Post: #1

Found a cool game blog that few people know about. (He's too harsh on Roosh and Roissy, though.)

He has some good ideas. His most recent one is very catchy: Pass the Pussy Forward.

http://matingmarket.wordpress.com/2012/0...y-forward/

Quote:Your first goal as a man is to get laid. But your second goal — and a very close second it is — is to make it easier for other men to get laid. This means that if you fail to bang a chick, you should always do what you can to make it easier for the next guy to bang her. You must lower her market value in her eyes and/or you must empower her to embrace her sexuality and screw more men, quicker.

I call this “Passing the Pussy Forward.” The more that men do it, the easier it will be for all of us to get laid quickly, easily, and inexpensively.

This happened to me when I was in college and dating a chick who was my age and had only slept with one other guy before me. I was in her bed one morning after a night of snuggling, no sex. This was before I had much game. Her phone rang and I instinctively rolled over and answered it. Some dude’s voice asked for the girl but she was in the bathroom.

Fast forward to the next night. The girl and I had sex in that same bed. Turns out that the guy on the phone was an LJBF of hers. After he called and spoke with me they had lunch and he asked who I was. She said, “Oh, a guy who slept over.” He said, “Did you fuck him?” She said, “No.” He said, “Why not? He sounded cute. Don’t let him get away.”

The next night she and I were screwing.

So here was a guy who was into this chick, wasn’t able to bang her, but passed her pussy forward to me. Without his help I may have never screwed her. And he did this by lowering her perceived market value a little by suggesting that she would lose me if she didn’t screw me. He also empowered her by asking whether she had fucked me.

This is what men should be doing all the time. Pass the Pussy Forward. I do it as much as I can. I’ll give you two examples, once recently when I lowered a woman’s perceived market value, and secondly my continual attempts to make sex feel empowering to women.

I had a first date planned with a chick and we were texting back and forth the day before it was to happen. At some point she said something like, “You’re really hot but I never have sex on the first date. The second date is another story “ Instead of accepting this, I cancelled the date and told her to find someone else. I told her that nothing throws cold water on a man’s libido like a woman saying she wouldn’t sleep with him. She was taken aback and pissed off, but coincidentally a friend of a friend and I were talking months later and he said he had a short fling with her and she had no trouble putting out on the first date. Because of her bad attitude I didn’t bother trying to scrounge for her pussy but instead helped make it easier for other men to screw her quicker, easier and cheaper.

I’ve done this many times over the years to women who have high self-perceived mating market value. If a few men do this to the same woman, before long she’s really easy to screw.

MikeCF has also alluded to this, but never with the catchy phrase, "Pass the forward.

http://dangerandplay.wordpress.com/2011/...hit-tests/

Quote:We approached the bar when I asked my friend whether they served beer. Not knowing the answer, he asked the girls in front of us. “Do we look like we work here,” one bitched.

They weren’t being playful or flirty. They were being bitches. As the game bloggers would say, they had up their “bitch shields.” Fuck them.

“No, but you most assuredly look like someone who has been here before.” My tone was superior, and I actually said “most assuredly.”

The older bitch stared at me, menacingly, waiting for me to smirk. I kept a judgmentally smug expression, non-verbally communicating that she was a worthless bar slut.

So remember, gentlemen, to game lots of women, and smash the ego's of any vain girls you come across so you can pass the pussy forward.

Post: #2

It's not fucking cool. I thought "pass the pussy forward" was to introduce the girls you fail to bang to me.

Post: #3

I agree you should always be gaming women and putting a bitch in her place when she acts like one. But Im skeptical how this can work immediatly unless your in a college like the blogger or you "pass the pussy forward" within a social circle or small town.

Maybe Im being selfish here as Im coming from a large city.

Post: #4

Fuck that!! If I have to bust my ass, dress GQ, DHV, and play endless head games to fuck a 9, I'm certainly not gonna make it easier for the next guy. What's in it for me? Making the world a better place for your fellow man you may think perhaps?

No alpha male would ever do this! Why? Because alphas are selfish assholes, and that's all they need to fuck women every other day.

