Post: #51

Man great work! Wish I was back in Brazil right now to join ya. You worked your ass off covering as many aspects as possible in both cities.

Voce fala bem portugues?

(02-27-2015 12:36 AM)thevirgin Wrote:  What I am seeing in Sao Paulo is just tons of 7's everywhere. 9's are hard to find. They are not running around in the street here. Maybe a handful of them in the hottest clubs. I didn't see a lot of hot girls walking on Paulista after 5pm.

Maybe try walking in the heart of Jardim Paulista (I didn't do this until my last night there) on a Saturday/Sunday where all the rich residential gals and shoppers walk around. Many domestic tourists also love the cafes and shopping options of Rua Oscar Freire. Even though I stayed on the cusp of Jardim Paulista, I didn't realize this till I left. I got a street makeout at night within 2 minutes of meeting this chick who checked me out. I could've closed her the next day...but had to fly back home with bad time management lol.

Or can maybe walk around Itaim Bibi without paying the club covers of a Sat night. Perhaps restaurant game somewhere.

(02-27-2015 12:36 AM)thevirgin Wrote:  Royal Club at 2am had zero people outside and they let me right in, I paid 200 and there were tons of hot girls in there, and a roof smoking area where they serve mixed drinks but no beer or food. Great electronic music. Quite a bit smaller than Dedge. Roof like 1/3 as big. A bit larger than She Rocks. I did the most work outside at the hot dog stand when people started leaving about 4am. This might be a good strategy if living near a club, to just not even go to the club and hang out on the street at 4am and try to pull. It works in LA.

Royal is quite decent. I dealt with white knighting like none other. Or when I had space with a chick, an uber aggressive local dude would sit/stand between me & gal displaying their thirst. This in turn caused those same gals I was conversing with to walk away.

She Rocks is nice. I went with Shotgun. He made out within 10 minutes of meeting a chick & thought he was gone. I literally did 6-7 approaches in there and ran out because white knighting was awful again. Little did I know that Shotgun was still in there only to follow a chick to the next venue & get laid, haha.

(02-27-2015 12:36 AM)thevirgin Wrote:  Wednesday: Don't go to woods if you don't want to pay the 200 to get into Camarote. That section has more people than are in the entire rest of the club, and all the hot girls. All the camarote girls will come downstairs at some point, but you'd have to be real aggressive and you'd have a real small window to hit on them, and have way less success. Even when you're in the camarote, most of the girls are associated with a table and guys will come up and block you when you hit on them.

Camarote at Woods always sounded like a slam dunk based on past testimonies. I appreciate you shedding light on that however!

(02-27-2015 12:36 AM)thevirgin Wrote:  The one big advantage in Brazil vs LA/Miami is cost. With the exchange rate currently at 2.88 reais per 1 dollar, a 200 BRL entrance cost is less than 70 USD, which would be a super cheap night out in LA. Normally you tip the bouncer $100 USD to get in, and then your drinks are $20. Or you split a bottle for about $350 each.

Much to the dismay of many right now in the country...except for tourists.

(02-27-2015 12:36 AM)thevirgin Wrote:  Don't open in english. I used the opener "do you guys speak english" like ten times, and it is always terrible to say that.

I constantly get in trouble with the standard US push/pull game that is standard to use on 9's in the US. It comes off as rude a big % of the time. If a brazilian wing is there, he can always turn it around for me though. Some of the stuff, I just don't understand how Brazilians don't think it's funny or flirty, like if I point at a girl in my set with giant tits and say "ela tem peitos muito pequenos", no one laughs.

Compared with the US, the guys are way harder to deal with in Brazil, but the girls are much easier because they encourage each other to hook up instead of dragging their friends away from hot guys.

The university women in SP are way hotter than central americans and comparable to University of Miami, although a bit shorter.

Note to self: try to target university chicks in Sampa next time. Luckily, I speak fluent Portuguese & Spanish (not as good) so opening in English is never an option.

In Tier 2 places like Belo Horizonte or Porto Alegre, talking to random guys will do you favors because they will introduce you to chicks they know, invite you out some other time, etc. It is however harder to make random guy friends in Rio and Sampa...that won't cockblock ya, haha. Certain groups of guy friends I observed in action were cockblocking each other at the clubs too strangely enough.

