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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
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(04-11-2012 12:27 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  @Tuth, Did you ban Entropy after i ranted away on his "for the love of his game" post ?
I see its in your sig now. That guy was a true keyboard playa

No. My signature was inspired by a random post that said "I love game" or something to that effect. Right around then, I was thinking "for the love god" about something unrelated, and that turned into "for the love of game!" I made myself laugh and though it was worth reusing. I didn't realize someone had written something kind of similar. I'm trademarking the line for myself.

Hooligan Harry, Kona and I have previously called Entropy out as a fraud, plus he has been temporarily banned in the past. Though it took a while, his permanent banning was inevitable.

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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
(04-11-2012 03:15 PM)deathtofatties Wrote:  Good news indeed. They'll be making kids, mostly female, and it is known that Mixed-race women tend to have the nicest bodies.

I've spoken before about how appealing the Black + Asian mix really can be. Eurasians and Mulatas get lots of attention, but the Blasian mix is an extremely underrated one. I'm a tad biased, but I really believe that. I've long wished it were more common, and it is good to see that it might become just so.

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Let me ask you this. What's the racial totem pole thing on rooshv.com?
So gome guy reads that and ask logical question about racial discrimination on dating. But he gets banned??

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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
Have you noticed that there is always at least one thread where race is being discussed (it's the ALEC thread right now)? It's like the forum needs a race outlet.

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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
On the one hand, it's understandable. It affects everyone's socialization, identity, and self-worth to a certain extent as some race-predominant features are deemed more desirable than others. Since guys are usually trying to obtain a woman's acceptance, this becomes a bigger issue.

OTOH, I don't see how this contributes to anything. It accentuates negativity and reinforces low self-esteem among the junior members. If you can believe it, I've known good-looking ethnic guys who struggled or had to struggle with these self-limiting beliefs b/c someone else spread the word that all white girls don't like Asian guys, for instance. Yeah, they generally don't like geeky,ugly or average looking guys of any race. I seriously wonder if part of that probably lies in some serious hate: I'm a black guy who can't get Latina girls, let me mentally cockblock this young black kid's head while I'm at it since he might have potential.

A better approach might be to start threads that say ... in light of these challenges, this is what we/you can do. That's something that contributes, rather than another bitching thread.

The other issue with the race threads is that we have no way to judge the relative merits of the author's statements. Is the author ugly, fat, boring, or poor? Does he have poor social skills and lack of experience with women? Is he an average or handsome guy who is gunning for girls OUT OF HIS LEAGUE? Even if a guy is young and good-looking, he is totally unmatched against a young and equally good-looking woman. Same applies for average looking guy or fat guy. All newbs who want to post race threads should post their pix and pix of their friends. So we can judge.

Because we have no relative basis to judge the poster's merits, is he using race as a crutch? It becomes too easy to blame race, an immutable attribute, so that we can assign blame on everybody else and society. A better approach might be to post your limitations and ask what you can do to improve in other areas. Or actually improve & make some progress and report here so that others can learn.

One approach is a pity party that drags other people down. The other approach helps others.

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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
If you walk into a bar and you think every girl in there is racist...it's gonna KILL your game. I'm not saying there isn't a lot of truth to what these guys are saying. It's just pointless to dwell on it. How is complaining about white girls gonna get you white girls?

If these race trolls refocused their energies from complaining on RVF to actually aggressively pursuing white chics they'd be so much happier.
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(04-11-2012 07:53 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Have you noticed that there is always at least one thread where race is being discussed (it's the ALEC thread right now)? It's like the forum needs a race outlet.

Race threads suck. I honestly do not like how they always turn into bashing white people. It's like there's extremely pervasive paranoia among black people that white people are out to oppress them and destroy them.

Edit: I know what I said was strong, but that's just the gist I get from race threads. Reading through the ALEC thread that's how I perceive the opinions on display.
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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
I guess it's just the stereotypes there right? Blacks, mexicans, asians all seem to suffer from being stereotyped as (somewhat) low-value to some degree in the US.