I'm 37, nobody ever made pussy snatching easy for me, and it keeps me hungry!

You mofos should be thankful a forum like this even exists! In my day, you did not even have a cell phone to call a girl and had to stand outside a pay phone in sub-freezing temps waiting for her to get home!

You fuckers already have it easy!! Now you want it even easier? Fuck you!


"baby, take it easy, I don't want it if it's that easy!" --Tupac Shakur
Mixx

Post: #5

I think passing the pussy forward makes a lot of sense.

Mixx, how do you think you would be able to go to places and bang women into Latin guys if Enrique Inglesias didn't pass the pussy forward? By being a sex symbol, he essentially passed the pussy forward.
We can do what we can for others when we can't get the fanny. Besides, if you are not banging a virgin, you are banging a next man's leftovers, like it or not.
It's the harmony of the universe. As we give, hence we shall receive.

Post: #6

(02-02-2012 01:32 PM)MiXX Wrote:  Fuck that!! If I have to bust my ass, dress GQ, DHV, and play endless head games to fuck a 9, I'm certainly not gonna make it easier for the next guy. What's in it for me? Making the world a better place for your fellow man you may think perhaps?

I'm 37, nobody ever made pussy snatching easy for me, and it keeps me hungry!

The OP should be thankful a forum like this even exists! In my day, you did not even have a cell phone to call a girl and had to stand outside a pay phone in sub-freezing temps waiting for her to get home!

You fuckers already have it easy!! Now you want it even easier? Fuck you!


"baby, take it easy, I don't want it if it's that easy!" --Tupac Shakur
Mixx

It will go in full circle though. If everyone helps each other out, we all win. You won't have to work as hard either.

(02-02-2012 01:37 PM)Moma Wrote:  Besides, if you are not banging a virgin, you are banging a next man's leftovers, like it or not.
It's the harmony of the universe. As we give, hence we shall receive.

Truer words never spoken.

Post: #7

I think it is a great idea to help you're fellow man. The reason men are in such a G-d-awful situation in the West is they have allowed women to work together to change the rules: Feminism, etc. Beta men actually helped them. I can remember Michael Dell and Warren Buffet's son on TV with their wives talking about the charities they support with their money and they both said "women's rights". Enough said, two pussies, fucking it up for other guys.
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I actually make some beta guys uncomfortable to hang out with me because I talk about sex and ask hard questions about girls. Just remember other guys are really not your competition it’s the girls themselves!
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Guys need to learn to help each other and have the balls to be outspoken to girls and other beta guys. If you see a guy's girlfriend with another guy, Damnit, tell him. Unfortunately, many guys are warped and would rather fuck over another guy. That sick idea somehow seems to build a guy's ego more than fucking over a girl. Guys are stupid and very insecure and that is why they are in such a horrible predicament in the West.

Post: #8

This kind of extended wingmanship only has a meaningful application in your social circle game.

If all guys got better at their own game, the pussy would be put in it's place. We wouldn't need to try to pass it forward.

Put a girl in her place because it benefits you.

Post: #9

Quote: The reason men are in such a G-d-awful situation

Why the fuck did you just not type out god?

Post: #10

(02-02-2012 03:03 PM)Scarlet_Terror Wrote:  

Quote: The reason men are in such a G-d-awful situation

Why the fuck did you just not type out god?

Because it's blasphemous.

Post: #11

Quote:Because it's blasphemous.

Must..control...self......

Post: #12

The problem behind this pass the pussy on is, even if all the playa's in the world would follow this tactics, its footprint would still be small.

Come on, how many guys like us are out there ? 1 playa for every 20 betas ?, at best 1 in 10.

That still means that 90% of guys will pedestalize girls and bend over backwards to get pussy.

Its a nice theory but it stays a theory too


I didn't like the other posts of the guy, especcially this one :http://matingmarket.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/men-who-need-foreign-women-are-1-losers-or-2-control-freaks/

Or maybe its geared towards the 90 % of betas out there. Goddamn, i've seen some losers abroad.

edit, i read some more of his posts and seriously dislike the guy. he claims to a into game since 1995 or something but all he does is game denying.