Push & Pull game upon meeting is harder with Brazilian women at times...esp in Sao Paulo. Many of the guys are oober aggressive..but if they witness a foreigner doing something similiar or a scaled-down version (ala push & pull), they'll condescendingly tell you "NO" in English.

(02-27-2015 12:36 AM)thevirgin Wrote:  Most guys would get the impression that SP women are hotter because they are not fat. You get a similar impression in Canada.
Rio has more 9's. If you don't think so, you didn't go to the right places and probably went to Lapa, where there are none. The best place to find them is on the beach in Barra da Tijuca (20min south of Leblon), and the clubs Miroir and Cave in Ipanema. Boate 021 and the street a few blocks from it Av Olegário Maciel in Barra are also good options during the week, as the nightlife in the main part of Rio sucks when it's not Friday or Saturday. Ipanema/Leblon beach is also decent during the day from about noon-3pm, just not as good as Barra.
SP nightlife options crush Rio.

I'm in the camp that Paulistanas are hotter than Cariocas haha. Must be their Jewish American Princess vibe with the appearances of Italian/Lebanese descent I dig in Sampa. I appreciate those tips on Barra da Tijuca btw.

Post: #52

(02-27-2015 12:36 AM)thevirgin Wrote:  Dedge is great on Saturdays and Mondays. Haven't been on thursday. No idea why Shotgun was having a bad time there lately. Friday is gay night.

Bad ratios, that's why. Never been on a Monday though.

Quote:Villa Country sucks on thursdays. I went on a Thursday like Shotgun said and waited around from 12-2am and everyone seemed to be leaving cause it sucked so much. Now that I've been to more sertenejo clubs, I think maybe this is because there was no live band playing that night, so make sure there is one playing if you go. I saw a huge crowd outside there on friday, but I didn't go in cause none of the people were very hot.

To be honest I haven't been there in ages, but I think it highly depends on who's playing. If there is some big shot sertanejo number playing, you can be sure it will be full of hot girls.

Quote:Vila Mix just before midnight on friday, tons of hot girls in the street and a huge line. Get here even before 12 in order to get in easily. I tried to bribe the bouncer a blue $100 once at 1am, and he wouldn't take it, so I have no idea how Shotgun is getting that done.

1. Talk to him in Portuguese or have someone do that for you. These guys don't speak English.
2. Don't straight up offer him the money, chat to him for a bit and seeing as it's hard to get in through the normal way, ask him if there is not any other way for you to get in ("nao tem algum outro jeito de eu entrar?"). Then show him the bill discreetly, but don't hand it to him. He will excuse himself for a minute, talk to the hostess and give you the green light (I'm pretty sure these sluts get a cut). Then he will ask you for your ID and you give him your ID with the money. It's done this way because they don't want to be seen making extra cash on clients by club managers or owners, or they will likely get fired. By the way, this works everywhere, not only at Villa Mix, but I encourage you to arrive early in order not to finance these guys, and to have a cheaper night overall.

Post: #53

Hey fellas. Want to give a huge obrigado to everyone's mad amount of data that they've dropped on this thread. I'm super stoked about my upcoming trip to Brazil this summer, and advice like this just gets me that much more excited.

I've been learning Portuguese for about a year and a half and have a pretty good level of the language. I also speak French, Spanish, and Italian, so making all the connections with the romance languages is an enormous advantage.

Could you guys give me your honest opinion on amount of time to spend in each city? My trip is going to be 15 days long in June, and I was originally planning on spending 5 days in São Paulo, 5 days in Rio, and 5 days in Salvador to get a good taste of different parts of the country. Do you think this amount of time would be too much/too little for any of these cities? Also, in regards to Salvador, I'm open to suggestions if anyone has another great city that they recommend, but I'd like to have a good mix of tourism, history, food, and gaming wherever I go. Thanks again to everyone for everything they've shared on here. Estou muito agradecido per tudo.

Post: #54

(02-28-2015 06:42 PM)shotgun Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 12:36 AM)thevirgin Wrote:  Dedge is great on Saturdays and Mondays. Haven't been on thursday. No idea why Shotgun was having a bad time there lately. Friday is gay night.

Bad ratios, that's why. Never been on a Monday though.

I think maybe you just hit a few bad nights there. The ratio is usually fine in my experience, but even when it isn't, it's like five times bigger than She Rocks so there's still a lot of targets. Also, the dudes in Dedge don't cockblock and aren't aggressive. Instead they are super friendly and assist you.