Mexican/asian friends definitely report it as a disadvantage with white girls there ( I tell them its no big deal and they could push through it, but they experience it nonetheless).

Interestingly I dont think its as much of a disadvantage in Britain, even though our society is less of a melting pot. Not sure of the reason for this, but middle class white girls are quite open to black, asian (indian/pakistani), latin guys. Posh girls it's another story, but then they are also judgemental of white guys without the right clothes/accent.

Whatever the race, if the guy is educated and well put together, and especially British-born, its not really a surprise to see him with a decent middle class white girl here. Not fully sure of the "why".
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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
Are your Mexican/Asian friends striking out with just white girls, or all girls? Are they getting latina, asian and black snatch on a regular basis but suffering a drought of white pussy? Unless this or something similar is the case then like you said they need to quit bitching and keep improving their game.

I will concede however that being a FOB "Fresh off the Boat" and having a strong accent and not being assimilated into mainstream culture will hurt a guy but FOB dudes (mainly used for East and South Asians) prefer marrying within their own ethnicity anyway which downplays the issue. In the case of FOB's it's not so much about race but about coming from a vastly different culture.
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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
I was amazed how many east Asian French men I saw dating white French girls when I was in France. For some reason I feel European girls are more open about dating non-whites than white girls in the states.

I live in DC and I don't even BOTHER with white girls any more, since they're all from the fucking white-ass midwest. It's simply not worth the return on my investment. 3% success rate at best versus like 30%. No contest. I'm six foot and been told I have a great face, but hell if that helps my skinny ass at all.

I barely remember what pink nips look like. I'm a huge arab/indian/asian bender right now. No white girls in almost like a year.
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(04-12-2012 01:35 AM)All or Nothing Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 07:53 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Have you noticed that there is always at least one thread where race is being discussed (it's the ALEC thread right now)? It's like the forum needs a race outlet.

Race threads suck. I honestly do not like how they always turn into bashing white people. It's like there's extremely pervasive paranoia among black people that white people are out to oppress them and destroy them.

Edit: I know what I said was strong, but that's just the gist I get from race threads. Reading through the ALEC thread that's how I perceive the opinions on display.

Is it possible that the gist you get comes from a very selective perspective? You read the ALEC thread and see it as white bashing, but somehow aren't bothered by the posts that basically equate black skin with criminality?

Personally, I try to stay away from discussing either race or politics, because I know better than to try and change someone's mind on the internet. That being said, there's some significant overlap between the game/anti-feminist crowd and the race realist crowd and when people start throwing out psuedo-scientific nonsense as "proof" that one race is this and another race is that, I speak up.

I'm not saying that you've ever done anything like this, but surely you can understand how a black forum member might take umbrage to that kind of talk.
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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
Spending some time in SE DC gets any fella buying into race realism pretty fast. And if race was really just skin color, you wouldn't be able to tell blacks and Indians apart.
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(04-12-2012 10:06 AM)Scarlet_Terror Wrote:  Spending some time in SE DC gets any fella buying into race realism pretty fast. And if race was really just skin color, you wouldn't be able to tell blacks and Indians apart.

And what about spending some time in West Virginia or the Florida panhandle?

Thanks for proving my point.
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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
Living in the midwest as a minority, I've found that a lot of white girls are willing to fuck others of different races, but they like to keep it on the down low away from friends and family who might judge them. So genuine relationships often don't happen, but fucking them is easy enough.
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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
What minority are you? I don't even bother with midwestern girls any more.
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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
I don't understand why guys wanna focus on trivial, non-detrimental issues such as race when gaming women instead of focusing on increasing their conversational skills, their bench press amount, get better clothing style.

IMO, why add an unnecessary obstacle to your game which is only true in your head, i.e race problem.

I'm of middle eastern background, yes i have somewhat light features, greek/italian look, living in the worst city possibly coming second or on the same grounds as D.C, a.k.a Toronto.

However i get treated the same way my best friends do (white guys/blonde hair). In fact on many occasions women (mainly white/latin) would choose me over them. I went to take spanish learning center for some lessons and i almost got raped there by girls.