Post: #13

(02-02-2012 04:06 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  I didn't like the other posts of the guy, especcially this one :http://matingmarket.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/men-who-need-foreign-women-are-1-losers-or-2-control-freaks/

just ignorant....seems like has travelled, but only within the "western" world.

Post: #14

Good sentiment, but impossible in practice. With the overwhelming number of thirsty betas, white-knights, and male cockblockers, this strategy simply doesn't make sense. The odds that you will benefit from a "passing forward" are infinitesimal. You will simply be one voice screaming in a vast wilderness.

It's like having a state penitentiary running on the honor system. Today's America is simply the wrong environment to try to pass on this goodwill.

Post: #15

Danger and Play is MikeCF's blog? wow I was wondering who the writer of that blog was for a while now.

Post: #16

I think I pay the pussy forward. I never want a girl to regret banging me so I always make her feel good for making the decision, even if I don't want to see her again.

This is probably what separates the "asshole" players from the "nice guy" players

Post: #17

I can't see it.

It's one thing to be part of a community, and help guys who you've never met learn the game, and offer what advice you can about improving their own skills. It's quite another to try, and become someones boaster when your not their wingman. I prefer to know that I when I get a bang, it's because of my own skills and nothing else.

Post: #18

(02-02-2012 05:09 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Good sentiment, but impossible in practice. With the overwhelming number of thirsty betas, white-knights, and male cockblockers, this strategy simply doesn't make sense. The odds that you will benefit from a "passing forward" are infinitesimal. You will simply be one voice screaming in a vast wilderness.

It's like having a state penitentiary running on the honor system. Today's America is simply the wrong environment to try to pass on this goodwill.

Sure, if that's all you care about then yeah it's unlikely to benefit you. I still like the idea as an act of good will toward your fellow man, sort of like punishing cockblockers which I support wholeheartedly. Your individual efforts to improve female behavior may just be a drop in the bucket, but I like the satisfaction of knowing that I'm doing my part to make the world a better place.

Post: #19

(02-02-2012 05:35 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  Sure, if that's all you care about then yeah it's unlikely to benefit you. I still like the idea as an act of good will toward your fellow man, sort of like punishing cockblockers which I support wholeheartedly. Your individual efforts to improve female behavior may just be a drop in the bucket, but I like the satisfaction of knowing that I'm doing my part to make the world a better place.

Don't get me wrong, I do plenty to: check women's behavior, circulate ideas about female misbehavior, school betas, slam cockblockers and white-knights. I just don't pass on girls to complete strangers. We all do our part, this just isn't my contribution.

I have finite game "juice" in the tank. I don't waste it on helping people that I'm 99.9 percent sure wouldn't do the same for me or one of the guys in my social circle. Instead, I use it to secure a new girl or re-capture that original girl some time in the future (it has happened).

Post: #20

(02-02-2012 05:52 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 05:35 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  Sure, if that's all you care about then yeah it's unlikely to benefit you. I still like the idea as an act of good will toward your fellow man, sort of like punishing cockblockers which I support wholeheartedly. Your individual efforts to improve female behavior may just be a drop in the bucket, but I like the satisfaction of knowing that I'm doing my part to make the world a better place.

Don't get me wrong, I do plenty to: check women's behavior, circulate ideas about female misbehavior, school betas, slam cockblockers and white-knights. I just don't pass on girls to complete strangers. We all do our part, this just isn't my contribution.

I have finite game "juice" in the tank. I don't waste it on helping people that I'm 99.9 percent sure wouldn't do the same for me or one of the guys in my social circle. Instead, I use it to secure a new girl or re-capture that original girl some time in the future (it has happened).

Yeah, that's completely fair. I wouldn't fault anybody for not going out of their way to do something like this. I think there are circumstances where you can "pass a girl forward" with minimal effort, like the guy in the OP who told the girl he cancelled the date on that he did it because it's a turn-off when a girl says she won't sleep with a guy on the first date. It probably took all of 20 seconds extra to include that in the text message instead of just cancelling without giving a reason.