Thanks for the advice on the tipping. In LA it's so common that you can just roll up and offer a tip right away. I did actually manage to get a tip done in SP last weekend. A bouncer let me cut in the front of the line in the general entrance when I showed him what was in my hand, and then refused to take my money, and came and found me a couple hours later on the dance floor to get it with a handshake.

Post: #55

Hey Guys - Anyone around and want to meet up??

My Portuguese is terrible, but my game is pretty solid. Absolutely love day game, but night is fun too.

Cheers,

Americano

Post: #56

We currently have a few RVFers in SP.

Would you guys be down for a group meetup?

Post: #57

Sounds great, what about Friday? Im sure shotgun would be up for this too.

Post: #58

Sounds good to me. My WhatsApp is +55 11 98564 8619. Let me know.

Post: #59

I would be up for the meetup.

Post: #60

(03-18-2015 06:14 PM)shotgun Wrote:  I would be up for the meetup.

Hey Guys,

You still down for a meetup tonight? Let me know?

Americano

Post: #61

Hey Guys,

Wanted to update the best (higher end) venues in SP. A bit of a disclaimer here, these places are truly the top tier talent of SP - There are plenty of attractive girls everywhere, but if you want the models, millionaires and well your on a mission go to the following:

Wednesday Night: Villa Mix - Very accessible venue, the VIP area is off to the side, but the dance floor and where the band plays is totally accessible. People in VIP will invariably spend a lot of time on the dance floor giving you plenty of access. Also big enough where you can run around approach plenty of girls and still maintain some good social status. The music is not my favorite, but hey it can be kind of fun.

Thursday Night: Provocateur - Super small, but great electronic music and a really rich well dressed top tier crowd. At some points it becomes far too packed, but probably the best looking, coolest club in SP. With the size and the fact that 1/3rd of the club knows each other (or at least sees each other at the same places every damn week) proceed with a bit of caution.

Friday Night: Ballroom - Bigger than Provoca, smaller than Villa Mix. Same type of music as Provocateur which is great. Their is a huge VIP area behind the DJ booth that you won't know about unless you are in there. Much of the top tier is hidden there. If you can get there or no someone who can get you there DO IT. If not the club is still pretty freaking awesome, beautiful people everywhere.

Saturday Night: Provocateur (again) - same exact thing as Thursday

Again all of these venues, with probably the exception of Villa Mix are a challenge, with a hell of a lot of tip tier talent. Ballroom on Saturday or Provoca on Friday, etc. will still be good, but won't be anywhere near the same. Different promoters work on different nights with different clientele. The models and promoters typically show up at 1-1:30 which is when the place gets really good. You, especially if you don't want to pay a massive sum of money at the door should probably show up closer to 12:30-12:45 and be in before 1.

Quality over quantity. Have fun

Post: #62

Great update in there Americano. How are you liking Sampa overall right now?

I appreciate the update on Ballroom too. Do they by chance have a VIP/Camarote one can purchase in advance?

As for Provacateur, had more success in there on a Sat night than Thurs as I was there both times.
Thursday - Much bitchier chicks. I even got slapped by a model from Abu Dabi because she was a "good Muslim girl" I couldn't hit on.
Saturday - Same calibre of chicks as Thursday. However, they were much nicer this time around so got a makeout from a chick I should have banged. Was hung up about this other chick that one night that I went home upset. The big problem with Sat was that I dealt with much more animosity & cockblocking from other dudes though haha

Post: #63

Sampa is so much fun, kind of hard to leave. Honestly though I didn't come to Brazil just to party and try to hook up with girls. Sampa is a really fun city, but really all it is a big city. If your gonna vacation in Brazil I feel like Rio can give you more of a balance.

On Ballroom I don't think you can buy access, maybe, but from the looks of it everyone in there knew everyone else. Either way certainly doesn't hurt to ask. I had a few friends go to Ballroom last night (Saturday), said it was great too. Different promoters with different groups of girls though, less models more students, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

Thats interesting about Thurs vs Saturday. The exact same people and the same group (at least model wise), go on Thurs & Sat. (20% of the club). Its the other people that are different. On Thurs it should be a lot more industry (they can afford to sleep till 2pm on a Friday) and on Sat it should be more professionals. I'm sure theres some psychological differences in how people should act (industry vs. professionals), but for the most part I gotta believe there similar.

