifteen: There is now no possible way that you aren't about to have sex with her. You're naked, kissing her, in her bedroom, agreeing to erase a version of yourself from history to make her happy. And as far as she knows you've had sex many times in a future that will no longer happen, so she thinks to herself that maybe she should have one memory of it.

Step Sixteen: After having the sex, ask to borrow some clothes then leave.

Step Seventeen: Shave off your beard and coat your wedding finger in fake tan. Carry on as if nothing has happened. There will be three possible outcomes:
During the sex some feelings that she didn't know existed are awakened and she will leave her boyfriend for you.
Life will carry on as normal.
You will be filled with guilt because of this moral grey area where you aren't entirely sure if what you've done counts as some kind of low level rape. You will take your own life by hanging, overdose or wrist cutting.

Why didn't I think of that. Imma try it next week, I'll let you know how it goes lmao.