Going out of your way to make a girl feel good about being pumped and dumped by buying her breakfast or whatever, though? Fuck that. (as a side note, I actually don't mind going for breakfast after a ONS sometimes but I do it because it's what I want to do, not as a random act of kindness toward the next dude who bones her.)

Post: #21

1. This strategy can't actually work, for reasons already outlined. There are too many betas (and even a few alphas) who will succumb to oneitis at one time or another.

That, and there is basic biology to deal with. With few exceptions, men generally don't like to pass their women around, and most women would prefer the company of one high quality man to being passed around by several. Men are too competitive to support a system like this-we've evolved to be that way.

Polygamy has always been historically VASTLY more common than the reverse, polyandry (many men sharing one woman) across human history in pretty much every society we've established.

This is not a coincidence.

2. The blogger behind this idea can't even stand most of the guys on this forum, as he explains here:

Quote:Men who need foreign women are 1) losers or 2) control freaks.

If you have to date foreign women to get what you want, you’re a freak and should seek counseling.

Most Westernized women are all pretty much the same...They’ve all been socialized in pretty much the same way. So to say that somehow non-American women are different is just silly. Western women around the world are all pretty much the same. This has been shown to me, time and again, when I’ve dated Brazilians, French girls, Australians, South Africans, Scottish girls, Israeli girls, Canadians, Mexicans, Russians, you name it. Also, I’ve traveled to London and Dublin and have dated women there — not just Brits and Irish but Polish girls, Australian girls, etc.

They’re all the same. Some are nice, some are bitches, some are cute, some are ugly, some are smart, some are dumb. They’re all different, and in their differences they’re all the same.

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...If a guy is successfully banging chicks from his own country, he doesn’t disparage them. Why would he? He’s being rewarded by interacting with them.

So if a guy is disparaging the women around him, he’s not getting laid. Simple as that. By any of ‘em, or by very few. This means he’s got no game.

...There is one other type of man who feels he has to go outside his own culture to find more demure women, even if he’s currently banging them at home. This guy is even worse than the previous guy. He’s a controlling psychopath, to put it bluntly...

...Women are pretty much the same wherever I have found them. In my experience, foreign women were, if anything, more demanding and bitchier than American women, but overall no great difference. If you find yourself having to travel long distances to find “good ones,” chances are that it’s you who is the problem, not the women.

This guy basically thinks that everyone on this forum is a loser or a psychopath.
Honestly, given some of the shaming language, if I didn't know better I'd almost suspect he was a woman.

In a best case scenario he's just a white knight of the Hank Moody ilk (decent with women, but still a mangina at heart). In a worst case, he is just a loudmouthed beta/mangina of the "male feminist" variety.

Either way, he knows jack shit.

Post: #22

(02-02-2012 01:32 PM)MiXX Wrote:  No alpha male would ever do this! Why? Because alphas are selfish assholes, and that's all they need to fuck women every other day.

That's like saying all rich people are stingy.

I know lots of guys who worked for their money, but are the first ones to buy a round or pick up a check.

Women aren't that hard for me to get.

I'll hand off women to my friends. "No big thing."

Not every player has the mentality of a guy on Wall Street, always looking for some "edge" and willing to obsess over every percentage point.

Post: #23

Quote:In my experience, foreign women were, if anything, more demanding and bitchier than American women, but overall no great difference.

Post: #24

This is a thread that illustrates a lot with what is wrong with men.

Unless you see an immediate reward to "passing it forward," guys won't do it.

That turns you into a stingy person.

My game is based on being magnanimous.

People who go out with my observe, "It's like we take over the bar."

The ability to fill up a space comes from abundance of spirit, overflow, if you will.

In the end, it enhances my life, too. Win-win.

Post: #25

The only time I feel this is possible if it's with one of your buddies. If I'm out with my friends and I'm not getting anywhere with a girl I will do what I can to talk one of my bros up. They do the same for me so it works out well. I would never go out of my way to help some random guy who would cock block me at the drop of a hat though.