O also I checked out D Edge last night with some friends and personally I was not a fan. Super house, drug fest. Very dark and just did not really like the vibe of the club.

Happy hunting

Post: #64

(03-22-2015 07:21 PM)Americano Wrote:  Thats interesting about Thurs vs Saturday. The exact same people and the same group (at least model wise), go on Thurs & Sat. (20% of the club). Its the other people that are different. On Thurs it should be a lot more industry (they can afford to sleep till 2pm on a Friday) and on Sat it should be more professionals. I'm sure theres some psychological differences in how people should act (industry vs. professionals), but for the most part I gotta believe there similar.

I did indeed also meet models on Sat in Provocateur as well. Just different ones...and you were likely right about more male professionals (and female ones) being there on Sat night too.

The professionals there on Thurs all go home fairly early though...unfortunately the models on Thurs ended up being much less approachable if not fairly hostile. Nothing personal but rather a hilarious experience for me.

Post: #65

For some reason (can't remember why) the meetup never took place.

I'm still down if anyone's also interested.

I suggest next thursday (21/05), 7:30pm. Who's up for it?

Post below and I'll send you details via PM.

Post: #66

I'm in.

(05-15-2015 10:10 PM)Ringo Wrote:  For some reason (can't remember why) the meetup never took place.

I'm still down if anyone's also interested.

I suggest next thursday (21/05), 7:30pm. Who's up for it?

Post below and I'll send you details via PM.

Post: #67

(05-15-2015 10:10 PM)Ringo Wrote:  For some reason (can't remember why) the meetup never took place.

I'm still down if anyone's also interested.

I suggest next thursday (21/05), 7:30pm. Who's up for it?

Post below and I'll send you details via PM.

I've been contacted by 4 members for the meetup tomorrow.

If anyone else is interested, PM me.

Post: #68

We had a nice little meetup yesterday. Thanks Kwisatz, worldtraveler3 and Mad_dog for coming.

Hopefully we can make this a monthly deal.

Post: #69

Are we doing it again next month?

(05-22-2015 08:57 AM)Ringo Wrote:  We had a nice little meetup yesterday. Thanks Kwisatz, worldtraveler3 and Mad_dog for coming.

Hopefully we can make this a monthly deal.

Post: #70

I'm in São Paulo the next few days (until Tuesday morning) and then Rio for several days after. I'd definitely appreciate meeting up if anyone's around, especially in Sampa.

Post: #71

Just a heads up for fellow players in São Paulo: Happn is blowing up.

While Tinder is still decent, the amount of ugly girls there is staggering (specially if you are far from the best neighbourhoods in town).

The talent on Happn blows Tinder out of the water and the logistics for setting up dates are way easier (I get matched with tons of girls within 5 blocks from my home and workplace). The volume of girls isn't nearly as big yet, but the sheer quality makes up for it. Get it while it's hot.

Post: #72

(07-04-2015 10:45 AM)Ringo Wrote:  Just a heads up for fellow players in São Paulo: Happn is blowing up.

While Tinder is still decent, the amount of ugly girls there is staggering (specially if you are far from the best neighbourhoods in town).

The talent on Happn blows Tinder out of the water and the logistics for setting up dates are way easier (I get matched with tons of girls within 5 blocks from my home and workplace). The volume of girls isn't nearly as big yet, but the sheer quality makes up for it. Get it while it's hot.

Are you referring to patricinhas or just regular chicks?

Post: #73

I can attest to Happn being hotter than Tinder right now in SP. It has been for the last couple of months actually. If you are into online game, it's the way to go. Tinder quality is shit these days, mostly lower end girls.

I personally deleted all apps because I don't have the patience at the moment and I can get better quality and faster results cold-approaching girls in parties, not to mention it's much more fun. But each to their own.

Post: #74

I am going to be downtown in Sao Paulo, on Paulista Ave. tomorrow at noon. Anyone up for coffee with me?

Post: #75

I just got into town. I'm down to meet for coffee as well.

(08-28-2015 05:05 PM)Kwisatz Wrote:  I am going to be downtown in Sao Paulo, on Paulista Ave. tomorrow at noon. Anyone up for coffee with me?