In fact, funny thing is that my white guy friends ENVY me because i'm somewhat darker, and most of them are pale as ghosts. I'm waiting till summer settles in, temperature rises, to go for a good beach tan, and get that golden skin. Yes this is how proud i am that i have darker skin, and i fuckin make it DARKER in the summer, tanning on the beach/playing beach volleyball.

The weird thing is that i don't get any attention sometimes for asian/black women which sets a limitation that i need to overcome by game/plowing through their defenses.

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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
Race must be really tough in America. I hope I have been trained well enough.

I think the good thing here, is that most cats here have legs and cars plus some money (for gas, plane tickets and hotel accomodation). With that in mind, just travel to where they are either open to your race or they like them.
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The same way I wouldn't care if we discussed about how hard is it for a Amazonian pigmy dwarf to get azz in North Carolina. Why not? Because I am not a pigmy from the Amazon.

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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
Haha you look like Crixis? That's pretty bad ass.

I didn't read the rest of the thread but I think it's common sense and comes down to a few things for American women:

1) Groupthink / Social backlash
2) Irrational prejudice / racism
3) Image (i.e. will bang all sorts of foreigners / other races in secret but wants to bring home a man of her own race to her parents)

Chicks spend a lot more time worrying about what other people think about them and it heavily influences their dating habits.

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(04-12-2012 03:38 PM)Gmac Wrote:  Haha you look like Crixis? That's pretty bad ass.

I didn't read the rest of the thread but I think it's common sense and comes down to a few things for American women:

1) Groupthink / Social backlash
2) Irrational prejudice / racism
3) Image (i.e. will bang all sorts of foreigners / other races in secret but wants to bring home a man of her own race to her parents)

Chicks spend a lot more time worrying about what other people think about them and it heavily influences their dating habits.

Yes. Honestly, I think American women are more hung up on CONFORMITY than RACE. It's gotta' slot in with their narrow view of increasing their own social capital... with no unpleasant ramifications. In a weird way, they're DTF but the racial constructs of the past affect others' perceptions, and thus, theirs.
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(04-12-2012 11:00 AM)Perseus Wrote:  IMO, why add an unnecessary obstacle to your game which is only true in your head, i.e race problem.

Because, depending on where and who you are, they are not trivial or imaginary. For those folks, taking the head-in-sand approach is unwise. I've been there, done that-it doesn't work. Reality will hit you in the face sooner or later.

Canada is well known to be more racially open than the USA, and Europe still more so. You'll note that most of the guys going on most loudly about the downsides of being a minority and dating (I'm including myself here) are Americans, with a bias towards the East Coast.

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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
They want to bang black guys, but they don't want to be known for doing it
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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
Maybe a Jay Sean lookin Indian dude (has some swag, co-signed by Lil Wayne / Baby, good looks & can sing) could mesh with a Rihanna (islander) or even Nicki Minaj (has a little islander / Indian in her) type chick. Especially some place like Toronto, NYC, or London where all of these folks are prevalent in the local demographics.

(04-11-2012 11:00 AM)assman Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 09:13 AM)Moma Wrote:  The question is, do they like each other? I have some East Asian friends and we always enjoy candid convo about each other's culture. All of them hum and hah with political correctness when I ask them the question, by and large, they have no interest in black lizards.
I think the disinterest runs in both directions, which is why I said the pairing is very unlikely. But ask black lizards - I'd bet that, on average, they deem East Asian men the least attractive. This has been my impression from talking about interracial dating with black women.
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RE: Million dollar question: Why are American women so hung up on race?
I think all the posters have a valid point. From what I've seen and through my own experiences if you are a minority trying to date/bang a white girl you have to have more of your shit together than the average white guy trying for the same girl.

- better job
- better education
- more fit, good looking
- some sort of higher value/status

There is still some degree of stigma of interracial dating. OKcupid did a study on this and it showed that white girls overwhelmingly go only for white guys. That being said among educated chicks with good jobs social/educational compatibility plays more of an issue.
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